Rayvin 4964 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 who is he asking to do his well wishing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14900 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I just meant in terms of their ideologies. And also dwindling circulations. Have to say mind, I'm surprised the daily mail was kept out... I think Mrs Trump is suing the mail for alleging she used to be a whore. He doesn't get a good press in the mail because of it. Apart from his mate Piers of course, who gets a raging stiffy from being mates with the powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26801 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I think Mrs Trump is suing the mail for alleging she used to be a whore. He doesn't get a good press in the mail because of it. Apart from his mate Piers of course, who gets a raging stiffy from being mates with the powerful. 'Champ'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I think Mrs Trump is suing the mail for alleging she used to be a whore. He doesn't get a good press in the mail because of it. Apart from his mate Piers of course, who gets a raging stiffy from being mates with the powerful. Ahhh yes. That makes total sense actually. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2795 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Â Â He will fume, I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 As a paper that went along with WMD claims that had no evidence and recategorised torture as "enhanced interrogation" you'd think they'd be a bit more.... I don't know... less self righteous. Â Edit: and they also used Snowden as a source, printed the stories from documents he revealed, and then said he should be prosecuted as someone that revealed too much truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14900 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I think it's over for the nyt, and any other media that used to be quaintly printed on paper..... Â https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4006 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 As a paper that went along with WMD claims that had no evidence and recategorised torture as "enhanced interrogation" you'd think they'd be a bit more.... I don't know... less self righteous. Â Edit: and they also used Snowden as a source, printed the stories from documents he revealed, and then said he should be prosecuted as someone that revealed too much truth. I never forget how complicit the BBC were over Orgreave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20146 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I think it's over for the nyt, and any other media that used to be quaintly printed on paper..... Â https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other That article suggests otherwise. Brilliant reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 That article suggests otherwise. Brilliant reporting From last October... Â https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/donald-trump-finds-an-easy-mark-in-urine-mogul-robert-mercer.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20146 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 From last October...  https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/donald-trump-finds-an-easy-mark-in-urine-mogul-robert-mercer.html  They do good, deep reporting too.  The lines from Wigmore in the Guardian piece were extraordinary. Not quite time to sound the death knell for the legacy media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Based on quality maybe, but circulation is another matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14900 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 That article suggests otherwise. Brilliant reporting Thing is the people reading that in the guardian are pretty much marginalised due to what the article is talking about. Liberal media is an echo chamber as much as any other, and they're not setting the agenda now due to how the likes of Mercer and Bannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 They do good, deep reporting too.  The lines from Wigmore in the Guardian piece were extraordinary. Not quite time to sound the death knell for the legacy media.  No doubt, it's an excellent & well researched piece.  Found the angles taken interesting though.  Intercept portraying him as a "mark" who all those he's contributed to have used and abused as a money tap to prop up ill thought out campaigns that normally flounder.  Guardian portray him more as the genius provider of money and knowledge which has led to a global conservative uprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30763 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 He's just announced a 9% / £43b increase in defence spending. Scary stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26801 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 That's quite an increase given that he reckons that they shouldn't be getting involved in international conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26801 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 While cutting international aid and budget for environmental agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30763 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Well, at least he's balancing the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18038 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Still, at least he isn't Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30763 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 One of the main reasons he won tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 A stimulus to the economy if nothing else. Also a statement to the rest of the world. The concern here is that it triggers an arms race. Presumably this is in aid of bolstering the US nuke totals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 A stimulus to the economy if nothing else. Also a statement to the rest of the world. The concern here is that it triggers an arms race. Presumably this is in aid of bolstering the US nuke totals? Â If the US halved their existing military budget it would still be larger than the next 2 closest nations. The next 3 with this additional funding. Â Â The 10 nations after the US combined could not match US spending in total after this increase. Â I can't see any nation seeing any value in chasing their spend. Â China will just keep lending them money until they bankrupt themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Still, at least he isn't Hillary. Â There's a parallel with Labour/Corbyn. Â Â An unpopular choice forced on the parties by a small number of insiders and lost vast swathes of voters as a result. Â Â All the polls showed Sanders would do better against Trump. Â The DNC made a huge cock up. Â Â With Perez getting the DNC chair over the weekend they seem to be doubling down on the error. Â The Obama and Clinton contingent stood him up solely as a response to Ellison, the muslim left winger, because the biggest single funder of the democratic party (Haim Saban) is a 1 issue guy, he bankrolls them on their Israel position. Â He demands strong support on that and would walk if Ellison got in. Â Whether they stick with centrist leaders or shift to the left, the progressive parties are struggling to bring together the splintering factions on either side of the Atlantic. Â Even with the splintering, I can't comprehend what it would take to make more people walk away from Tory/Trump rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 If the US halved their existing military budget it would still be larger than the next 2 closest nations. The next 3 with this additional funding. Â Â The 10 nations after the US combined could not match US spending in total after this increase. Â I can't see any nation seeing any value in chasing their spend. Â China will just keep lending them money until they bankrupt themselves. Â Kinda hope that doesn't happen as we'll just end up with an aggressive, insanely armed state with an interest in upsetting the established order of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Kinda hope that doesn't happen as we'll just end up with an aggressive, insanely armed state with an interest in upsetting the established order of the world.  I'm not sure if Trump's ever said he would cut the military or stop the interventionist policy.  Happy to be corrected, but all I've heard is that he wouldn't keep doing it for free.  "Aid" to Israel basically comes in the form of handing them £3bn of cuttting edge military tech.  $4.5Bn to Afghanistan.  $1.5bn to Egypt etc.  Moving the aid bill to the military and making supposed allies foot the bill would be the smart money saving business decision that Mike Ashley would make.  Whether allies remain allies long when you aren't paying them for digs I can't envisage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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