The men we hold accountable

[Craig 6321]

Ashley isn't (and never has been IMO) a good businessman. Only thing he has got right was to float his company at the right moment.

 

However for a billionaire to lose over half his wealth inside 18 months is tragic.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

However for a billionaire to lose over half his wealth inside 18 months is tragic.

Well, it would be if it was anyone else.

[Holden McGroin 5048]

I fucking hate Michael Owen. With a passion.

[acrossthepond 711]

I'm going to throw Willie McKay and JFK out there too. For all I hate Owen, I don't hold him accountable for the decline of the club. I do hold him accountable for being a useless waster who trousered our money and gave us fuck all, but that's a different story.

 

McKay has basically been a parasite on this club for years and the amount of dross we've been peddled by him and deals we've done to satisfy him doesn't bear thinking about. Of course you blame the administration for allowing it, but I point the finger at him too. And JFK helped to make us a laughingstock and helped to send us down. Literally any one of the managers who talked about wanting to manage NUFC after KK left could've kept us up. We had people like Zico, Fatih Terim, etc. coming out and saying they wanted the job - and instead we got him.

[ChezGiven 0]

Ashley isn't (and never has been IMO) a good businessman. Only thing he has got right was to float his company at the right moment.

 

However for a billionaire to lose over half his wealth inside 18 months is tragic.

 

Didnt the FTSE 100 lose half its value in the same period though? Abramovich's losses were 4 times the size of Ashley's total wealth too, or something like that.

 

To have an IPO at 300p of a retail business built from scratch is a massive achievement in itself tbf. How he then handled the float and his subsequent short positions against the stock shows a ruthless and shrewd man. He's a cunt too, which is the final piece in the profile of a 'good businessman'. A ruthless, shrewd, cunt is basically what you are looking for.

 

Most of us would prefer a benefactor, not a businessman.

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Owen?

 

Shouldn't you be blaming the men who got Owen in? The same men who spent supposedly our entire Northern Rock sponsorship money on the one player?

 

We all know he came here because he more or less had to.

 

Yes he didn't appear to care for the club but at least he did the business on the pitch fairly often.

[Christmas Tree 4003]

Ashley isn't (and never has been IMO) a good businessman. Only thing he has got right was to float his company at the right moment.

 

However for a billionaire to lose over half his wealth inside 18 months is tragic.

 

Didnt the FTSE 100 lose half its value in the same period though? Abramovich's losses were 4 times the size of Ashley's total wealth too, or something like that.

 

To have an IPO at 300p of a retail business built from scratch is a massive achievement in itself tbf. How he then handled the float and his subsequent short positions against the stock shows a ruthless and shrewd man. He's a cunt too, which is the final piece in the profile of a 'good businessman'. A ruthless, shrewd, cunt is basically what you are looking for.

 

Most of us would prefer a benefactor, not a businessman.

 

A very good assesment and another Lord Kirkham IMO.

 

I have no problem being run by a very succesful cunt of a businessman but he does need to be "hands on".

[LeazesMag 0]

1. Mike Ashley

2. Derek Llambias

3. Chris Mort

4. Graeme Souness

5. Kieron Dyer

6. Celestine Babayaro

7. Michael Owen

8. Jermaine Jenas

9. Dean Saunders

10. Mark Viduka

[LeazesMag 0]

Owen?

 

Shouldn't you be blaming the men who got Owen in? The same men who spent supposedly our entire Northern Rock sponsorship money on the one player?

 

We all know he came here because he more or less had to.

 

Yes he didn't appear to care for the club but at least he did the business on the pitch fairly often.

 

gave us our only decent team for the best part of 50 years.

 

aye right.

 

Edited April 8, 2010 by LeazesMag

[sammynb 2933]

Willie McKay

 

Wasn't Douggy somehow involved in that little deal?

And what was the name of the "management" firm they allowed to set up an office at SJP?

Paul Stretford? Weren't they our unofficial scouts at one stage?

[Park Life 71]

Ashley isn't (and never has been IMO) a good businessman. Only thing he has got right was to float his company at the right moment.

 

However for a billionaire to lose over half his wealth inside 18 months is tragic.

