ewerk 26956 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Diane Abbott is an idiot though. If it weren't for the fact she's a strong Corbynite she wouldn't be anywhere near the shadow cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20214 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 says it all about labour that she's anywhere near the shadow cabinet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4021 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 She has two compelling attributes though - they'd get major abuse from the Id police if they sacked her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 While May avoids any embarrassment within the media by simply refusing to actually campaign at all. https://twitter.com/the_awakend/status/859360692687826945/video/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30908 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 She has two compelling attributes though Wahey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14964 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) Diane Abbott is an idiot though. If it weren't for the fact she's a strong Corbynite she wouldn't be anywhere near the shadow cabinet. She's been annihilated all day for it. Meanwhile when the prime minister literally has no fuckin idea where she is its met with comparative silence. Both guilty of being woefully unprepared for being under the media spotlight. Both treated complelty differently by the media. Abbot cones across like a jumped up back office social worker supervisor type. May seems like the elderly doctor who you dread seeing but there's no one else available Edited May 2, 2017 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30908 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 It'll clear up in a week or two. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I don't understand why Labour are blocking an electoral alliance to maximize chances in Tory marginals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4972 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I suspect they feel they have to be credible in their own right. Maybe they've looked at it and think they can win the seats that they would have to compromise on anyway, but who knows. To be honest, if you concluded that Labour's position here is that they need to preserve themselves rather than win, avoiding an alliance would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4972 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Corbyn's campaigning having a positive effect, or May's switching people off? The problem is, the closer it gets, the more rabid the RW press will become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) The fact is that Labour under Corbyn is a joke and the failure of the party to galvanise strong campaign goals shows they have no clue what they are and who the actually represent (outside the Londonista circle jerk). For someone with supposed lefty credentials it beggers belief that a 2nd refrendum or desire to cancel Brexit is never mentioned by the leadership. Even Starmer is very careful not to rile the unwashed. I have held out for Corby long enough...They can't even do proper costings fffs! The polls have probably closed a tiny bit because of May's EU related gaffs. Edited May 3, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 They can't even do proper costings fffs! Beneath Abbott's police funding gaffes, Labour's numbers make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Increasing the number of police is a Tory election tactic of days gone by. Is rail nationalisation an election promise? Is it in the manifesto? Edited May 3, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Increasing the number of police is a Tory election tactic of days gone by. Is rail nationalisation an election promise? Is it in the manifesto? Sign up, you'll be among the first to find out... http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/manifesto/2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30908 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Beneath Abbott's police funding gaffes, Labour's numbers make sense Just another example of decent policies being totally wasted if you can't articulate them properly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Sign up, you'll be among the first to find out... http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/manifesto/2017 Is that how they are going to win. Garnering e mail addresses by stealth? Joke. It's obvious re-nationalisation of public assests isn't in it or the right wing media would be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Labour aren't interested in winning this election otherwise they would have changed leadership. Fuck head clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6101 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Either Labour will get a shock win or they will get annihilated, Corbyn will have no option but to walk and Labour can set about rebuilding itself for the next election Mark my words *ct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Just another example of decent policies being totally wasted if you can't articulate them properly though. Aye. But as someone pointed out, May can't even remember which town she's in and Boris can't stutter his way to the end of a sentence without a racial slur popping out, so it's not as if they're challenging slick and well drilled incumbents. At least labour have the decent policies going for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Is that how they are going to win. Garnering e mail addresses by stealth? Joke. It's obvious re-nationalisation of public assests isn't in it or the right wing media would be all over it. But Corbyn has pledged it, so they would surely be all over it until the manifesto came out? Railways Another policy where there are parallels with Miliband, but perhaps this time without the caveats. A pledge to return the railways to public ownership was one of Corbyn’s first policy announcements as leader and it is popular with the public. Miliband showed support for it in an interview with LabourList before the 2015 general election, although Labour’s offer last time around focussed on giving state-run companies a place in the bidding process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Aye. But as someone pointed out, May can't even remember which town she's in and Boris can't stutter his way to the end of a sentence without a racial slur popping out, so it's not as if they're challenging slick and well drilled incumbents. At least labout have the decent policies going for them. Most of the policies are MOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) But Corbyn has pledged it, so they would surely be all over it until the manifesto came out? The sheer fact that I'm having to hunt around looking for something more than a 'pledge' tells you everything you need to know. It won't happen. I saw SNCF on London buses last week ffs! Edited May 3, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I don't know what you're complaining about here. None of the parties have manifestos out yet. Everything anyone says is a pledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30908 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Aye. But as someone pointed out, May can't even remember which town she's in and Boris can't stutter his way to the end of a sentence without a racial slur popping out, so it's not as if they're challenging slick and well drilled incumbents. At least labout have the decent policies going for them. I agree. That's the frustrating thing where the government are not just nasty cunts but they're incompetent with it. Yet still the opposition fail to capitalise. There is an undoubted media bias against the opposition but part of that is down to Corbyn's decision not to play their game (or perhaps that's being too kind and it's just an inabiltity to do so). Abbott is quite simply out of her depth in the heat of battle and personifies the wider issue Labour have with getting their message across. Parky's also right about the lack of a message / identity too though. I do agree with that piece someone posted on here recently saying now is the time more than ever not to abandon Labour, given the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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