Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 I like Burnham but middle England wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, a gobby scouser. Yup, further left than Red Ed (and always looks like he's wearing mascara). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 in all the years I listed Labour would have won comfortably without a single scotish seat. You're simply ignoring history. Britain has never and will never be a one party state. Howdy man, you were following Thatcher, up against Hague and Howard. But for the crash you would still be in power. It's going to take a calamitous chain of events for Labour to get back in. It wouldn't surprise me at all if UKIP didn't push Labour into third place at the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17782 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Howdy man, you were following Thatcher, up against Hague and Howard. But for the crash you would still be in power. It's going to take a calamitous chain of events for Labour to get back in. It wouldn't surprise me at all if UKIP didn't push Labour into third place at the next election. 'You' only just scraped a majority man. UKip are as much a problem for the conservatives, if not more, than Labour. I think they are an irrelevance now though once they lose the referendum. Labour's problem this time, other than Scotland, was the shift from lib dems straight to Tory which I admit I didn't forsee. Anyway, it's far from predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 'You' only just scraped a majority man. UKip are as much a problem for the conservatives, if not more, than Labour. I think they are an irrelevance now though once they lose the referendum. Labour's problem this time, other than Scotland, was the shift from lib dems straight to Tory which I admit I didn't forsee. Anyway, it's far from predictable. Well I think you are wrong about UKIP. In the North they have become the 2nd party. There's a hell of a lot of working class people switching to them. Blair was a once in a lifetime politician. The unions won't let that happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34464 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Can anyone still honestly say that they've been missing CT around here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17782 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Well I think you are wrong about UKIP. In the North they have become the 2nd party. There's a hell of a lot of working class people switching to them. Blair was a once in a lifetime politician. The unions won't let that happen again. Well see, I still think they took more support from the Tories though (and beat them in 2 by elections). Which of I'm right and they are a temporary phenomenon is good news for the conservatives. Anyway I'm going into political hibernation for 4 years. Was quite funny how people were avoiding me at work on Friday as if I was going to go postal or something. But with the football as well I think its maybe not that implausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17782 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Can anyone still honestly say that they've been missing CT around here? I think he's been surprisingly measured if I'm honest. Inside he's obviously bursting and his cock is probably red raw by now but he's nowhere near as bad as last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Can anyone still honestly say that they've been missing CT around here? Just one from my inbox...... "Welcome back, the forums have missed your posts. Why be such a mean boy [emoji26] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34464 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Reading out your fanmail ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Well see, I still think they took more support from the Tories though (and beat them in 2 by elections). Which of I'm right and they are a temporary phenomenon is good news for the conservatives. Anyway I'm going into political hibernation for 4 years. Was quite funny how people were avoiding me at work on Friday as if I was going to go postal or something. But with the football as well I think its maybe not that implausible. Don't go into hibernation ffs. It's going to be an extremely interesting period in politics, possibly the most interesting....... In my lifetime. You should be here arguing your case and pointing out what you don't agree with. Personally I think the Conservatives will reign back on a lot of the tougher stuff they said they were going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 I think he's been surprisingly measured if I'm honest. Inside he's obviously bursting and his cock is probably red raw by now but he's nowhere near as bad as last time. Yes, I'm being sensitive to the general (misguided) view on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 That said if the result went the other way Im sure 90% on here wouldn't show the same restraint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17782 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Don't go into hibernation ffs. It's going to be an extremely interesting period in politics, possibly the most interesting....... In my lifetime. You should be here arguing your case and pointing out what you don't agree with. Personally I think the Conservatives will reign back on a lot of the tougher stuff they said they were going to do. Cheers, I think. It is an interesting period in politics, to be sure. But since last election I have got 2 kids, changed to a more stressful job which doesn't let me post, and am currently renovating a house. Life gets in the way and I've decided to jettison the things that make me most unhappy and maximize the stuff that makes me most happy. So that's footy and politics gone. . Will always love reading this place though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Let's put an ex lawyer with no education experience in charge of education. Idiotic, although surely she can't be as horrific as Gove? Who is now in charge of Justice. Any other profession and he'd be on the dole. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/teachers-speak-out-over-nicky-morgans-reappointment-as-education-secretary-10239170.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 9998 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Mad, staring eyes that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Cheers, I think. It is an interesting period in politics, to be sure. But since last election I have got 2 kids, You've been busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Let's put an ex lawyer with no education experience in charge of education. Idiotic, although surely she can't be as horrific as Gove? Who is now in charge of Justice. Any other profession and he'd be on the dole. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/teachers-speak-out-over-nicky-morgans-reappointment-as-education-secretary-10239170.html As an ex lawyer I think she's probably got a hell of a lot of experience in education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38767 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Reading out your fanmail ffs.Notes to self don't count do they? I'm with you on this Liz bird- time to give the split-arses a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34464 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Frank Skinner reckons the electorate has taken an anti-lips stance putting Cameron and Sturgeon in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38767 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 The more lips the better etc etc. Can't really be arsed tonight- still fecked from nightshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 UKIP are definitely dead and buried. And wake up CT, the Tories were the 2nd party in all three Newcastle seats. Even though the tactic of picking out individual gaffes was extremely unfair, UKIP will never be able to shake the fact that the vast majority of them are just massive idiots/racists/xenophobes, and for every reasonable policy they announce, they had two other insane ones in the locker. The only way UKIP could possibly have any influence is if PR was introduced, and ironically it never will be because of this election - the previous graphic shows quite clearly that PR only rewards extremists - if we had PR today we would be looking at a Con-UKIP coalition, which is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 UKIP are definitely dead and buried. And wake up CT, the Tories were the 2nd party in all three Newcastle seats. Even though the tactic of picking out individual gaffes was extremely unfair, UKIP will never be able to shake the fact that the vast majority of them are just massive idiots/racists/xenophobes, and for every reasonable policy they announce, they had two other insane ones in the locker. The only way UKIP could possibly have any influence is if PR was introduced, and ironically it never will be because of this election - the previous graphic shows quite clearly that PR only rewards extremists - if we had PR today we would be looking at a Con-UKIP coalition, which is insane. Quite bizarre you say UKIP are dead and buried following the growth in support over the last few years. They will get quite a few seats 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Reckon Mako might be right on this one. UKIP's raison d'etre is this referendum on Europe. If the Tories have it and we vote out, why would anyone except the extremists vote for UKIP again? They'd have achieved their objective. If we vote to stay in, then they might rumble on - but they'd be entirely without legitimacy, as the country, as a majority, will have rejected their view. Support will fall away as people voting for them currently realise that an escape from Europe isn't going to happen, and that voting for other parties will better influence their lives. The only scenario I can see for them hanging around is if they start distancing themselves from the Europe question and putting a real effort into talking about their other policies in the run up to it while they still have people's ears. Another good move by Cameron to be honest, he'll kill UKIP altogether with this referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17782 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Quite bizarre you say UKIP are dead and buried following the growth in support over the last few years. They will get quite a few seats 2020. They really won't like. This was their best chance and they won ONE seat. They don't have the political infrastructure to better this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Quite bizarre you say UKIP are dead and buried following the growth in support over the last few years. They will get quite a few seats 2020. Eh? What would UKIP even be standing for in 2020? Do you not think there will have been an EU referendum before then? That is after all the only reason the party exists in the first place, if it's not just a vehicle for the racist protest vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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