 

Didnt the FTSE 100 lose half its value in the same period though? Abramovich's losses were 4 times the size of Ashley's total wealth too, or something like that.

 

To have an IPO at 300p of a retail business built from scratch is a massive achievement in itself tbf. How he then handled the float and his subsequent short positions against the stock shows a ruthless and shrewd man. He's a cunt too, which is the final piece in the profile of a 'good businessman'. A ruthless, shrewd, cunt is basically what you are looking for.

 

Most of us would prefer a benefactor, not a businessman.

 

Roman went from 12.8 billion to just over 5 billion. If he'd have listened to me he'd have been alright. This is his declared wealth mind. It is commonly assumed his real wealth is double that.

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Owen?

 

Shouldn't you be blaming the men who got Owen in? The same men who spent supposedly our entire Northern Rock sponsorship money on the one player?

 

We all know he came here because he more or less had to.

 

Yes he didn't appear to care for the club but at least he did the business on the pitch fairly often.

 

gave us our only decent team for the best part of 50 years.

 

aye right.

 

And that little 'fact' has what to do with my point exactly? 

 

Souness didn't give us our only decent team for the best part of 50 years, by the way.

[LeazesMag 0]

Owen?

 

Shouldn't you be blaming the men who got Owen in? The same men who spent supposedly our entire Northern Rock sponsorship money on the one player?

 

We all know he came here because he more or less had to.

 

Yes he didn't appear to care for the club but at least he did the business on the pitch fairly often.

 

gave us our only decent team for the best part of 50 years.

 

aye right.

 

And that little 'fact' has what to do with my point exactly? 

 

Souness didn't give us our only decent team for the best part of 50 years, by the way.

 

you said "men".

 

Specify who you mean exactly.

 

Are you aware Alan Shearer played a big part in persuading him by the way ?

[Phil 6]

1 Souness

2 Fred (04-07)

3 Fat Sam

4 Mort

5 Llabias

6 Ashley

7 Shola

[Park Life 71]

1 Souness

2 Fred (04-07)

3 Fat Sam

4 Mort

5 Llabias

6 Ashley

7 Shola

 

[Guest Barrack Road]

1 Souness

2 Fred (04-07)

3 Fat Sam

4 Mort

5 Llabias

6 Ashley

7 Shola

 

Poor Shola - He could score a hattrick in the Cup Final against the mackems and he'd still be no more popular than Warren Barton.

 

9,278 - his testimonial crowd

[Monroe Transfer 0]

I thought everyone still liked Mort.

[LeazesMag 0]

I thought everyone still liked Mort.

 

said from day 1 he was Ashleys puppet

[Craig 6321]

Ashley isn't (and never has been IMO) a good businessman. Only thing he has got right was to float his company at the right moment.

 

However for a billionaire to lose over half his wealth inside 18 months is tragic.

 

Didnt the FTSE 100 lose half its value in the same period though? Abramovich's losses were 4 times the size of Ashley's total wealth too, or something like that.

 

To have an IPO at 300p of a retail business built from scratch is a massive achievement in itself tbf. How he then handled the float and his subsequent short positions against the stock shows a ruthless and shrewd man. He's a cunt too, which is the final piece in the profile of a 'good businessman'. A ruthless, shrewd, cunt is basically what you are looking for.

 

Most of us would prefer a benefactor, not a businessman.

 

I was under the impression that in terms of percentage of wealth, he lost more than others in in his industry. Abramovich's holdings are a lot more volatile, wouldn't you say?

[peasepud 59]

1 Souness

2 Fred (04-07)

3 Fat Sam

4 Mort

5 Llabias

6 Ashley

7 Shola

 

So lets get this right, the bloke who gave us SBR and ran us while we were in the Champions league is 4 places ahead of the bloke who has sytematically ripped the club apart, made us a laughing stock, lied to the fans, press and managers sold some of our best players then had us relegated while making profits in the transfer windows.

 

At the same time the chairman who presided over us during the slightly better part of Ashleys reign and brought in dealings with the fans etc is more at fault than the current greasy worm who wouldnt know how to deal with fans if he had to.

