The Fish 9221 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Well, we're not playing well, we're not getting results and the others are catching up. Even though we're the division's top goal scorers, with the most wins, we're the form side and the chasing pack are 6pts and a shit ton of goal difference behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 And we're getting the leagues top scorer back after a few weeks out injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Aye but they've got Cattermole coming back from injury remember. His inevitable first game back red card will be a turning point for their season, just you wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30762 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The league's that tight at the bottom a little run of form can transform your survival chances but they've only won one game out of the last 7 and you have to go back to the middle of December for their last home win in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 4-0 against Palace away from home is an undeniable self belief moment though. Be interesting to see what happens, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Aye but they've got Cattermole coming back from injury remember. His inevitable first game back red card will be a turning point for their season, just you wait! He only turns up against us and we're not there this year. Honestly even if they do stay up will it really matter? They'll be an absolute mess yet again next season. I read somewhere there are serious issues at that club in regards to the players attitude. I've heard off a mate who knows a lad who's mates with Pickford (I know, very large handful of salt needed here) that he's just been chinning pints pretty much the whole time he has been out injured, it wouldn't be entirely surprising if there was truth to it as I've heard similar about Cattermole, Bardsley, etc in the past. The culture gets shrugged off by mackems because they manage to hang onto their league status but the thing is if that sort of attitude is prevalent it is a good reason for why they never kick on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4003 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 This is what came out with Di Canio - he wanted to change the culture but the players rebelled and went whinging to the paedo protector Byrne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30762 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Aye, Sunderland lad I worked with reckons it was the same story with Poyet too. Although "Catts" has supposedly settled down a bit the culture remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Aye both those things sound probable. Mackems never have any of it but there's obviously some sort of problem as they way the club is basically in a year round relegation scrap a decade after promotion is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30762 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The Secret Footballer has made specifc reference to it on more than one occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The Secret Footballer has made specifc reference to it on more than one occasion Aye that's where I think I remember it from. The mackems rile against it and reckon he's full of shite but honestly I don't see a reason for him to lie about it. If he was wanting to lie for publicity about something like that surely he'd pick a more notable club, instead when he said it most seemed to think 'aye makes sense' rather than generating massive publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30762 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Aye that's where I think I remember it from. The mackems rile against it and reckon he's full of shite but honestly I don't see a reason for him to lie about it. If he was wanting to lie for publicity about something like that surely he'd pick a more notable club, instead when he said it most seemed to think 'aye makes sense' rather than generating massive publicity. I think he actually said that that's how they get away with it, i.e. them being a club which isn't in the media glare / is a bit small time, which no doubt endeared him to the fanbase even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Aye it's like a red rag to a bull that. Very true mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30762 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Of course, it being true is what makes it so annoying for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12896 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Think I've mentioned this before but a lad I went to Uni with, went to school with Cattermole and told me he was a right little radgepacket then and was basically turned into a pro footballer by moving away to Wigan and getting out of Boro and leaving his knacker mates. No surprise that, as soon as he was back in the North East, he picked up where he left off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9221 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4-0 against Palace away from home is an undeniable self belief moment though. Be interesting to see what happens, either way. That win was, by all accounts very flattering to Sunderland. Mate was at the game and said, while Palace were shite, Sunderland seemed to score with every 2nd shot, while Palace's shots were meek or wayward. It wasn't that Sunderland dominated the game or that they played particularly well, they just took the few chances they had. That's certainly backed up by the stats. He's not a Palace fan, so he had no dog in that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 That win was, by all accounts very flattering to Sunderland. Mate was at the game and said, while Palace were shite, Sunderland seemed to score with every 2nd shot, while Palace's shots were meek or wayward. It wasn't that Sunderland dominated the game or that they played particularly well, they just took the few chances they had. That's certainly backed up by the stats. He's not a Palace fan, so he had no dog in that fight. Aye but it'll be a galvanising moment nonetheless. If every second shot goes in, it'll bolster self belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9221 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Aye but it'll be a galvanising moment nonetheless. If every second shot goes in, it'll bolster self belief. They'll take a lot of confidence from it, no doubt, and to be honest, I'm not as confident they'll go down as I was earlier in the season. Not because they're any good, but simply because they're not as adrift as they should be given their performances. The rest of the bottom aren't taking their opportunities to break away from the bottom side. There are 3 relegation spots to avoid, where often there's a side adrift in 20th. They're still shite and still hugely reliant on one player maintaining fitness and form. Moyes will make them a better outfit, and if the other teams continue to stumble and fumble their lines they may well get to their winnable games at the end of April/beginning of May in touching distance of safety. However, Defoe has been involved in at least 66% of their goals (16/24) and should he miss 2-3 weeks through injury they're fucked. They host an out of form Southampton who have lost 3 on the bounce, fail to beat them and I reckon the mackems will lurch from bold confidence to the same crippling self doubt that had them calling for Moyes' head. They had 10 League games without a win at the start of the season and while their form is improving, they've still only amassed 5 league wins all season, none against top half sides. After Southampton, they've 3 difficult games, fail to win today and those 3 games look much harder. Edited February 11, 2017 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think you're right, and fully agree that the difference this year versus previous years on such form is that there is just so much shit in the PL. One of the reasons in fact that I'm quite optimistic about our chances of midtable once we go up. But that aside, I expect Sunderland will get away with it. They've done this so many times it's borderline crazy to think they won't escape again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27516 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Gabbiadini scores against Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9221 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Apparently the 2nd one was a treat. https://twitter.com/Extra10Football/status/830445786479677444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Sunderland are absolutely fucking shite like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2795 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Moyes: The big thing for me, though, is to create a team spirit so they look after each other on the pitch. I want them to build relationships off it, too – and the psychology behind going somewhere so cold is that when we come back we’ll think Sunderland is Dubai. If Donald Trump wants to come and see the boys, he’s very welcome, maybe we’ll go to Trump Tower, see if we can get anywhere near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26793 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 There speaks a managerial visionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 SAFC official New York City piss up 2017 tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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