sammynb 2929 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I'd love either of them here - not going to happen though! As shit as they are, Rangers are a better prospect.... 63104[/snapback] How exactly are they a better prospect?? 63123[/snapback] I think they have a more realistic chance of qualifying for Europe.... 63128[/snapback] So does TNS in Wales but that doesn't make them a better prospect. If Shearer and the fat man have already agreed on the step up next season, then forget Milburn's record and Shearer should have the balls to take the job NOW. If he doesn't then he's not ready next season either. 63136[/snapback] Comparing TNS with Rangers is hardly realistic now is it? 63141[/snapback] Yes and no. You made the point about Europe , I'm just pointing out that even TNS has that chance. Craig, we still have a chance via the league if the team is sorted now. Wait much longer and we will be trying to beat the stat Souness set last season, lowest finish in the Premier league for Newcastle ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6302 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6302 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I'd love either of them here - not going to happen though! As shit as they are, Rangers are a better prospect.... 63104[/snapback] How exactly are they a better prospect?? 63123[/snapback] I think they have a more realistic chance of qualifying for Europe.... 63128[/snapback] So does TNS in Wales but that doesn't make them a better prospect. If Shearer and the fat man have already agreed on the step up next season, then forget Milburn's record and Shearer should have the balls to take the job NOW. If he doesn't then he's not ready next season either. 63136[/snapback] Comparing TNS with Rangers is hardly realistic now is it? 63141[/snapback] Yes and no. You made the point about Europe , I'm just pointing out that even TNS has that chance. 63149[/snapback] They have no chance of appoint Hitzfeld though - Rangers do and I think it's greater than ours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I'd love either of them here - not going to happen though! As shit as they are, Rangers are a better prospect.... 63104[/snapback] How exactly are they a better prospect?? 63123[/snapback] I think they have a more realistic chance of qualifying for Europe.... 63128[/snapback] So does TNS in Wales but that doesn't make them a better prospect. If Shearer and the fat man have already agreed on the step up next season, then forget Milburn's record and Shearer should have the balls to take the job NOW. If he doesn't then he's not ready next season either. 63136[/snapback] Comparing TNS with Rangers is hardly realistic now is it? 63141[/snapback] Yes and no. You made the point about Europe , I'm just pointing out that even TNS has that chance. 63149[/snapback] They have no chance of appoint Hitzfeld though - Rangers do and I think it's greater than ours... 63153[/snapback] I think we would definitely have the edge over Rangers when it comes to attracting people like Le Guen, even if Rangers were doing well. We've got a number of fantastic players and there will always be more money to spend for the manager here than at Rangers. That and the fact that we play in the much-hyped Premier League and Rangers don't means we're not in such a bad position. The question is whether that fat excuse of a chairman will even consider appointing someone who doesn't speak perfect Geordie. Not that it means anything because I can't see it happening anyway, but I remember Shepherd saying that he would consider resigning if his appointment of Souness didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8870 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] And has this reduced the wage bill (taking also Moore into account, though he might be paid via a health insurance)? I think that Souness signed some cracking players, partly on positions that needed improving, but becoming repetitive, I don't signing players makes a good manager. With notable exclusions I rather had the old squad and a decent manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] I don't think Parker is an awesome buy and neither is Emre. Both look to be decent enough players but I think you're getting carried away about them. Luque wasn't required and the 3 you imply are crap, are indeed, crap. What we needed when Souness arrived ( in my opinion ) was a replacement for Shearer to play as a partner for Bellamy, and probably an entire new back four to be rebuilt in a proper order. By being unable to manage 2 players he forced massive expenditure in area's that didn't require strengthening, leaving us short elsewhere. He also decided to rebuild the midfield, which I believe should have been done after the defence was sorted. BTW Owen isn't a replacement for Bellamy, he's a replcement for Shearer except Shearer hasn't gone yet. Owen is an out and out goalscorer, just like Shearer, he's not a 'supporting' striker, like Bellamy. So, as good as Owen is, having booted out Bellamy, the signing of Owen was not the correct one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I think we would definitely have the edge over Rangers when it comes to attracting people like Le Guen, even if Rangers were doing well. We've got a number of