 

Oh and a manager who was here years ago and just happened to be shite is the worst of all?

 

Im guessing you wrote all those names down on bits of paper and threw them in the air to make that list, either that or you mis read it as a "worst tache" competition.

[TheGreatNUFCSwindle 0]

Ashley

Lambias

Wise

Kinnear

Souness

Allardyce

Marcellino

Alan Oliver

Newcastle-online

Christmas Tree

[TheMoog 0]

Ashley

Lambias

Wise

Kinnear

Souness

Allardyce

Marcellino

Alan Oliver

Newcastle-online

Christmas Tree

 

I like this one

[Phil 6]

1 Souness ripped the team appart in an undignified way.

2 Fred (04-07) sacked SBR and hired Souness.

3 Fat Sam losing ugly, cheers

4 Mort good with the press, but ultimately allowed the wage bill to spiral.

5 Llabias called Keegans bluff despite his history, very naive and let Given go without lining up a swap.

6 Ashley took a gamble on relegation by not spending and rather than saying he'd correct it he put the club up for sale.

7 Shola I can't stand lazy players and strola is as lazy as they come. Although everytime he comes on I do get sarcastically say "here comes cavalry"

 

So lets get this right, the bloke who gave us SBR and ran us while we were in the Champions league is 4 places ahead of the bloke who has sytematically ripped the club apart, made us a laughing stock, lied to the fans, press and managers sold some of our best players then had us relegated while making profits in the transfer windows.

 

At the same time the chairman who presided over us during the slightly better part of Ashleys reign and brought in dealings with the fans etc is more at fault than the current greasy worm who wouldnt know how to deal with fans if he had to.

 

Oh and a manager who was here years ago and just happened to be shite is the worst of all?

 

Im guessing you wrote all those names down on bits of paper and threw them in the air to make that list, either that or you mis read it as a "worst tache" competition.

 

 

I've added an extra line in bold above for you.... are you going to grace the thread with your order?

 

 

As for the laughable attempt to say Fred should get praise for giving us SBR, it wasn't exactly rocket science hiring him was it? Now if he wasn't from the North East with a affinty for the club and a long successful carrer behind him maybe it would deserve praise.

 

The order is largely because I don't think getting relegated was as bad as sacking SBR and bringing in Souness. You speak about the player being sold etc, but i didn't like any of them, they were either over rated, over paid, injury prone or French.

[Craig 6321]

1 Souness ripped the team appart in an undignified way.You mean like Ashley has done with the club?

2 Fred (04-07) sacked SBR and hired Souness.Well that accounts for 30 days of the period you're talking about - what about the other 3 years?

3 Fat Sam losing ugly, cheersNot pretty football admittedly but was the previous regime's choice. Seem to remember he was doing rather well up until November but people tend to remember time after that....

4 Mort good with the press, but ultimately allowed the wage bill to spiral.Ultimately?? When was this? And why did Ashley allow him if he did? The bloke runs Freshfields FFS, not some sleazy casino

5 Llabias called Keegans bluff despite his history, very naive and let Given go without lining up a swap.First I've heard of 'Trotter' being in charge of player recruitment - perhaps Keegan had more reason to be pissed of than first thought?

6 Ashley took a gamble on relegation by not spending and rather than saying he'd correct it he put the club up for sale.and then took us off sale and then back on and then back off - refused to listen to anyone, appointed Shearer and said it was the best thing he'd ever done and then never spoke to him again after 2 days after the last day of the season - no fucking respect for anything. Utter cunt of a man

7 Shola I can't stand lazy players and strola is as lazy as they come. Although everytime he comes on I do get sarcastically say "here comes cavalry"If being a 'lazy player' is justification for appearing in here, you'd better start putting some others in before Ameobi. A certain French winger springs instantly to mind.

[Ayatollah Hermione 12891]

1 Souness

2 Fred (04-07)

3 Fat Sam

4 Mort

5 Llabias

6 Ashley

7 Shola

 

Poor Shola - He could score a hattrick in the Cup Final against the mackems and he'd still be no more popular than Warren Barton.

 

9,278 - his testimonial crowd

 

They could probably play it at the training ground.