AgentAxeman

?? not sure what your getting at. quite frankly the end of the empire was pretty much settled after the 1st world war as we could no longer afford imperialism. and tbh, i'd rather be at the beck and call of the yanks than soviet russia. not saying i'm happy with that fact that we are. dont think ive ever said that are you saying we shouldnt have fought WW2 and let germany have a free reign over western europe? that would have been a properly scary situation. with no resistance from the western allies germany would have probably overthrown the soviets and that would have been quite frankly terrifying as they could of then disposed of britain at their whim. biggest mistake germany ever made was not disposing of us (the UK) in 1940 (either by invasion or treaty) as in reality we turned into a huge drop off point for america after that and the 2 front war was more than german infrastructure could take due to the bombing campaign of the western allies. the same western allies that would of been out of the war or at least been severly curtailed by the fact that 'airstrip 1' wasnt off the coast of their controlled teritory. I'm not talking about the war, I'm referring to your constant digs at the proud tradition of fair play and inclusiveness that pervades the British left. Of course it began with that witch Thatcher (Is she still alive she must be drinking the blood of virgins?) She bought into the whole neo-conservative thesis of perpetual conflict and bolshiness and the expansion of a dracula like private sector. Working claw in glove with the dumbest man alive at that time Reagan (a puppet of the Jewish banking cartels like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs/Bear Stearns (since defunct) they took profit and value out of the system and away from people driven projects. Of course this has been continued by Blair ( a very unsound man and a genetic liar with an ugly posh vindictive wife) and the the 2nd most cluesless president after Reagan - vis a vie Bush Jnr. None of these people and their supporters give a flying fuck about the likes of me and you and keep gumbies like you distracted with perpetual stories of fear and disaster. time of the month Parky??? ffs, fair play and inclusiveness. think peter mandelson................... Still dont understand why you think i wanted a country at the beck and call of america. you blame the right for this fair enough, but as i said if it wasnt the yanks it would of been the commies. i reckon i know which is better. i reckon you're completely correct about the americans, the blairs and also the fact no one in your post (inc. thatcher) gives a fuck about me and you. they dont have to give a fuck tho, they just have to make things work.

I'm man enough to admit that Acca may well have been right. Good call Acca!! Now, can you predict the lottery numbers for next week?

?? not sure what your getting at. quite frankly the end of the empire was pretty much settled after the 1st world war as we could no longer afford imperialism. and tbh, i'd rather be at the beck and call of the yanks than soviet russia. not saying i'm happy with that fact that we are. dont think ive ever said that are you saying we shouldnt have fought WW2 and let germany have a free reign over western europe? that would have been a properly scary situation. with no resistance from the western allies germany would have probably overthrown the soviets and that would have been quite frankly terrifying as they could of then disposed of britain at their whim. biggest mistake germany ever made was not disposing of us (the UK) in 1940 (either by invasion or treaty) as in reality we turned into a huge drop off point for america after that and the 2 front war was more than german infrastructure could take due to the bombing campaign of the western allies. the same western allies that would of been out of the war or at least been severly curtailed by the fact that 'airstrip 1' wasnt off the coast of their controlled teritory.

appeasement gave this country time to re-arm, especially the airforce. theres no way we could have stood against germany if they'd decided to invade us in 1938 or 1939. overall imo, appeasement was good politics at that time.

bollocks! no clean sheet bonus today!

to what support do you refer? They praised Hitler's election and also had an infamous "Hooray for the blackshirts" headline in support of Moseley. Ive never seen or heard of that. do you have a link?

6-0 CT I will forever listen to your predictions!!

5-0 Guthrie edit: scorer corrected

to what support do you refer?