fantastic players and there will always be more money to spend for the manager here than at Rangers. That and the fact that we play in the much-hyped Premier League and Rangers don't means we're not in such a bad position. The question is whether that fat excuse of a chairman will even consider appointing someone who doesn't speak perfect Geordie. Not that it means anything because I can't see it happening anyway, but I remember Shepherd saying that he would consider resigning if his appointment of Souness didn't work out. 63160[/snapback] Like I can understand people's reservations about us getting someone like Hitzfield or even Le Guen but what about Deschaump's? He knows the premier league, he did really well at Monaco until they decided to sell all their stars (or not purchase Morientes) and not replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4855 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] I don't think Parker is an awesome buy and neither is Emre. Both look to be decent enough players but I think you're getting carried away about them. Luque wasn't required and the 3 you imply are crap, are indeed, crap. What we needed when Souness arrived ( in my opinion ) was a replacement for Shearer to play as a partner for Bellamy, and probably an entire new back four to be rebuilt in a proper order. By being unable to manage 2 players he forced massive expenditure in area's that didn't require strengthening, leaving us short elsewhere. He also decided to rebuild the midfield, which I believe should have been done after the defence was sorted. BTW Owen isn't a replacement for Bellamy, he's a replcement for Shearer except Shearer hasn't gone yet. Owen is an out and out goalscorer, just like Shearer, he's not a 'supporting' striker, like Bellamy. So, as good as Owen is, having booted out Bellamy, the signing of Owen was not the correct one. 63163[/snapback] I agree 100% with that. He has ruined a promising team ala Dogleash. we are going to have to be very careful who we appoint next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] And has this reduced the wage bill (taking also Moore into account, though he might be paid via a health insurance)? I think that Souness signed some cracking players, partly on positions that needed improving, but becoming repetitive, I don't signing players makes a good manager. With notable exclusions I rather had the old squad and a decent manager... 63161[/snapback] Yes, I agree. On paper we do have better players in some areas, for example in midfield in Parker and Emre, compared to the likes of Jeeenarse. But we have a worse team now. In fact, Souness has reduced the team to shite in a very short space of time. It's amazing really, what this man has managed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] And has this reduced the wage bill (taking also Moore into account, though he might be paid via a health insurance)? I think that Souness signed some cracking players, partly on positions that needed improving, but becoming repetitive, I don't signing players makes a good manager. With notable exclusions I rather had the old squad and a decent manager... 63161[/snapback] Yes, I agree. On paper we do have better players in some areas, for example in midfield in Parker and Emre, compared to the likes of Jeeenarse. But we have a worse team now. In fact, Souness has reduced the team to shite in a very short space of time. It's amazing really, what this man has managed to do. 63167[/snapback] He's the only manager that could gather a better set of players than what he started with and transform them into serious relegation material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] I don't think Parker is an awesome buy and neither is Emre. Both look to be decent enough players but I think you're getting carried away about them. Luque wasn't required and the 3 you imply are crap, are indeed, crap. What we needed when Souness arrived ( in my opinion ) was a replacement for Shearer to play as a partner for Bellamy, and probably an entire new back four to be rebuilt in a proper order. By being unable to manage 2 players he forced massive expenditure in area's that didn't require strengthening, leaving us short elsewhere. He also decided to rebuild the midfield, which I believe should have been done after the defence was sorted. BTW Owen isn't a replacement for Bellamy, he's a replcement for Shearer except Shearer hasn't gone yet. Owen is an out and out goalscorer, just like Shearer, he's not a 'supporting' striker, like Bellamy. So, as good as Owen is, having booted out Bellamy, the signing of Owen was not the correct one. 63163[/snapback] I agree 100% with that. He has ruined a promising team ala Dogleash. we are going to have to be very careful who we appoint next. 63165[/snapback] Yes, very similar to what Dalglish managed. It will be very interesting to see who is appointed next, I just hope that FS gets it right this time. He doesn't have a good track record of appointing managers, having only really appointed the right man once. (Robson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8870 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] And has this reduced the wage bill (taking also Moore into account, though he might be paid via a health insurance)? I think that Souness signed some cracking players, partly on positions that needed improving, but becoming repetitive, I don't signing players makes a good manager. With notable exclusions I rather had the old squad and a decent manager... 