Meenzer 14055 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 GOAL DMEMBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Wouldn't we miss him in the centre of the park? Or would you play Tiote & Anita?No we wouldn't miss him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8990 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 No we wouldn't miss him at all. Â I know he's not great, but he's a consistent performer and we've not got another central defensive midfielder with his (admittedly limited) technical ability, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 That tackle by Mitrovic.Southampton's stand-in manager has come out and admitted there was no contact so why did Targett roll around banging his hand on the ground suggesting severe pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 You've not watched much football, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I've just watched MOTD 2 again and as Mitrovic is being booked,in the background you can see Targett fully recovered from his near death experience.As i have pointed out,their stand-in manager has come out and admitted there was no contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tooj 17 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015  I know he's not great, but he's a consistent performer and we've not got another central defensive midfielder with his (admittedly limited) technical ability, do we? Anita and Abeid both have more techincal ability in spades than Colback does. He's a clogger man, when he was at the Mackems he was derided as being that but know we have him people's perceptions have changed for some reason. We can do much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I know he's not great, but he's a consistent performer and we've not got another central defensive midfielder with his (admittedly limited) technical ability, do we?Colback really does seem to divide opinion with our fans. One of my mates text me during the match and said Colback looked lost and another after the game said he was shite. Personally I thought he did (as he does 95% of the time) another solid job. In posession he doesn't try for anything fancy, he just moves the ball on looking for one of the more attacking players to give us the thrust and when we don't have posession he looks to win the ball back. I know it's not very exciting but there's a whole host of top class players who made their career doing very similar things. He's more physical than Anita and does more for us defensively and he's much better on the ball than Tiote. I don't think there should be a need to play two of those three at home in games other than when we play the top four but given it was McClaren's first game, I can understand why he would want to be a bit more cautious. I would hope in most home games we would look to have another attacking player (maybe SDJ or Cabella) and move Geinie slightly deeper so we don't have a big gap between defence and attack the way we ended up on Sunday. But I'd be quite happy to have Colback as the deep lying midfielder in that formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Anita and Abeid both have more techincal ability in spades than Colback does. Â He's a clogger man, when he was at the Mackems he was derided as being that but know we have him people's perceptions have changed for some reason. We can do much better. He's definitely not a Clogger. If he were, what would that make Tiote? And Abeid? Come off it. The lad isn't good enough for premiership football. I could argue against Anita but I've definitely seen occasions where he's had good games and he always looks technically proficient. But Abeid had a couple of alright games when nothing was expected of him and then failed to even reproduce that limited form when he returned from injury. The increase in credit he got from being a reasonably small part of a couple of good results is absolutely incredible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8990 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Anita and Abeid both have more techincal ability in spades than Colback does. Â He's a clogger man, when he was at the Mackems he was derided as being that but know we have him people's perceptions have changed for some reason. We can do much better. Â Even if that's true, we can't play Anita in both positions and Abeid looks like he's out the door. Which leaves us with Tiote and Colback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 4 defenders and Tiote and Colback to hold the fort and we still cannot defend as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8990 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 4 defenders and Tiote and Colback to hold the fort and we still cannot defend as a team. Oh just fuck the fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Â Even if that's true, we can't play Anita in both positions and Abeid looks like he's out the door. Which leaves us with Tiote and Colback. Still doesn't make Colback any more than a clogger either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8990 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Still doesn't make Colback any more than a clogger either. Â Would you go for Lucas Leiva? Looks like Liverpool are letting him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Anita and Abeid both have more techincal ability in spades than Colback does. Â He's a clogger man, when he was at the Mackems he was derided as being that but know we have him people's perceptions have changed for some reason. We can do much better. He's been alright for Newcastle. His passing is usually short but to its target, he's decent and tactically not bad at all. He's like a poor mans David Batty but I'd rather have him than Anita or Abeid as would most match going fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I agree so you are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He's been alright for Newcastle. His passing is usually short but to its target, he's decent and tactically not bad at all. He's like a poor mans David Batty but I'd rather have him than Anita or Abeid as would most match going fans.Our average match going fan laps up players like him, they did it with Alan Smith as an example. Steven Taylor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Our average match going fan laps up players like him, they did it with Alan Smith as an example. Steven Taylor too.He's hardly a fist pumping moron like Taylor or one to go ridiculously over the top into tackles like Smith. He just quietly gets on with his job and consistently puts in a decent performance. He's never going to be a star but he helps others look good (not by being shit himself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26860 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Our average match going fan laps up players like him, they did it with Alan Smith as an example. Steven Taylor too. Do they? Most match going fans, (including myself), that I know thought Smith was fucking atrocious. I thought he was a terrible buy from the minute we bought him for an insane £6M. Taylor's had some good games as well as shit. I'd hardly say they lap him up to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12460 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He's hardly a fist pumping moron like Taylor or one to go ridiculously over the top into tackles like Smith. He just quietly gets on with his job and consistently puts in a decent performance. He's never going to be a star but he helps others look good (not by being shit himself). That's about it tbh, he is a solid enough performer who will always give a 6 or 7 out of 10 type of performance every week no matter how shite those around him play. I've no problem with him, I wouldn't mind at all if he was upgraded but I don't see it as something that needs to be resolved straight away. He is tidy in possession and manages to be a nuisance to the opposition, seems a good professional, was free and I don't imagine he is on massive wages. If we're going to push for top 10 we probably do need to replace players like him as he should be more of a rotational option than a starter in a higher side but we've got more pressing concerns than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8990 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's about it tbh, he is a solid enough performer who will always give a 6 or 7 out of 10 type of performance every week no matter how shite those around him play. I've no problem with him, I wouldn't mind at all if he was upgraded but I don't see it as something that needs to be resolved straight away. He is tidy in possession and manages to be a nuisance to the opposition, seems a good professional, was free and I don't imagine he is on massive wages. If we're going to push for top 10 we probably do need to replace players like him as he should be more of a rotational option than a starter in a higher side but we've got more pressing concerns than him. agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's about it tbh, he is a solid enough performer who will always give a 6 or 7 out of 10 type of performance every week no matter how shite those around him play. I've no problem with him, I wouldn't mind at all if he was upgraded but I don't see it as something that needs to be resolved straight away. He is tidy in possession and manages to be a nuisance to the opposition, seems a good professional, was free and I don't imagine he is on massive wages. If we're going to push for top 10 we probably do need to replace players like him as he should be more of a rotational option than a starter in a higher side but we've got more pressing concerns than him.I think when you look at some of the midfielders playing last season for Palace, Stoke and Swansea, he's good enough for a top ten team but yeah if we want to push further he shouldn't be any more than a squad player. As you say, we have far more pressing concerns than him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2427 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I agree so you are correct  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Our average match going fan laps up players like him, they did it with Alan Smith as an example. Steven Taylor too. Not where I sat they didn't. He keeps the ball reasonably well this lad, Smith didn't do anything reasonably well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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