Renton 27784 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 6 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Hopefully we get rid, but if not he should be sent through the streets of Newcastle, bollock naked, shame GOT style. Why's he not Isak and why's he not naked? You need a better prompt. Type "naked black man who looks like Isak' and wait for the knock on the door. 👍 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 6697 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 7 minutes ago, Renton said: Why's he not Isak and why's he not naked? You need a better prompt. Type "naked black man who looks like Isak' and wait for the knock on the door. 👍 The first 3 prompts failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42149 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 16 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Hopefully we get rid, but if not he should be sent through the streets of Newcastle, bollock naked, shame GOT style. Always with the cherry tomatoes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 38 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Of course he's refusing to play and I'd be amazed if he said to Eddie, I'll play at the weekend and we said fuck off. They'll treat it that way until the window shuts, similarly I doubt they'll fine him (as they could) before then either. If Isak had reported for training earlier this week and told Howe he was available to play this weekend, do you think Eddie would have selected him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 6 minutes ago, Craig said: If Isak had reported for training earlier this week and told Howe he was available to play this weekend, do you think Eddie would have selected him? Absolutely, so long as the rest of the squad were ok with it as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Not a chance in the world would he had been picked. Howe values integrity way too much for that. If he selected him this weekend, he'd almost be validating Isak's conduct over the past 3-4 weeks as acceptable. There's disciplinary action to deal with first - he ain't coming straight back into the fold on his own say-so. Isak is refusing to integrate with the squad, but conversely Howe is currently keeping him away from the squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, Toonpack said: I take it you don't. No. Because doing so would effectively be saying it's OK to act like a cunt so long as you've the potential to be a match winner. It's about as far removed from the ethos our manager lives by that you can get. It's also two fingers up to the rest of the squad who have behaved impeccably and done what is expected of them. He'll be integrated back into the squad when Howe determines, NOT when Isak determines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, Craig said: Not a chance in the world would he had been picked. Howe values integrity way too much for that. If he selected him this weekend, he'd almost be validating Isak's conduct over the past 3-4 weeks as acceptable. There's disciplinary action to deal with first - he ain't coming straight back into the fold on his own say-so. Isak is refusing to integrate with the squad, but conversely Howe is currently keeping him away from the squad. He wouldn't be validating anything - If the rest of the squad were ok with it, he'd absolutely be considered IF he showed genuine contrition and was prepared to accept any punishment the club deemed fit and also confirmed he was stopping. It wouldn't be a case of "I fancy a game gaffer" "oh OK Alex, you're in". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42149 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 We’re at the point where we’re arguing about something that didn’t happen. I wish he would just fuck off abroad now and we get £120m or whatever to spend on the squad. At least we’ll be able to whinge about the football soon 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, Craig said: No. Because doing so would effectively be saying it's OK to act like a cunt so long as you've the potential to be a match winner. It's about as far removed from the ethos our manager lives by that you can get. It's also two fingers up to the rest of the squad who have behaved impeccably and done what is expected of them. He'll be integrated back into the squad when Howe determines, NOT when Isak determines. Where did I say Isak determines shit, you said if he trains and was available would he be selected. I say yes. Because, for him to be back training and reintegrated back into the squad he would have had to have already done whatever Eddie had determined was necessary, so your point about rewarding bad behaviour is not relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9903 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I don't think Howe wants him back so suspect we'll come to some agreement with Liverpool towards the end of the window. Hopefully he is so unfit he won't play until October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, Holden McGroin said: I don't think Howe wants him back so suspect we'll come to some agreement with Liverpool towards the end of the window. Hopefully he is so unfit he won't play until October. I would think Howe desperately wants him back (subject to the mood of the wider squad) because it's a results business, and a team with Isak in it gives you a better chance of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14245 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I don't think Howe wants him back so suspect we'll come to some agreement with Liverpool towards the end of the window. Hopefully he is so unfit he won't play until October. not a fucking chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27784 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 13 minutes ago, Alex said: We’re at the point where we’re arguing about something that didn’t happen. We've caught the mackem virus! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 11 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Where did I say Isak determines shit, you said if he trains and was available would he be selected. I say yes. Because, for him to be back training and reintegrated back into the squad he would have had to have already done whatever Eddie had determined was necessary, so your point about rewarding bad behaviour is not relevant. "Don't worry about it Alex, lad. It doesn't matter you torpedoed 4 weeks of pre-season planning, what's important is you're sorry and you won't do it again - take 2 weeks fine and let's pretend it didn't happen, OK?" No chance - it's not the way Howe operates. If, and it's a massive IF, Isak woke up on Monday, realised the errors of his ways and showed a determined and consistent effort to fold back into line, he MIGHTY be considered for selection by say the first Champions League tie. Howe will want convincing evidence of his commitment before he does though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, Craig said: "Don't worry about it Alex, lad. It doesn't matter you torpedoed 4 weeks of pre-season planning, what's important is you're sorry and you won't do it again - take 2 weeks fine and let's pretend it didn't happen, OK?" No chance - it's not the way Howe operates. If, and it's a massive IF, Isak woke up on Monday, realised the errors of his ways and showed a determined and consistent effort to fold back into line, he MIGHTY be considered for selection by say the first Champions League tie. Howe will want convincing evidence of his commitment before he does though. You're interpreting what I said as something you want to think I said, but I didn't. It's not the reality anyway, so feel free, chortle away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 50743 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Renton said: Why's he not Isak and why's he not naked? You need a better prompt. Type "naked black man who looks like Isak' and wait for the knock on the door. 👍 1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said: The first 3 prompts failed CT still hasn’t sussed NSFW privileges on his parental settings. Three fucking weeks! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27784 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: CT still hasn’t sussed NSFW privileges on his parental settings. Three fucking weeks! If only he knew, he needs to get Chat GPT Black edition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 50743 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Reported. Lacism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, Toonpack said: You're interpreting what I said as something you want to think I said, but I didn't. It's not the reality anyway, so feel free, chortle away. You quite clearly said that Isak had made himself available for training on Monday, Eddie would have picked him for tomorrow. I disagreed. There's no abiguity on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, Craig said: You quite clearly said that Isak had made himself available for training on Monday, Eddie would have picked him for tomorrow. I disagreed. There's no abiguity on that You posed a hypothetical question, if Isak was back in training would he be selected to play. Obviously for him to be back in training something significant would have had to change and also Eddie would have to be satisfied that change crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's of what he Eddie would accept to allow him back into aforementioned training. If THAT hypothetical situation existed and the standard was met, of course he'd be selected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Never mind, point has been well and truly missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, Craig said: Never mind, point has been well and truly missed. Aye, you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, Toonpack said: Aye, you did Not me, you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 50743 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, Craig said: Not me, you! TP on the left, Craig on the right. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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