From the Mail..... Good Old Footy? No, a dangerous, deluded hypocrite It wasn't so much the olive-green donkey jacket which men of my father's generation objected to. It was the fact that the Labour leader laying the wreath at the Cenotaph sat out the Second World War and let others do his fighting for him. We still don't know the real reason Michael Foot managed to avoid military service. Some put it down to his pious Quaker pacifism qualifying him for a free pass. Others say it was ill-health, a combination of asthma and a skin complaint - though plenty of asthmatic boys with acne were at the front of the queue to sign up for the fight against the Nazis. Foot preferred to sneer from the safety of the sidelines, even publishing a book attacking far better men than he for indulging Hitler throughout the 1930s, ignoring the indisputable reality that this 'appeasement' bought Britain time to re-arm, which ultimately equipped us to stand alone and ensured our survival as a free nation. While his Left-wing contemporaries, including Tony Benn, were enlisting in the RAF, the Army and the Royal Navy, Foot was keeping the home fires burning at his luxury apartment in Mayfair, curled up on the sofa in a brocade smoking jacket, reading George Bernard Shaw. Even if he was physically unsuited for the front line, there were plenty of other ways in which he could have done his bit for the war effort. Foot could have joined the Home Guard and patrolled the White Cliffs of Dover with a breadknife strapped to a walking stick. He could have found useful work in the munitions factories, or got himself a reserved occupation in the coalmines alongside those working-class heroes he lionised throughout his life. When the British Expeditionary Force was being evacuated from Dunkirk, Foot could have joined the flotilla of small ships as a medical orderly, administering First Aid to the fallen as they retreated from the beaches. I'm sure Lord Beaverbrook would have loaned him his yacht. The former Labour leader, pictured with his faithful dog, campaigned for unilateral disarmament Instead, Foot opted to talk a good fight in the fashionable, self-indulgent socialist salons of the spoilt upper-middle classes and the leader columns of the Evening Standard. Plenty of other Standard staffers fought and died in World War II. When I joined the paper in the late Seventies, there was a memorial to them in the foyer. Foot was a standing affront to their sacrifice. But then he had previous. While one of his heroes, the trades union leader Jack Jones, and hundreds of other idealistic young British Leftists raced to fight the fascists in the Spanish Civil War, Foot stayed home. There's always been a fine line between conscientious objection and cowardice. That's why so many of the tributes to Good Old Footy's 'bravery' this week had such a hollow ring. Obituaries have pointed up Foot's friendship with Enoch Powell, who certainly wasn't afforded such glowing accolades on his death. Yet Powell once said his greatest regret was not laying down his life for his country. No danger of Footy ever dying in the last ditch, unless it was on Hampstead Heath while out walking the dog. His alleged asthma never prevented him delivering lungbursting speeches to CND rallies. While campaigning for a nuclear-free world is a noble, if deluded, aim, Foot took it one step beyond. He wanted unilateral disarmament - demanding Britain and the West give up our nukes while thousands of Russian warheads were pointed in our direction. You have to be a real 'intellectual' to come up with something so stupid and suicidal. What were his motives? You might have thought that having survived the threat of Nazi totalitarianism, thanks to the sacrifices of others, Foot would have been alert to the equal dangers of communism. Stalin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin. Far from it. Like so many other misguided men and women of his generation, Foot was a Soviet stooge. Although not a paid-up agent of Moscow, he was certainly one of the most prominent of Lenin's 'useful idiots'. The Labour Party was crawling with them in the Sixties, Seventies and early Eighties. This may be all very well in an impressionable young student in a Doctor Who scarf and a Che Guevara T-shirt, but in a man who aspired to be Prime Minister it is nothing short of calamitous. Foot never grew up. Yet still his apologists cite this as evidence of a humanitarian, romantic bent - as if a love of Hazlitt is enough to mitigate a willingness to surrender one's country to a hostile foreign nuclear power. The revisionists have been out in force this week, their most ludicrous claim being that Good Old Footy was the man who saved the Labour Party for civilisation and democracy. While we expect no better from Kinnochio, who can be relied upon to unpeel the onion at the drop of a Red Flag, from New Labourites a more hard-headed assessment might have been in order. The truth is that Foot's leadership brought Labour to the brink of extinction. He gave free rein to the assorted Trots and spacemen infiltrating the party in the early Eighties. The 'longest suicide note in history' would have turned into a death sentence for Labour if a few more leading figures such as Roy Hattersley had walked out with the Gang of Four and joined the SDP. It was Right-wing trades unionists such as the engineers' Terry Duffy and the electricians' Eric Hammond, who kept the Labour flame burning, not the Hampstead dinner-party set. God help us if Footy had ever become Prime Minister. His obituaries only go to prove once again that being of the Left means never having to say you're sorry. They'll even forgive him freeloading off the hated Tory newspaper baron Beaverbrook, who lavished upon Foot a country house and fabulous holidays in the South of France. This titan of the Left enjoyed rich men's hospitality every bit as much as Peter Mandelson does today. Foot's ocean-going hypocrisy is matched only by that of those New Labourites singing his praises this week. He stood up for what he believed in, they say. He was the true voice of dissent, unafraid to express his pacifist, socialist opinions. Yet when Walter Wolfgang, a near contemporary of Foot, had the audacity to heckle Jack Straw over Iraq at a Labour conference, these same people had him thrown out by the police. And when a poet started reading out the names of Iraq and Afghanistan war dead at the Cenotaph, they had her arrested under an act introduced deliberately to crush dissent. If Good Old Footy turned up at the Cenotaph these days and started spouting his pacifist protest slogans, he'd get the collar of his donkey jacket felt before his wreath had touched the ground.

