Dr Gloom 21626 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 i've had a nightmare. i smoked throughout my teens, 20s, and early 30s. finally kicked the habit after having kids and got to the point where i only have the occasional tab when v pissed - and even then i stopped enjoying the sensation of smoking so it never felt like nicotine had its claws in me. now, after all these years, i've only gone and got myself hooked to a vape. fuck me, they're addictive. they don't appear to be regulated so the nicotine levels in them are off the scale - way higher than in tabs, plus there's no end to the bloody things! the thing about smoking is you have a tab and it satisfies a craving for a bit - with these bastards 20-30 minutes can easily disappear and you're still chugging away on them. i went cold turkey while i was away on holiday with the kids to "prove i could stop", then got right back on it as soon as i could after i got home. i know i need to pack it in - they're no good for you and i don't want the kids seeing me using it, but it's reminded me how much i enjoy the buzz from nicotine during the day; so much nicer than caffeine, which i'm also addicted to, but my caffeine consumption has dropped massively as a result of this. anyone else hooked to this absolute junk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4547 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i've had a nightmare. i smoked throughout my teens, 20s, and early 30s. finally kicked the habit after having kids and got to the point where i only have the occasional tab when v pissed - and even then i stopped enjoying the sensation of smoking so it never felt like nicotine had its claws in me. now, after all these years, i've only gone and got myself hooked to a vape. fuck me, they're addictive. they don't appear to be regulated so the nicotine levels in them are off the scale - way higher than in tabs, plus there's no end to the bloody things! the thing about smoking is you have a tab and it satisfies a craving for a bit - with these bastards 20-30 minutes can easily disappear and you're still chugging away on them. i went cold turkey while i was away on holiday with the kids to "prove i could stop", then got right back on it as soon as i could after i got home. i know i need to pack it in - they're no good for you and i don't want the kids seeing me using it, but it's reminded me how much i enjoy the buzz from nicotine during the day; so much nicer than caffeine, which i'm also addicted to, but my caffeine consumption has dropped massively as a result of this. anyone else hooked to this absolute junk? Love a nice vape, but got to be nic salts. Current set up - Vaporesso pro 4 and Mr Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21626 Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Love a nice vape, but got to be nic salts. Current set up - Vaporesso pro 4 and Mr Blue got myself hooked to the lost mary nic salts - 20mg of nicotine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20642 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 So you quit for an entire holiday abroad and then started again? Sounds very much like it is psychological, habitual addiction rather than physical. So I would tackle it from that angle maybe? You've given up cigarettes before, you can do this. There needs to be much heavier regulation on vapes. Disposable ones should be banned outright and I would tax the fuck out the permanent ones, who knows what problems are being stored up. Nearly 25 years since I gave up tabs now I think, always thought it was the most pointless addiction ever given the benefit/risk ratio (smoking is truly the most damaging thing for your health, increases your risks of nearly every disease). Don't think I ever even enjoyed nicotine, smoking addiction became more a by product of cannabis use for me. Banning smoking virtually everywhere and especially in pubs was a huge help in me quitting, and they repulse me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20642 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: got myself hooked to the lost mary nic salts - 20mg of nicotine Well, when you're in the same company as CT, you know you need to do something..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8885 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I smoked cigars (inhaled) for years, I have vaped for last 5/6 years. No intention of wrapping in, I enjoy it. Nicotine is harmless in itself, the rest is just water vapour. I use 16mg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21626 Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 Just now, Renton said: So you quit for an entire holiday abroad and then started again? Sounds very much like it is psychological, habitual addiction rather than physical. So I would tackle it from that angle maybe? You've given up cigarettes before, you can do this. bit of both. i missed the buzz while i was away. i can survive without it fine (after the initial day or two of nicotine withdrawal), but i was craving the idea of it as soon as i had the chance on returning. the physical addiction is also real, mind. i've found my skin literally crawling when meetings have overrun, finding it hard to focus at work etc until i've been out and had a quick blast on the vape. i say quick - they're invariably 10-15 minute breaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8885 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: bit of both. i missed the buzz while i was away. i can survive without it fine (after the initial day or two of nicotine withdrawal), but i was craving the idea of it as soon as i had the chance on returning. the physical addiction is also real, mind. i've found my skin literally crawling when meetings have overrun, finding it hard to focus at work etc until i've been out and had a quick blast on the vape. i say quick - they're invariably 10-15 minute breaks The hidden benefit of vaping 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21626 Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 Just now, Toonpack said: I smoked cigars (inhaled) for years, I have vaped for last 5/6 years. No intention of wrapping in, I enjoy it. Nicotine is harmless in itself, the rest is just water vapour. I use 16mg. is it though? you're still basically heating up your lungs while you inhale it. i dunno, lesser of two evils perhaps but it can't be any good for you. and, i'm sorry, you inhaled cigars? are you some kind of animal? that's like asking the waiter to warm up gazpacho soup, a'la arnold rimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43320 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Cold turkey bitch. You've been off the tabs for years, you can get off these again, you're just gonna have to have a shit couple of weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19493 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 A lad I worked with wasn't a smoker. Well, someone you would class as a smoker. At Christmas when we were out for a few beers you would see him have the odd cigar. On other nights out he didn't bother. Now, he's a massive Vape heed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43320 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 They prefer vapist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34323 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Every time you fancy one, just imagine CT toking on a