Newcastle United V Southampton

[Tooj 17]

I agree he didn't yet loads of knackers would love him flying in whilst neglecting the fact that it only turned into a slide tackle due to his horific touch in the first place.

[strawb 3660]

I have posted my views on Colback before, he does offer a 6/7 out of 10 every game, but they are a Colback 6/7 out of 10 not a Cabaye 6/7 out of 10.

 

Would keep him as a squad player.

 

Think we are done regarding player recruitment for now as we seem to be struggling to get rid of any of the squad filler. Might be wrong mind.

[The Fish 9015]

I have posted my views on Colback before, he does offer a 6/7 out of 10 every game, but they are a Colback 6/7 out of 10 not a Cabaye 6/7 out of 10.

 

Would keep him as a squad player.

 

Think we are done regarding player recruitment for now as we seem to be struggling to get rid of any of the squad filler. Might be wrong mind.

 

We might get another Ivan Toney or two, but I'd be surprised if we added more to the 1st team.

[Gemmill 34631]

 

We might get another Ivan Toney or two, but I'd be surprised if we added more to the 1st team.

So racist.

[David Kelly 1117]

I have posted my views on Colback before, he does offer a 6/7 out of 10 every game, but they are a Colback 6/7 out of 10 not a Cabaye 6/7 out of 10.

 

Would keep him as a squad player.

 

Think we are done regarding player recruitment for now as we seem to be struggling to get rid of any of the squad filler. Might be wrong mind.

I don't understand how two players can rate 6 or 7 out of 10 but one have been better than the other. Colback clearly isn't as good a player as Cabaye but if their performances both rate the same then in that game they have been equally as good.

[The Fish 9015]

So racist.

 

Well we're full, innit.

[Gemmill 34631]

I don't understand how two players can rate 6 or 7 out of 10 but one have been better than the other. Colback clearly isn't as good a player as Cabaye but if their performances both rate the same then in that game they have been equally as good.

Can we ban the Fish and DK for the next couple of hours please, I can't cope with the debate that's about to get underway.

[David Kelly 1117]

Can we ban the Fish and DK for the next couple of hours please, I can't cope with the debate that's about to get underway.

[The Fish 9015]

I don't understand how two players can rate 6 or 7 out of 10 but one have been better than the other. Colback clearly isn't as good a player as Cabaye but if their performances both rate the same then in that game they have been equally as good.

 

I think it's a misunderstanding of the "out of 10" system.

 

It doesn't mean this player is performing at 60% of his 100% (I know, but it's just easier). It means this player is performing at 60% of a perfect performance.

[Alex 30462]

I don't understand how two players can rate 6 or 7 out of 10 but one have been better than the other. Colback clearly isn't as good a player as Cabaye but if their performances both rate the same then in that game they have been equally as good.

Suppose one is a more difficult position to play in and be effective there, i.e. an attacking midfielder playing in the hole. DM is an important role but I think it's easier to be effective playing there because, to put it simply, it's easier to be destructive than creative on a football pitch. Obviously with the caveat (just for you Stevie ) that being able to play in the more 'difficult' position doesn't mean you'd be more effective than a less creative player if you played in a more defensive role in midfield.

Edited August 11, 2015 by Alex

[David Kelly 1117]

I think it's a misunderstanding of the "out of 10" system.

 

It doesn't mean this player is performing at 60% of his 100% (I know, but it's just easier). It means this player is performing at 60% of a perfect performance.

So you're saying that strawb is saying that Colback plays to 60% or 70% of his capacity which is less than 60% or 70% of Cabayes capacity? I wouldn't argue with that but it seems to go against the marks out of ten system that the rest of the world uses.

[The Fish 9015]

So you're saying that strawb is saying that Colback plays to 60% or 70% of his capacity which is less than 60% or 70% of Cabayes capacity? I wouldn't argue with that but it seems to go against the marks out of ten system that the rest of the world uses.

that's how I read it.

[Gemmill 34631]

If me and The Fish do an exam and we both get 60 percent, everyone knows I am cleverer than the Fish and nobody can understand how he got the same score as me. All I can think is that I was probably hungover or really ill or I just wasn't that bothered and he had been studying for the best part of a year and had an absolute blinder.

 

Is that sort of what we're talking about here?

[David Kelly 1117]

that's how I read it.

That's fine. I just don't think most people would go with that system.

[David Kelly 1117]

If me and The Fish do an exam and we both get 60 percent, everyone knows I am cleverer than the Fish and nobody can understand how he got the same score as me. All I can think is that I was probably hungover or really ill or I just wasn't that bothered and he had been studying for the best part of a year and had an absolute blinder.

 

Is that sort of what we're talking about here?

I think that would be the usual scoring system. Like if Cabaye played poorly for his ability but Colback played a blinder. Obviously you're Cabaye and Fish is Colback in this scenario. Although Williamson instead of Colback would probably be a better comparisson.

[David Kelly 1117]

Suppose one is a more difficult position to play in and be effective there, i.e. an attacking midfielder playing in the hole. DM is an important role but I think it's easier to be effective playing there because, to put it simply, it's easier to be destructive than creative on a football pitch. Obviously with the caveat (just for you Stevie ) that being able to play in the more 'difficult' position doesn't mean you'd be more effective than a less creative player if you played in a more defensive role in midfield.

But you wouldn't score the player playing poorly in the more difficult role the same as the player who's played well in the easier role would you? Marks out of ten is surely just based on how well someone has done in that particular match?

[Alex 30462]

But you wouldn't score the player playing poorly in the more difficult role the same as the player who's played well in the easier role would you? Marks out of ten is surely just based on how well someone has done in that particular match?

I agree, I just interpreted strawb's comments as that, i.e. a consistent performer is a more difficult role is a more valuable asset.

[Meenzer 14068]

I can't imagine anyone being interested in a pastime revolving around a semi-arbitrary points-giving system.

[Alex 30462]

I can't imagine anyone being interested in a pastime revolving around a semi-arbitrary points-giving system.

[David Kelly 1117]

I agree, I just interpreted strawb's comments as that, i.e. a consistent performer is a more difficult role is a more valuable asset.

Aye that might make sense.

[Monkeys Fist 38836]

What about when they "go out and give 110%"?

 

* "hah, got 'em there, Fist" ...... unziiip.

[The Fish 9015]

If me and The Fish do an exam and we both get 60 percent, everyone knows I am cleverer than the Fish and nobody can understand how he got the same score as me. All I can think is that I was probably hungover or really ill or I just wasn't that bothered and he had been studying for the best part of a year and had an absolute blinder.

 

Is that sort of what we're talking about here?

 

I like it when you flirt with me like this.

 

"Negging", I believe it's called.

[Gemmill 34631]

You were right to hastily delete your first response, but not to replace it with this one.

[The Fish 9015]

You were right to hastily delete your first response, but not to replace it with this one.

^You running back to the computer whenever I post.^

[strawb 3660]

What I mean is Colback's level is below a better player's level. At his level he gives a 6 out of 10, which is acceptable. A better player gives a 6 out of 10 where he actually influences a game, because he is a better player.

 

Yeah this is boring.

 

Colback is bang average and shouldn't be first choice, but he isn't a major problem.