Holden McGroin

Did anyone really notice or care about the Muslim population of the UK until the gulf war/July the Seventh? I can only remember a few people saying things like why can't the West Indian immigrants be more like the Asians as the former were seen as more of a problem. I guess that';s now reversed which is obviously a shame but I think you let the terrorism issue cloud your opinion. You're old enough to remember how much distrust and dislike there was for the Irish in the IRA days in the 70s especially but you must realise that's pretty much gone now. Of course being anti-religion I don't like some of the pandering as you call it but feel the same way about christian pandering - in fact its now hard to see who followed who on that one as you can't really blame people for saying "well they get special treatment so why shouldn't we". The solution is to stop special treatment for everyone. I also think you're completely wrong about people being afraid to speak up - the Mail (I know, sorry) might tell you you can't say anything but the truth is it's perfectly possible to speak out. There's too many people who only say they can't because they're trying to make people think they can't when they can. its been growing for a long time before july 7th and the Gulf War !!! and still growing, faster and faster. People are afraid to speak up, and the "law" isn't helping....where is that thread on that Dutch bloke and the yank who were refused entry into the UK to voice their opinions on Islam ? I know you said you personally thought they should be allowed their freedom of speech [correct of course] but the point is the authorities denied it to them for fear of offending Islam. Doesn't that tell you something ? Tells me you're a frightened old man, peering at the world over the top of your tabloid, believing every piece of crap they throw at you. Give me one example where you've personally been affected by a real life Muslim. I've been bumped off the cunts in the local offie loads of times, and it's only when you get home you realise they've ripped you. Plus they talk in Pakistani when you're in the shop, fucks me right off, it's ignorance, they could be saying "look at this fat cunt, drinking again" or anything. Well Bal couldn't say that to be fair cos he's fatter than me, but it's still ignorance. And the roles could be reversed when you are on holiday (especially with a Geordie accent ). Whats the answer? We arent allowed to leave our countries. They LIVE in this country, and the two in question for 30 years speaking better English than most of us. Do you think it's ignorant to speak in a foreign language in a British shop, when you're serving British people, and there's only three of you in the shop? I do. Fuckin height of ignorance. As for the Spain example, they'd have a GDP like Chad if we didn't go there so they can pipe down. We're just holiday makers there anyway, and I'm sure people who settle in Costa del Sol, have a go at the language anyway. If someone offered you a basic of 300,000k a year to work in a (eg) Dubai, would you learn and only speak the local language ?

No way is Nolan on 50k per week.

Did anyone really notice or care about the Muslim population of the UK until the gulf war/July the Seventh? I can only remember a few people saying things like why can't the West Indian immigrants be more like the Asians as the former were seen as more of a problem. I guess that';s now reversed which is obviously a shame but I think you let the terrorism issue cloud your opinion. You're old enough to remember how much distrust and dislike there was for the Irish in the IRA days in the 70s especially but you must realise that's pretty much gone now. Of course being anti-religion I don't like some of the pandering as you call it but feel the same way about christian pandering - in fact its now hard to see who followed who on that one as you can't really blame people for saying "well they get special treatment so why shouldn't we". The solution is to stop special treatment for everyone. I also think you're completely wrong about people being afraid to speak up - the Mail (I know, sorry) might tell you you can't say anything but the truth is it's perfectly possible to speak out. There's too many people who only say they can't because they're trying to make people think they can't when they can. its been growing for a long time before july 7th and the Gulf War !!! and still growing, faster and faster. People are afraid to speak up, and the "law" isn't helping....where is that thread on that Dutch bloke and the yank who were refused entry into the UK to voice their opinions on Islam ? I know you said you personally thought they should be allowed their freedom of speech [correct of course] but the point is the authorities denied it to them for fear of offending Islam. Doesn't that tell you something ? Tells me you're a frightened old man, peering at the world over the top of your tabloid, believing every piece of crap they throw at you. Give me one example where you've personally been affected by a real life Muslim. I've been bumped off the cunts in the local offie loads of times, and it's only when you get home you realise they've ripped you. Plus they talk in Pakistani when you're in the shop, fucks me right off, it's ignorance, they could be saying "look at this fat cunt, drinking again" or anything. Well Bal couldn't say that to be fair cos he's fatter than me, but it's still ignorance. And the roles could be reversed when you are on holiday (especially with a Geordie accent ). Whats the answer? We arent allowed to leave our countries.

The ignorance of LeazesMag is astounding but not too different from fellow 60+ year olds I suspect.

You probably dont have an 8-pack though.

Number 49 is my personal favourite.

I was banging this girl for awhile whose idol was Jordan. One of the fittest birds i've been with but fucking brain dead. Great, great rack though.

I'd give him some time on the wing rather than full back. He'll get destroyed if playing in defence.

Snodgrass looks a bit one-paced to me. I quite liked the look of Hooper last year. Might be a big jump to the PL though.

Pardew will get marked on next season after he dips into the transfer market. Providing we stay up of course.

I was just thinking about that spotty fucka. Kennedy celebrity fan, Kennedy celebrity fan. Think they have Kevin Costner too to be fair. He picked them purely on name though.

Thats not true. The players simply aren't good enough to get where the supporters think we should be. if we have 2-3 injuries coming into a game we are guaranteed not to win.

I'd be tempted to put colo in the holding role.

5-3-2 has misfired spectacularly. Its clearly foreign to the defenders.

Colo from 2 years ago is playing today.

Barton is either hit or (completely) miss with his delivery. This normally goes on a game to game basis aswell.

Could he have hit that any harder? We only play well when we are 4-0 down so if we ship another 1 in soon, its game on.

Catalogue of errors there started by Williamsons's hopeless up-and-under, Harpers calamitous toe poke, Campbells mis-timed jump and Colo day dreaming.

Aye, we seem to be giving away a lot of throw ins. It must be difficult for the players to mentally get that out of the system as putting the ball into touch would be acceptable against all other 18 teams in the PL.

If only we had a 12 point lead over them .

The one posted earlier in this thread is crystal clear. Its not English commentary though.

I'd give LovelyHands 15 more mins then drag him off he isnt getting in behind them. We could have done with Rangers height for set pieces anyway. The atmosphere sounds terrible there. You can hear the players calling for the ball.

I think we've been the better team. With 5-3-2 you should get more possession of the ball and build up attacks. We have started doing this towards the end of the half. Ferguson looks ok going forward but needs to be tighter defensively. Hopefully he'll learn quickly.

Which will probably equal another winless 2 games. When is Best back ?

4 points off a relegation spot if things stay the same. Very worrying.