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That the bigger picture is THE supporters club and not the battle with the current wasters in charge.

 

TBF theres not a great deal that they will achieve with their current adverserial approach to that lot, but they could achieve great things albeit for the future by concentrating on the building of a great supporters club.

 

I know there is a lot od raw feelings about this, I just think a supporters club is a great idea and it could be in danger of being scuppered by too much concentration on things that cant be changed, no matter how bad they are.

 

And aye, buying / renting a pub if ones available near to the ground to get the ball rolling would be a canny start. I would like them to have a meeting or get discussions going on how we start the process.

 

Whether its right or wrong, anyone can see that there are reasonable fans out there who as yet can not identify with the supporters club.

 

Im not great with words but just feel they are in danger of missing a golden opportunity due to this one issue.

 

Maybe if Peaspud starts a thread on here about what the supporters want from NUSC or how they think they can help, any suggestions etc, he may get some good ideas, new members and help.

 

Who says a bit of good pr cant get some donations in the door, a property on low rental. Who Knows.

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So hold on Im lost?

 

On one hand you're saying that we have a membership thats not worth a light (ie 1000+ in 6 months) yet at the same time you advocate that we buy or at best rent a pub so we can all get together for a beer? :icon_lol:

 

We have that now in the fact we can use the Irish Club whenever we want, at the same time maybe in a couple of years time we may adopt a bigger or what some could class more mainstream bar, the likes of the Strawberry are supporters of the club and have offered their services etc.

 

Back in the old old days there was a social club I believe that was part of the supporters club, no doubt LM or Rob :icon_lol: can inform on that one, Id be willing to bet though that it wasnt owned by them but merely used.

 

At the moment the SC is barely past the crawling stage, we've still got the walking before we get to even a light jog.

 

We do however do the things that a proper supporters club should do but frankly the main thing that any supporter club should be responsible for is ensuring those running the football club do so with the best interests at heart. Man U, Liverpool they are all doing the same as us, highlighting issues and trying to force change. Yet look at where their respective teams are, how I would love to be in their shoes yet they are still protesting and more than us frankly.

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So hold on Im lost?

 

On one hand you're saying that we have a membership thats not worth a light (ie 1000+ in 6 months) yet at the same time you advocate that we buy or at best rent a pub so we can all get together for a beer? :icon_lol:

 

We have that now in the fact we can use the Irish Club whenever we want, at the same time maybe in a couple of years time we may adopt a bigger or what some could class more mainstream bar, the likes of the Strawberry are supporters of the club and have offered their services etc.

 

Back in the old old days there was a social club I believe that was part of the supporters club, no doubt LM or Rob :icon_lol: can inform on that one, Id be willing to bet though that it wasnt owned by them but merely used.

 

At the moment the SC is barely past the crawling stage, we've still got the walking before we get to even a light jog.

 

We do however do the things that a proper supporters club should do but frankly the main thing that any supporter club should be responsible for is ensuring those running the football club do so with the best interests at heart. Man U, Liverpool they are all doing the same as us, highlighting issues and trying to force change. Yet look at where their respective teams are, how I would love to be in their shoes yet they are still protesting and more than us frankly.

 

I think this is the crux of where we differ.

 

I Think the main purpose should be to build a club for supporters not to try and be well meaning vigilantes.

 

Whoever runs the club there will always be issues of the day that need addressing.

 

And I know things cant happen overnight, but if there was a supporters club selling drinks, pies, merchandise, etc I would be happy to attend and line their pockets with my hard earned cash.

 

Have you had a good read through the Arsenal one?

 

What about the idea of a thread for suggestions for developing the sc? (Maybe even having a members area on the website for a forum to discuss this type of discussion)

 

Apart from the matter of stewarding, i dont know what "We do however do the things that a proper supporters club should do" means.

 

Whens the next meeting anyway.

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Buy a pub? Fucking hell :icon_lol:

 

Threads were started both on here and N-O when NUSC was first set up to gauge what opinion was amongst fans IIRC. Unsurprisingly at the time a lot of sentiment was anti-Ashley and that's the banner issue. In my opinion it should remain so until things at the club start to change.

 

What gets me is the amount of people who bitch that the NUSC doesn't represent their views but are unwilling to sign up and put in the effort to try and get their voice heard. It's not as if NUSC is this impenetrable organisation that's closed at the very top - it's got a very small number of members currently and at the last meeting at the Irish Centre they were practically begging people to join the committee. What more do people want?

 

As far as i'm concerned you've got no right what so ever to moan about NUSC if you're not going to put in the leg work. They're doing a bloody admirable job at quizzing those people who take our money and flog us a substandard product week in, week out. If you don't like it fine but don't bitch about them not representing your views if you're unwilling to do anything about it.

