Alex 30440 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Aye, this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_Me There's a brief description of what happened too. It's worth watching actually. What a bunch of paranoid, crooked fuckers they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 You would think the cost of becoming a scientologist would keep it from the masses enough to prevent it ever become anything major. I'd also like to think as species we have less need to follow such things. But I suspect that's wishful thinking. People always strive for meaning, and I think we have less of that now than we've had at any previous point in our existence. Can we cope with the void, is the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I remember that video as well... it's a fucking weird cult Scientology, but it has its fingers all over the place at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Aye, this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_Me There's a brief description of what happened too. It's worth watching actually. What a bunch of paranoid, crooked fuckers they are. Aye I've got that lined up to watch. Might stick it on tonight after I've watched Westworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 People always strive for meaning, and I think we have less of that now than we've had at any previous point in our existence. Can we cope with the void, is the question? That's all been dealt wiv starting in the 60/70's with Sartre, Camus, Ionescu, Genet etc.. and ending with Beckett about 30 years ago... If I catch myself striving for meaning I punch myself in the bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I'll admit to not being up on my philosophers, I'll have to give it a look. You reckon starting with Sartre then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30440 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Start with the Greeks as most of the others since are just discussing what they said anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I have a book from Slavoj Zizek that I'm working through presently, but he's not really a 'meaning of life' philosopher so much as a political/social one. Anyway, I should read more of what these people say I guess. The Greeks it is. Edited November 2, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I'll admit to not being up on my philosophers, I'll have to give it a look. You reckon starting with Sartre then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_the_Absurd Don't go straight in with Beckett as it is a bit out there although 'Murphy' is light and humorous in parts. Start with Sartre as there is a welcoming field of the familiar. 'The Age of Reason' is a beautiful novel I've read and re-read. The Age of Reason[1] (French: L'âge de raison) is a 1945 novel by Jean-Paul Sartre. It is the first part of the trilogy The Roads to Freedom. The novel, set in the bohemian Paris of the late 1930s, focuses on three days in the life of a philosophy teacher named Mathieu who is seeking money to pay for an abortion for his mistress, Marcelle. Sartre analyses the motives of various characters and their actions and takes into account the perceptions of others to give the reader a comprehensive picture of the main character." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre Age of Reason and The Reprieve and Iron in the Soul' read in that order. Edited November 2, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks for that Parky, I'll start educating myself. Edited November 2, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30440 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 L'Etranger is worth a read. It's a novel rather than a philosophical essay though. Which is probably why I think it's worth reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 L'Etranger is worth a read. It's a novel rather than a philosophical essay though. Which is probably why I think it's worth reading I'll make have to make a list Thanks though, I think it'd be genuinely interesting to explore this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30440 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I have a book from Slavoj Zizek that I'm working through presently, but he's not really a 'meaning of life' philosopher so much as a political/social one. Anyway, I should read more of what these people say I guess. The Greeks it is. I like the cut of his jib but 10 minutes on Youtube is enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yeah he's hard work actually, on the reading front. I keep having to stop to look up terms and so on. I'll get there eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30440 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Tell you what's a good introduction to philosophy if you haven't read it: Sophie's World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I like the cut of his jib but 10 minutes on Youtube is enough for me. Yeah prefer the spitting frothing Youtube version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks for that Parky, I'll start educating myself. You can cut through a lot of shit by going straight from the Greeks to Nietzsche and then his later French counterparts Derrida and Foucault....Throw in a bit of Jung for good measure but not too much. Trump is the epitome of 'Will to Power'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_and_reception_of_Friedrich_Nietzsche According to philosopher Rene Girard,[22] Nietzsche's greatest political legacy lies in his 20th century interpreters, among them Georges Bataille, Michel Foucault, Gilles Deleuze (and Félix Guattari), and Jacques Derrida... Foucault's later writings, for example, revise Nietzsche's genealogical method to develop anti-foundationalist theories of power that divide and fragment rather than unite polities (as evinced in the liberal tradition of political theory). Deleuze, arguably the foremost of Nietzsche's Leftist interpreters, used the much-maligned "will to power" thesis in tandem with Marxian notions of commodity surplus and Freudian ideas of desire to articulate concepts such as the rhizome and other "outsides" to state power as traditionally conceived." Edited November 2, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 ...Yeah I have to read some of this It's willful ignorance otherwise. Thanks lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Buddhism does nod towards that though, doesn't it? Buddha himself appears to be deified as far as I can tell from my wanderings through China. Areet Grasshopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30440 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Read a bit of Foucalt and Derrida at university. I wouldn't read it for pleasure like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 i feel the same about chaucer. almost put me off reading for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Canterbury Tales was absolute spunk. If it had been written in proper English, it would have been shit. Written in forsooth and forsook language it was ten times worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Geoffrey Chaucer can forsook my balls. That should be on a t shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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