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Newcastle v Norwich City: 22nd or 23rd Sept

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Not a very good performance. I said at the final whistle that I'm still not sure we have had a good one yet this year. The good news is we have enough points thus far to build on.

 

I thought Pardew got it wrong again, but before I really comment on tactics I have to re-watch the match. The feed kept coming in and out and wasn't the best quality- so I must admit there were things I missed.

 

One big gripe I will point out though- I can't believe we go to a 4-5-1 at home against Norwich with 15 minutes to go. I know we are up 1-0, but why let them come at you? Does Obertan really offer anything? Bring on Ameobi at that point and give us an outlet. We didn't keep the ball at all in the last 15, or so it felt....

 

Tiote is a real fucking ass sometimes. I would not start him next game if I were manager after his little cameo. Dribbling around the box up 1-0, taking out a player like that....these things are unacceptable and IMO fine him a weeks wages and sit his ass. Too bad the modern day player has too big of an ego for that.

 

Obertan really is gash. Useless at this level. Keeping Routledge would have been a better option.

 

Also, set pieces (offensively) are a huge weakness. That includes penalties. They weren't good last year and it looks like we haven't got anyone to take them unless Raylor is out there.

 

European squad should play Wednesday and then let's get at Reading for another 3 points.

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We are always 'lucky' but on the other hand they were lucky that -

 

Cisse missed a penalty.

Cisse missed a very good headed chance.

Ba didn't take a better touch which allowed Barnett to catch him up when through.

Cabaye skied a couple of good chances.

Taylor headed just wide.

Obertan chose to shoot when putting it across the box would have led to a tap in.

 

Etc, etc... As much as we weren't brilliant we still created enough chances to win this comfortably.

 

Is the correct answer.

 

Even playing well below par we were a much more potent team than them, we will give someone a howking soon.

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Exactly. We were no better in the first 11 of last season as I remember it.

 

3 tight points won. Good work.

 

Aye, steady as she goes...we've had a lot worse weeks, thats for sure. Point away in the league, euro draw away, and 3 points at home. Liverpool built a...erm..."legend" on weeks like that :D

 

Man Utd away Wedsnesday...fixture congestion can be a good thing, maybe Tiote will start, give him an hour. He'll be like a chained pitbull on Saturday.

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Quite concerned what we focus on in training as we seem to have no coherent game plan at the moment. We're just relying on a moment of inspiration from one of our players.

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All in all, another 3 points gained.

Not the best performance in the world and not the worst but we did create chances and didn't concede, even though we were our own worst enemy at times,giving the ball away too cheaply.

 

Norwich came for a fight and a fight they gave us, even though we could and should have weakened that fight just before half time, yet we didn't but we still slugged it out.

 

We will play 10 times better than that and lose and also play worse than that and win...that's football.

The referee was crap by the way.

 

We had a side out today that appeared to be getting to grips with each other and stuttering, yet when we get into a flow with all out injuries subsiding, I think we will see the real Newcastle United.

 

After all, we are only 5 games in and barely out of the starting blocks, yet we have lost one game away to the potential 2013 prem champions in Chelsea in their own backyard.

 

What you tend to find with teams like Norwich is, they always come to the big grounds and fight to the death and denying us time on the ball and seem to add another 50% to their overall game as far as effort is concerned...Plus the fact that Chris Hughton will have had a massive extra word in their ears to make sure they done him proud against his old club.

 

The plus points are.

Harper isn't finished by a long way and was our hero today.

Santon looks class and did a very good job at the back as well as going forward, except that he tried to go that one step further all the time which actually made him look (overall) wasteful.

 

Perch continues to impress even when shifted around. His no none-sense displays help to keep us steady when the shit hits the fan.

Ba looks like he has a re-newed zest and always looks dangerous.

 

Ben Arfa is outstanding and a joy to watch......my man of the match.

 

Jonas put in a great shift as usual.

 

most of the players did a decent job without being exactly on top of their game.

 

The worrying parts today were Cisse, Tiote and Anita. Cisse just looks dejected and down on his luck and it shows but hopefully he will get it right soon.

 

Tiote could have cost us the game when he came on with his reckless challenges, plus his show boating on the edge of our area and in midfield where he decided to think he's too good to be dispossessed, lucky to stay on and an impact sub he isn't...take note Pards.

