thebrokendoll 14190 Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 1 minute ago, Alex said: Woltemade needing a rest isn’t dependent on that. he should be starting then. and getting taken off later. much like starting with hall and not dan burn at left back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Just now, Alex said: I think he could do that job in Europe and would’ve been a better bet last night. Not exactly in great form himself though The fucking irony that Wilson, who looked absolutely finished last season, seems to be banging them in happily for West Ham. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 One positive is it's making the shopping list write itself: Goalkeeper Left Back Striker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22422 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Kettled by the collaborators' riot police last night, huge crush, loads of lasses and kids caught in it, they were pepper spraying teenagers for fuck all. They were fully worse than last time when one of our lot threw a wheelie bin at the fuckers... 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62968 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 13 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: he should be starting then. and getting taken off later. much like starting with hall and not dan burn at left back. He only got 20 minutes last night, and Hall 30. That was done for a reason, and we know that Howe said he would make a decision on Hall based on advice from the medical staff, so we can assume Woltemade was the same. He can't start them and give them 20/30 minutes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12521 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said: Yeah, you could single most of the team out from last night. Even Tonali was sloppy. I think Gordon is beginning to grate on fans now because it’s coming upto 10 months now without any consistency. I thought Murphy was terrible last night, although it’s not his fault he was out of position. Still, we are at a stage where we are fuming over losing an away CL game. Realistically this might be as good as it gets for us. Enjoy it lads. Really sloppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62968 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Just now, PaddockLad said: Kettled by the collaborators' riot police last night, huge crush, loads of lasses and kids caught in it, they were pepper spraying teenagers for fuck all. They were fully worse than last time when one of our lot threw a wheelie bin at the fuckers... I was starting to wonder where you were actually. I thought you'd either been killed or forgotten your password again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 24 minutes ago, Gemmill said: You can't have it both ways. You were raging when Botman played two 90minutes back to back after coming back from injury, now you want Woltemade flogging. WHICH IS IT?! Wait, wait. The Botman that had just come back from an ACL injury compared to Wolte who was a little tired, but clearly fit enough to come on the pitch? You're comparing Apples and a fucking baked potato you're that far off. We absolutely need rotation. But he's playing players in positions that are now damaging their reputation with the fans and like Craig said must be destroying their confidence. Murphy isn't a RWB Gordon isn't a striker Dan Burn isn't a LB. The latter at times he's had little choice to play him there. He needs to try something else other than sticking with the same broken formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12521 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Not sure we're going to be in the market for a striker. Woltemade, Wissa, Osula currently at the club. Plus Howe still thinks Gordon can "do a job" up front, despite all the evidence that says he fucking can't. Not sure we'll go after a 'keeper either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62968 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 1 minute ago, wykikitoon said: Wait, wait. The Botman that had just come back from an ACL injury compared to Wolte who was a little tired, but clearly fit enough to come on the pitch? You're comparing Apples and a fucking baked potato you're that far off. We absolutely need rotation. But he's playing players in positions that are now damaging their reputation with the fans and like Craig said must be destroying their confidence. Murphy isn't a RWB Gordon isn't a striker Dan Burn isn't a LB. The latter at times he's had little choice to play him there. He needs to try something else other than sticking with the same broken formula. So can you explain exactly when and when not Howe should take the advice of the medical team. Because it sounds like the answer might be "when I say so". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 6 minutes ago, The Fish said: Really sloppy Murrphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: So can you explain exactly when and when not Howe should take the advice of the medical team. Because it sounds like the answer might be "when I say so". Has Howe said that was the reason why Wolte didn't start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62968 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 3 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Murphy isn't a RWB Gordon isn't a striker Dan Burn isn't a LB. 1. Who else was there? 2. Correct, it was done out of necessity. 3. Correct, it was done out of necessity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 2 minutes ago, The Fish said: Not sure we're going to be in the market for a striker. Woltemade, Wissa, Osula currently at the club. Plus Howe still thinks Gordon can "do a job" up front, despite all the evidence that says he fucking can't. Not sure we'll go after a 'keeper either. How utterly depressing that you're probably spot on. I think we'll be in for a striker IF Osula is allowed to go - whether it'll be an improvement is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42055 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 19 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: he should be starting then. and getting taken off later. much like starting with hall and not dan burn at left back. If you’ve got players in key positions out injured and just recovering fully from injury and you’re in the champions league and trying to retain the league cup and still prioritising the league itself then you can’t realistically start your strongest XI every match. When you leave people out who would ideally be starting it’s a calculated risk. I assume the thought process behind that is our already having a strong position in the CL and Marseille being perceived as not particularly strong opponents. It didn’t work out as planned but it should have, as even with the ropey performance they should’ve got at least a draw. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 16111 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: I totally understand starting Gordon up front. Flogging Woltemade will eventually lead to him breaking down and we can't afford that. I'm right on the verge of being completely done with Gordon though. The only thing holding me back is that he looked either still not completely fit, or like he couldn't really be fucked last night, and I don't know which it is. There's certainly been enough evidence this season to suggest that his head is elsewhere and he thinks he's better than us. Which he absolutely fucking isn't on current showing. I didn't think he was bad first half - a waste of space as a striker but he was chasing down loose balls and doing all the graft you expect from him. Then he lagged to fuck early in the second and it took ages to sub him off when it was clear he was knackered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62968 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 1 minute ago, wykikitoon said: Has Howe said that was the reason why Wolte didn't start? No but as I mentioned earlier, the idea that he just willingly made the team a lot worse by picking Gordon up front cos he felt like seeing how he did is fucking idiotic. Gordon up front is a last resort move. So the logical assumption is he made the move as a last resort because he couldn't flog Woltemade again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27739 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 9 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Kettled by the collaborators' riot police last night, huge crush, loads of lasses and kids caught in it, they were pepper spraying teenagers for fuck all. They were fully worse than last time when one of our lot threw a wheelie bin at the fuckers... You okay mate? Honestly, never done a European trip before but think this would be low on my list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14190 Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 10 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Kettled by the collaborators' riot police last night, huge crush, loads of lasses and kids caught in it, they were pepper spraying teenagers for fuck all. They were fully worse than last time when one of our lot threw a wheelie bin at the fuckers... I heard about this, me brothers son was there last night. french coppers are cunts, they were last time too. should send a few of our pikeys over there to tow the cunts down d roads strapped to the back of a toledo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: 1. Who else was there? 2. Correct, it was done out of necessity. 3. Correct, it was done out of necessity. I have mentioned playing Thiaw at RB and going away from 5 at the back and got shot down. So instead of people pissing and moaning about how XYZ don't work in ABC positions we should all just be quiet and 'In Eddie we trust' at the lack of squad depth in certain positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28475 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: No but There is no but then If Howe had come out and said the medical team said he needed a rest then fine. You're making an assumption. So Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12521 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 11 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: There is no but then If Howe had come out and said the medical team said he needed a rest then fine. You're making an assumption. So But Howe isn't going to do that. Evr. Even if he wasn't a big fibber when it came to the fitness of our players, he's not going to give any opponent an advantage by suggesting one of our lot is a bit tired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 12 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I have mentioned playing Thiaw at RB and going away from 5 at the back and got shot down. We were playing Wing Backs last night rather than out-and-out Full Backs which is why I think Murphy was picked. If only we had someone really pacy who tends to play on the right who could have fulfilled that role instead. Re: Thiaw - we have a core backbone I think we need to stick with - him at CB & Tonali in central midfield are two players who, if available, we shouldn't fuck about with. As much as it pains me to say it, Gemmill is right about Barnes at the moment as well - he's working on the LW so we need to stick with that as well for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39120 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 14 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: There is no but then If Howe had come out and said the medical team said he needed a rest then fine. You're making an assumption. So He appears to be making the assumption that Howe has a footballing IQ which exceeds CT's and didn't deliberately try to throw the match. I think that's a fairly safe assumption to make. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43811 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 11 hours ago, Craig said: It’s telling that those of us who’ve played in goal and who’ve defended him thus far are saying enough is enough. I'm sorry but Whereas those of us who haven't played in goal think he's actually been playing very well, actually. He's a good keeper, has saved our bacon regularly but even when he's saved our bacon he drops massive bollocks and obviously isn't great with the ball at feet. I think I'll stick to critiquing the attacking midfielders as one who played there myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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