vape whilst getting sucked off by Denise Squelch 👍🏻 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21626 Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 13 minutes ago, Alex said: Every time you fancy one, just imagine CT toking on a vape whilst getting sucked off by Denise Squelch 👍🏻 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8879 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 45 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i've had a nightmare. i smoked throughout my teens, 20s, and early 30s. finally kicked the habit after having kids and got to the point where i only have the occasional tab when v pissed - and even then i stopped enjoying the sensation of smoking so it never felt like nicotine had its claws in me. now, after all these years, i've only gone and got myself hooked to a vape. fuck me, they're addictive. they don't appear to be regulated so the nicotine levels in them are off the scale - way higher than in tabs, plus there's no end to the bloody things! the thing about smoking is you have a tab and it satisfies a craving for a bit - with these bastards 20-30 minutes can easily disappear and you're still chugging away on them. i went cold turkey while i was away on holiday with the kids to "prove i could stop", then got right back on it as soon as i could after i got home. i know i need to pack it in - they're no good for you and i don't want the kids seeing me using it, but it's reminded me how much i enjoy the buzz from nicotine during the day; so much nicer than caffeine, which i'm also addicted to, but my caffeine consumption has dropped massively as a result of this. anyone else hooked to this absolute junk? I was exactly the same as you. I smoked through teens to my mid 20s - probably 6-8 tabs a day, plus another 10 on nights out once a week. Quit them insanely easily with nicotine gum and was never arsed with vaping in it's early format when they were blowing up and killing/maiming people. My wife decided she wanted to try an elf bar (despite never smoking in her life) - she couldn't hack it but I wasn't prepared to waste a fiver so blasted through it within 12 hours. 6 months later I was going through a vape and a half a day. It completely fucked my lungs. I managed to kick it by: 1) A month on 4mg gum - A sleeve (12 - 15 chewers) a day. 2) A month on 2mg gum - same quantity. 3) A week on step one patches / chewing normal gum. 4) A week on step two patches 5) Two weeks on step three patches. Now I am addicted to normal chewing gum and chewing the fucking life out of a pen - and I still have the cravings! Two weeks on 2mg gum was all it took to actually kick the habit to tabs for reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8885 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: is it though? you're still basically heating up your lungs while you inhale it. i dunno, lesser of two evils perhaps but it can't be any good for you. and, i'm sorry, you inhaled cigars? are you some kind of animal? that's like asking the waiter to warm up gazpacho soup, a'la arnold rimmer Zero chemicals though, if I lived in Houston for example I'd be heating my lungs with every breath outdoors and drying them out indoors with the a/c. On inhaling, it's a great hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10853 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: i've had a nightmare. Was CT giving you the best blowjob of your life? 🙂 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8885 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 31 minutes ago, Dazzler said: I was exactly the same as you. I smoked through teens to my mid 20s - probably 6-8 tabs a day, plus another 10 on nights out once a week. Quit them insanely easily with nicotine gum and was never arsed with vaping in it's early format when they were blowing up and killing/maiming people. My wife decided she wanted to try an elf bar (despite never smoking in her life) - she couldn't hack it but I wasn't prepared to waste a fiver so blasted through it within 12 hours. 6 months later I was going through a vape and a half a day. It completely fucked my lungs. I managed to kick it by: 1) A month on 4mg gum - A sleeve (12 - 15 chewers) a day. 2) A month on 2mg gum - same quantity. 3) A week on step one patches / chewing normal gum. 4) A week on step two patches 5) Two weeks on step three patches. Now I am addicted to normal chewing gum and chewing the fucking life out of a pen - and I still have the cravings! Two weeks on 2mg gum was all it took to actually kick the habit to tabs for reference. Coming off cigars onto the vape exact opposite effect for me, re the lungs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10543 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Used to smoke 'socially', then quit them entirely when my first was born. Tried vaping instead after a while and honestly, I vape more now than I ever smoked. I'm also at the point where I'm gonna quit. I've never been one for buying the disposable ones, so I'm just getting to the end of this filter and won't be buying any more. I'll toss the thing itself when this filter goes. Honestly think it's more of a psychological thing because I've gone for weeks at a time without it when on holiday or whatever. I just find my fingers get bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8879 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Just now, Toonpack said: Coming off cigars onto the vape exact opposite effect for me, re the lungs. I was coming off 10 years of no smoking to smoking the equivalent of 30-40 a day tbf which probably didn't help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8885 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 1 minute ago, The Fish said: Honestly think it's more of a psychological thing because I've gone for weeks at a time without it when on holiday or whatever. I just find my fingers get bored. Talk to CT. Edited September 12 by Toonpack 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8879 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, The Fish said: Used to smoke 'socially', then quit them entirely when my first was born. Tried vaping instead after a while and honestly, I vape more now than I ever smoked. I'm also at the point where I'm gonna quit. I've never been one for buying the disposable ones, so I'm just getting to the end of this filter and won't be buying any more. I'll toss the thing itself when this filter goes. Honestly think it's more of a psychological thing because I've gone for weeks at a time without it when on holiday or whatever. I just find my fingers get bored. That's what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 8859 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 at least make it worthwhile, vape a juice with a shit load of thc in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20642 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 57 minutes ago, Gemmill said: They prefer vapist. And they're welcome at Gemmill's nonce workshopTM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8879 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: at least make it worthwhile, vape a juice with a shit load of thc in it. THC did not agree with me when I was smoking tac in uni. I think I'd be diagnosed schizophrenic within 2 weeks of vaping the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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