63161[/snapback] Yes, I agree. On paper we do have better players in some areas, for example in midfield in Parker and Emre, compared to the likes of Jeeenarse. But we have a worse team now. In fact, Souness has reduced the team to shite in a very short space of time. It's amazing really, what this man has managed to do. 63167[/snapback] He's the only manager that could gather a better set of players than what he started with and transform them into serious relegation material. 63168[/snapback] But, but, he saved us from relegation last season ... said Dougie. And apparently he is the one to save us from relegation this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 It's not just in the size of the squad, although it's obvious that Bellamy, Robert and Hughes should not have been sold. These 3 players would make a positive difference imo. I also believe Souness has spent money on players we didn't need, the money would have been better spent on other parts of the team. 63139[/snapback] Which ones? Solano? (He was never replaced in the first place) Owen? (Bellamy was never going to play for the club again as long as Shepherd/Souness/Shearer were involved) Luque? (Robert said he was going - not that I think he was a direct replacement) Parker - Awesome buy Emre - Ditto Boumsong - we needed a CB - bought the wrong man I agree! Baba - ditto Faye - utter stupidity 63150[/snapback] And has this reduced the wage bill (taking also Moore into account, though he might be paid via a health insurance)? I think that Souness signed some cracking players, partly on positions that needed improving, but becoming repetitive, I don't signing players makes a good manager. With notable exclusions I rather had the old squad and a decent manager... 63161[/snapback] Yes, I agree. On paper we do have better players in some areas, for example in midfield in Parker and Emre, compared to the likes of Jeeenarse. But we have a worse team now. In fact, Souness has reduced the team to shite in a very short space of time. It's amazing really, what this man has managed to do. 63167[/snapback] He's the only manager that could gather a better set of players than what he started with and transform them into serious relegation material. 63168[/snapback] But, but, he saved us from relegation last season ... said Dougie. And apparently he is the one to save us from relegation this season... 63171[/snapback] If he manages to play enough matches Owen will save us from relegation. He's the get out of jail card, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 CUNTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 9 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 That's the final straw for me. McLeish to Portsmouth. Souness to Rangers. Hitzfeld/Le Guen/Burley to Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 If we can't get the manager we want now give it to Roeder until the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The man has got to go, as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) get souness out you fat bastad'!! Edited November 30, 2005 by Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6302 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Saunders to manage us against Villa then? (You are aware that'll happen if we sack him now, right? What's more, he'll probably still be in charge against Arsenal! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 If we can't get the manager we want now give it to Roeder until the summer. 63186[/snapback] the blokes got a dodgy ticker, you couldnt wish our team on him, he'd peg it after one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 If we can't get the manager we want now give it to Roeder until the summer. 63186[/snapback] the blokes got a dodgy ticker, you couldnt wish our team on him, he'd peg it after one game. 63198[/snapback] Well if he did chances are we'd finally see one of our players actually run down the sideline, instead of cutting inside as Souness seems to want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Souness virtually admitted in the post match interview that the players weren't listening to him and he has to question his methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Saunders to manage us against Villa then? (You are aware that'll happen if we sack him now, right? What's more, he'll probably still be in charge against Arsenal! ) 63196[/snapback] you mean you still want him to stay? We've given him his chance. He's had enough time and money to turn us around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads 0 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Saunders to manage us against Villa then? (You are aware that'll happen if we sack him now, right? What's more, he'll probably still be in charge against Arsenal! ) 63196[/snapback] you mean you still want him to stay? We've given him his chance. He's had enough time and money to turn us around. 63207[/snapback] Exactly how much 'turning around' did the club need, like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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