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I'd be fucking livid if I was Howe like. Pre season starts on Monday and we're still offering Burnley 60% of their stated asking price for Trafford. If Chelsea wanted Pedro, us meeting Brighton's valuation or not is irrelevant, cos they would have come in and gazumped us anyway - wages, London, and the player's apparent preference would have fucked us anyway. But we appear to have a clear run at Trafford, he wants to come, and we are dicking about on price. If we don't make Burnley an offer they can't refuse, they'll keep refusing it and keep a hold of a lad that gives them a better chance of staying up.

But we got our sovereignty back. Stop complaining.

She's practicing what she's preaching TBF.... "We need more babies so climb aboard, let's breed!"

"Economists and analysts at Cambridge Econometrics found that, by 2035, the UK is anticipated to have three million fewer jobs, 32% lower investment, 5% lower exports and 16% lower imports, than it would have had been. The report states that the UK will be £311bn worse off by 2035 due to leaving EU." Our old people did this to us. I also checked the yearly loss to the public purse and it's estimated to be about £25bn a year. How much of this shit we're currently doing wouldn't have been necessary if we weren't so stupid...

elanga is going to cost £60m, i reckon. it seems unlikely forest will let him go for less given that's how much every other PL attacker seems to have gone for this window and they don't have to sell. it's exactly like us slapping a £150m fee on isak. they're under no pressure to sell him for less so it depends on how much eddie wants him. i have my doubts that elanga is a £60m player but you have to defer to sir eddie. and at least with this one it sounds like the player wants the move - some of his social media posts haven't exactly been subtle.

could well be agent talk, who knows? but romano reckons we had two bids rejected and he is one of the more reliable transfer hacks plus joao pedro is a player we've been heavily linked with before so howe clearly likes him. it sounds credible. i completely trust eddie but if the rumours are to be believed we are struggling to meet the valuations for the PL-proven players he seems to have targeted this time.

yeah, could well be the case. i personally wish him nothing but bad luck after he snubbed us for a second time. i don't see why chelsea are so attractive beyond the wages they they offer and i suppose the lure of living in london. they've already got so many attacking players, the odds of being a regular starter there aren't great.

If they just came out and pointed the finger at Brexit, I think these conversations would be a lot easier...

Aye, honestly this Labour party is pathetic, politically clueless.

Labour trying to woo the benefit cuts rebels by pointing out that, since their u-turn, it's now ONLY 150,000 people that will be pushed into poverty by the cuts, and not 250,000. I mean fucking hell.

What is wrong with ME? The nerve.

What is WRONG with you?!

Not sure how I feel about this, a bit queasy tbh. You disgust me Gemmill.

"You have a woman's bottom!"

Wouldn't fancy getting pegged off that.

Do you have it on absolute authority we'd made an approach, or are you going on the words of a few journos? I don't know either way, but carry on having your mental gymnastics about every transfer rumour we get dragged into.

Here you go Wykiki, that should soften the blow.

Hotel at the weekend had 4 brummies in. Fuck me. Dull sounding cunts

To me it looks like we want Premier League players but we're unwilling to pay the Premier League tax. No one has any clue on what is really going on behind the scenes but we do know that Eddie stated he wanted to move fast which, for one reason or another, clearly hasn't happened. I'm not arsed about Pedro going to Chelsea to warm their bench whilst collecting massive wages and time will tell whether it was agent games or genuine interest that linked us with him in the first place but the next few days will be very telling. Trafford should be the easiest link to conclude and we'll see if it's one where we, once again, put in tiny incremental bids that fall short of the asking price or if we pay what Burnley want to get our man. Similarly for Elanga, given the player supposedly wants the move. Although, as Brentford don't need to sell, I can see that one being one we eventually give up on. Hopefully we've a list of targets from abroad that fall within our price range as the "buy Premiership proven" strategy isn't working out too well for the 3rd (or is 4th now) window running.

Mate you can still go and watch your beloved Villa Women's team. They've just got a new daddy now.

I honestly think that could be a nail on the coffin for me and football

huge crowd at that game.

I agree with you ultimately but nonetheless, these are the sorts of issues he will lose support over and I'm not seeing where he gains it otherwise. The right quite literally will never vote for him.

Ah, right. I'll be honest and ignore all discussion about that no matter who from. I don't think these culture war subjects, wedge issues, have any place in politics. It's a big reason politics is failing imo.

Villa don't have any PSR issues but they're selling the women's team to themselves