 

Anita actually had a fairly decent game but just seemed to struggle in midfield and at right back against Norwich's physicality and aerial ability, which is why Perch is our my versatile iceman.

 

1-0 and I'm happy.

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The performances are in a way a cause for concern, the ones that stick out are the worse ones for me. Bolton at home last season when we looked flat as fuck until Ben Arfa's wonder goal, when we were going for potentially a champions league spot. And the first half at Everton the other night, Pardew was right, thats up there among the worst weve seen since promotion. Thing is, if we score the pen then we may well have got 2 or 3 more today and we'd have been saying that the season starts here etc.Another way of looking at it is Manu have been utilising talent like Ben Arfa to win tight games with one piece of brilliance for 2 decades and Fergie is hailed as a footballing genius. Apparetly they were poor again today, but won by the odd goal in 3. Not a lot changes, we'll see if we can get near to their level of consistancy ourselves later in the season.

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Did anyone think Cisse was going to score that penalty? Never looked likely or even possible. Jonas was acting captain, he should've sorted that and given the ball to Ba or Ben Arfa.

 

Either way we got the win but continue to lack consistency. We have bright spells that last 5-6 minutes sandwiched between 10-minute spells of utter dross. Injuries, yes, but I think the increased game load is taking its toll as well.

 

On the plus side Harper looked solid and Ba, Ben Arfa, Jonas, Taylor and Williamson all had good games. Anita is a bit dubious at right-back for me. Plays in good balls but offers little in terms of defence.

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We were poor against Everton in the first half but overall that now looks like a bloody good result so I'm hoping that and the small number of positive bits today bode well.

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I'll take that. Not great but it's 3 points. I fucking hate Sunday games by the way. Why Cisse took the pen? Fuck knows. Can understand when were 5-0 up and wanting to get him a goal but not 1-0. Obertan is the French Wayne Fereday. Utter shite and fucking clueless.

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First decent first half performance of the season. Unfortunately the second half didn't match. Not that surprising from the time when Obertan came on like. He is without doubt the most gutless player I've ever seen. He has nothing positive going for him at all as far as I can see and bringing him on for an obviously short on confidence Cisse is sheer lunacy. Pardew made a great decision with Perch and Anita in the first half but the substitution defied belief. Ben Arfa will never be a striker and Squidward will never be a footballer as long as I have a hole in my arse.

The game obviously should have been won by half time (well it was as it happens) and we could have fucked it up by the end but a wins a win and as has already been said, performance wise we were no better this time last season. Hopefully we can crack on the same way!

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I'll take that. Not great but it's 3 points. I fucking hate Sunday games by the way. Why Cisse took the pen? Fuck knows. Can understand when were 5-0 up and wanting to get him a goal but not 1-0. Obertan is the French Wayne Fereday. Utter shite and fucking clueless.

Harsh on Fereday!

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Were you there?

 

If you were you will realise that 50,000 or so Geordies biting nails, groaning and whistling for the final whistle, usually indicates a very uncomfortable end to the game.

 

Guessing you were too busy burning effigies of Maggie.

 

you're guessing wrong; i was in my seat in the Milburn Paddock, Leazes End; perhaps the acoustics are different where you are, but i don't recognise the scenario you claim marked the closing part of the game.

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True we could pick up but we are looking very poor throughout the team. Nothing seems to be close to clicking into place at the moment.

 

complete and utter fucking horseshit

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This

 

so what training routine have you in mind for Pardew & the coaches then?

 

i'm sure they're agog to hear what tips you have for them; play Santon in the hole, with Elliot in centre mid, Gosling in goal & Ferguson as a lone striker no doubt

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My player ratings FWIW

 

Harper - 9 - May key saves when required, and also commanded the box well making the right decisions when one needed to be made. HIs best game for us for some time, could not have done any more apart from pop up with an assist.

Santon - 7 - Was solid and did well to push up the pitch particularly int he fisrt half. Defensively was ok.

Williamson - 7.5 - Worked hard and made some key interceptions/header as well as getting a crucial block just off the line. Our best defender in this match, though still looks very limited with the ball at his feet,

Taylor - 6 - Failed to assert his authority in this match. As the senior of our centre back pairing more is expected of him,

Perch - 6 - As a fullback he was pretty poor, as a closing midfielder a lot better. Pardew was worried about playing Anita in defense because of his height.