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Buy a pub? Fucking hell :icon_lol:

 

Threads were started both on here and N-O when NUSC was first set up to gauge what opinion was amongst fans IIRC. Unsurprisingly at the time a lot of sentiment was anti-Ashley and that's the banner issue. In my opinion it should remain so until things at the club start to change.

 

What gets me is the amount of people who bitch that the NUSC doesn't represent their views but are unwilling to sign up and put in the effort to try and get their voice heard. It's not as if NUSC is this impenetrable organisation that's closed at the very top - it's got a very small number of members currently and at the last meeting at the Irish Centre they were practically begging people to join the committee. What more do people want?

 

As far as i'm concerned you've got no right what so ever to moan about NUSC if you're not going to put in the leg work. They're doing a bloody admirable job at quizzing those people who take our money and flog us a substandard product week in, week out. If you don't like it fine but don't bitch about them not representing your views if you're unwilling to do anything about it.

 

Other than join ..... Done

Volunteer to help ....... Done

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Have you had a good read through the Arsenal one?

 

What about the idea of a thread for suggestions for developing the sc? (Maybe even having a members area on the website for a forum to discuss this type of discussion)

 

Apart from the matter of stewarding, i dont know what "We do however do the things that a proper supporters club should do" means.

 

Whens the next meeting anyway.

 

I have to admit I havent, Ive literally not had a minute so will probably do so on the train tomorrow but I will have a neb at them.

 

There will be a members area on the site, again its just down to time constraints and the fact that I think the current site is shit, it looks ok but frankly its unworkable and wastes a lot of space so that is being redesigned first, the members bits will slot into that. There is however a number of email addresses for members (and for that matter non members) to raise concerns, issues and ideas. They should always be the first port of call for now.

 

There is going to be a meeting to discuss the Supporters Trust stuff in the next couple of weeks which I think we will probably announce following tonights committee meeting, I'll know more when I get back from there.

 

As for the other things, we are organising social nights, we represent the fans when ex players die ie we send flowers, condolences etc on behalf of NUFC fans, we take up matters with the club, stewarding being one, the VAT decrease being another, selling off of the ticket office and additional costs of calling to purchase tickets. All of these things are taken up but I would argue that it does need a group to push the football club (no matter which club you are) when things arent going well.

 

The NUSC cannot take credit for everything positive that happens at the club thats for sure but the recent turn in events has got a hell of a lot to do with the role of the SC and the pushing on issues. You have to ask where we would be if there hadnt been someone questioning them and pushing for answers. The fact that even after last weeks meeting they asked us to be involved in future communications means that they themselves see some value in it.

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Have you had a good read through the Arsenal one?

 

What about the idea of a thread for suggestions for developing the sc? (Maybe even having a members area on the website for a forum to discuss this type of discussion)

 

Apart from the matter of stewarding, i dont know what "We do however do the things that a proper supporters club should do" means.

 

Whens the next meeting anyway.

 

I have to admit I havent, Ive literally not had a minute so will probably do so on the train tomorrow but I will have a neb at them.

 

There will be a members area on the site, again its just down to time constraints and the fact that I think the current site is shit, it looks ok but frankly its unworkable and wastes a lot of space so that is being redesigned first, the members bits will slot into that. There is however a number of email addresses for members (and for that matter non members) to raise concerns, issues and ideas. They should always be the first port of call for now.

 

There is going to be a meeting to discuss the Supporters Trust stuff in the next couple of weeks which I think we will probably announce following tonights committee meeting, I'll know more when I get back from there.

 

As for the other things, we are organising social nights, we represent the fans when ex players die ie we send flowers, condolences etc on behalf of NUFC fans, we take up matters with the club, stewarding being one, the VAT decrease being another, selling off of the ticket office and additional costs of calling to purchase tickets. All of these things are taken up but I would argue that it does need a group to push the football club (no matter which club you are) when things arent going well.

 

The NUSC cannot take credit for everything positive that happens at the club thats for sure but the recent turn in events has got a hell of a lot to do with the role of the SC and the pushing on issues. You have to ask where we would be if there hadnt been someone questioning them and pushing for answers. The fact that even after last weeks meeting they asked us to be involved in future communications means that they themselves see some value in it.

 

Should maybe put someone forward to do a piece with the local rags to get across the "other face of nusc". Think you have established your crime fighting credentials and now need to promote the other stuff. All these journos are crying out for PR.

 

And with regard to the Arsenal thing, slap a laptop on the table during the meeting and have a ganders with the rst of the committee. :icon_lol:

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