Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Ken said: It sounds so grim that we won't lose a match. i'm not saying that. your lot have your own problems and won't have it all your own way. i do expect us to lose though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: i'm not saying that. your lot have your own problems and won't have it all your own way. i do expect us to lose though. So not a complete domination but 4-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Should be a good run chase to watch here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 i'd be disappointed if it's another whitewash, ken. i expect us to win one game, perhaps at Adelaide, maybe draw another, but i don't think we're going to be close to winning the series. obviously i hope our boys prove me wrong. one thing we've got going for us is we don't fear your lot anymore. the aussie aura is long gone. when was it you officially lost it? 2009, wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i'd be disappointed if it's another whitewash, ken. i expect us to win one game, perhaps at Adelaide, maybe draw another, but i don't think we're going to be close to winning the series. obviously i hope our boys prove me wrong. one thing we've got going for us is we don't fear your lot anymore. the aussie aura is long gone. when was it you officially lost it? 2009, wasn't it? I don't expect it to be Gloomy. It will be closer than you expect. Trust me. History is history. No need to go over it. Leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 interesting hearing nasser's interview with bayliss, who said he wants root to play at 3. whether root is up for that against the aussies is another matter. who else is there to play 3 out of that squad though? surely not ballance or vince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I think it will be Vince. But I agree with Bayliss that it should be Root. Seemed clear from that interview (although I missed the end of it) that Wood would have been in the squad had he proved he could stay fit. I think without him they've just dismissed any thought of a fast bowler and just looked to stick to our strengths. Whether or not our strengths can outweigh the conditions remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: loved that series down under when chris tremlett came out of nowhere and scared the shit out of the aussie attack. he was exactly the kind of brute of a fast bowler we need now. shame he was made of glass Totally forgot about Tremlett, sure he played in the last series down there but he was completely finished and was generating hardly anything above 80mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30506 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tooj said: Totally forgot about Tremlett, sure he played in the last series down there but he was completely finished and was generating hardly anything above 80mph. Aye, ludicrous decision to take him last time round. Boyd Rankin went as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tooj said: Totally forgot about Tremlett, sure he played in the last series down there but he was completely finished and was generating hardly anything above 80mph. yeah, he was a shadow of his former self last time. it was a bit of a punt, int he same i way i suppose taking wood, finn or plunkett might be this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30506 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Shame when you think Finn broke through two Ashes series ago and looked like he was going to be a star and still hasn't become an England regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 he's a confidence player and you have to say he hasn't been managed brilliantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 i still think taking a punt on a bowler with express pace is a gamble worth taking when you look at the balance of the bowling attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30506 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: i still think taking a punt on a bowler with express pace is a gamble worth taking when you look at the balance of the bowling attack Yeah, I think we definitely could do with something different. I suspect Broad might not be the bowler he was. It's all angled in a la Defrietas now, rather than being able to swing it away. Anderson will struggle too I think. (Re: Finn I meant two tours ago as well rather than series which makes it even worse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 One for @Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Stokes could potentially do a jail term for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 After watching that he should tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9264 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 10 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: i still think taking a punt on a bowler with express pace is a gamble worth taking when you look at the balance of the bowling attack But that was the problem last time when they took Finn, Tremlett and Rankin - taking a punt on the fact that they could bowl fast and generate bounce. That worked well. Pick players who are playing well. Not sure about Ball or Overton, as neither will play unless one of Broad, Anderson or Woakes can't play due to injury, and I would rather have another spinner than watch Ball again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I wouldn't reshape the attack entirely, but failing to pick one bowler who can get it up to 90mph is foolish, even if it is a wildcard selection. Finn, we know, can be expensive and blows hot and cold but when he gets it right he's a wicket taker and you'd think he'd be suited to playing over there. He took 8 wickets in a county match recently. plunkett is in the ODI squad so he must be doing something right. I don't know, I hope I'm wrong obviously but I doubt the Aussies will fear this bowling attack in their backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'd also add it horses for courses. You pick extra spinners in your squad when you play in the subcontinent- not just your form players. Just as you look to include genuine fast bowlers when you tour Oz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: Stokes could potentially do a jail term for this What a moron. Obviously we don't know what was said or how he was provoked but that doesn't look good. He looks to be the aggressor throughout the exchange, swinging at anyone near him. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30506 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Aye, that looks fucking terrible like. Totally changes my view as I think that's bang out of order irrespective of the provocation. People have been killed by a punch like that last one that sparks the kid out. He's canny lucky that's the only one that connected properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19862 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 the other kids aren't even defending themselves by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 He cracks the other lad too just as the video cuts out. The rumour is the lad swung a bottle at one of his own mates and Stokes was passing by and stepped in to stop it. Which is all good and well if he didn't then follow the lad up the street for 20yds before knocking him out. That removes any potential self defence claim I'd imagine. If he gets a criminal record for ABH that would prevent him for getting a VISA for any Australia tours wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30506 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I wouldn't have thought so, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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