Jonas - 7 - Covered plenty of ground, was solid in possession but didn't do a lot in the final third (only Ben Arfa and Ba did).

Cabaye - 5.5 - Wasteful with chances an with the ball in general. Some good tackles/reads but seemed to be trying for the spectaculor far too much. Not a good choice when you're struggling to get the simple things done coherently.

Anita - 6.5 - Looked quite decent in wide options, though doesn't make the greatest options in the atacking third. Was a better option at fullback than Perch.

HBA - 8.5 - Had their beating everytime on the dribble. Worked some excellent passes. Faded in the second, but the whole team did and as a result he didn't see a lot of the ball.

Ba - 7.5 - Good game took his goal very well. Had another decent chance or two but did his job and put the ball in the back of the net.

Cisse - 5 - Looks out of sorts at the moment. Was renowned as a hard worker when he arrived but now doesn't seem to be doing the little things like closing down etc anywhere near as much. As a result he seems off the pace of the game and doesn't get invovled anywhere near enough.

 

Of the subs TIote bears the biggest mentions as he was atrociously bad in terms of his application. Actually looks to be relatively sharp given how long he's been absent but made continual abysmal decisions both in possession and defensively. He's not te kind of player you really want to bring on for a cameo as he'll be wanting to make an immediate impact and will be outside the first few minutes of the match where there seems to be an amnesty on silly challenges.

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Williamson was awesome tbf to him, won pretty much everything and put in alot of blocks. You'd find it pretty hard to find a better player on the pitch than him today

 

Agree he was excellent. The 7.5 was more top do with the limitation in his ability with the ball, than his performance in defense.

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I didn't mind Guttierez giving the ball to cisse for the pen to try and help him get off the mark. Maybe if he'd tried to head it in he would have come closer to scoring it ;) . It does piss me off that Pardew hasn't picked a penalty taker though. He should have told the team in no uncertain terms who his main man is, then who his second and third choice is. The argument between ben arfa and ba for the spurs pen was unseemly and should have led to the order of seniority being sorted once and for all. To witness 3 of them arguing over it for a second time and the captain having to convince them of what he wants is no good at all.

 

Before the game we saw the line-up on twitter and discussed if perch would be in the middle and Anita rb. Couldnt fathom why they werent set up like that. It didnt last and after hoolahanlalan was gifted a header following a free cross from their left did we change it. Wonder if Pardoo was trying to keep Anita happy that he has him in mind for playing in the middle or if he really thought it might work better. There was a few people mentioned the question on here before kick off, so everyone else can see what's best when those two are starting.

 

Tiotes long pass out to the right looked sublime. Not on MOTD2 though? Up there with ben arfas slide rule for the goal.

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Aye, steady as she goes...we've had a lot worse weeks, thats for sure. Point away in the league, euro draw away, and 3 points at home. Liverpool built a...erm..."legend" on weeks like that :D

 

Man Utd away Wedsnesday...fixture congestion can be a good thing, maybe Tiote will start, give him an hour. He'll be like a chained pitbull on Saturday.

 

Not sure why there seems to be such a deflated feeling about the start we've had, dropping 2 points to Villa was disappointing, but otherwise the only other teams to take points off us are top of the league and 3rd.

 

With the injury troubles that are more traditional for Newcastle I think we've coped well enough.

 

Perhaps its just that left wing whiner CT has stuffed sunny disposition CT into a sack which is bringing the mood down.

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Not sure why there seems to be such a deflated feeling about the start we've had, dropping 2 points to Villa was disappointing, but otherwise the only other teams to take points off us are top of the league and 3rd.

 

With the injury troubles that are more traditional for Newcastle I think we've coped well enough.

 

Perhaps its just that left wing whiner CT has stuffed sunny disposition CT into a sack which is bringing the mood down.

 

Being weened off the old Prozac by his doctor I've heard...manic depressive in real life apparently.... ;)

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I can only think with Anita and Perch that Pardew wanted Perch's extra height in defense against a team like Norwich.

 

We have played poorly but results wise we're doing ok. We know we have the talent here so if everything clicks we've positioned ourselves well to achieve our goal for the season - injuries and the thin squad aren't helping. The poor feeling from the transfer window in many ways has come across into the season. If we manage to pull out a good performance and solid win I think we'll be able to put it behind us - until January at least.

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