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RIP

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RIP who the fuck is he like? never heard of him.

I havent tried it but i would like to. can you post a link? http://www.uktestonline.co.uk/?p=sample_test Doesn't look as bad as I remember it but given the pass rate is 75% I'd imagine most the indigenous population here would fail it and get deported to Australia. I passed. 21 out of 24 so no deportation for me but when i checked the 'incorrect answers' i found that 2 of the 3 incorrect answers where actually correct. I'd got the correct answers but it had marked it down as incorrect for some reason. bizarre!!!!!!! so in reality i got 23 out of 24. only answer i got completley wrong was the 1st one. "45% of all ethnic minority people live in london area" I reckon this deserves it's own thread like.

I havent tried it but i would like to. can you post a link?

Love you too hunny bunny!!

Home speed is canny for the money, Virgin cable is the dog's bollocks. I'm with Renton on this. I'm only 2 months into my Sky contract and ive already decided to go back to Virgin next year. Sky broadband (BT?) is fucking wank in comparison.

Loving the safety wink! makes me think you really dont mean the words you type! ....and i'm not a BNP supporter. I've never voted for them or been a member of the party. ...but of course you didnt mean that either did you? (safety wink and all that)

do you mean the same way you agree with the statement that everybody is 'a little bit thick' who is on opposite side of the political spectrum to you? is that the kind of attack you mean? I think Parky's comment was a bit tongue in cheek like, but why don't you attack him for making it rather than having a predictable pop at me? He was spot on about the BNP being largely supported by the disenfranchised working class though. I doubt Griffin would dispute that. Completely different in any case. Your and Leeazesmag attacks are about me personally, not something vague like the supporters of a political party. when did i attack you personally?? i thought we were just having a bit of friendly banter.... seriously tho, i find it bizarre in the extreme that you can suggest or agree with something so sweeping as everyone who supports an officially elected party is 'a little bit thick' then get all precious when you percieve an attack on yourself. and i didnt attack Parky cos he hasnt set himself up as an 'opponent' in this friendly battle of wits! Edit: and parky says he'll rip my fuckin head off!!11!!22£2454%2"££"$

do you mean the same way you agree with the statement that everybody is 'a little bit thick' who is on opposite side of the political spectrum to you? is that the kind of attack you mean?

Never normally agree with you Parky but that's spot on, you've summed up this thread in a nutshell. Renton, it must keep you lovely and warm that smug, self delusional but satisfied feeling of superiority! if i was LM i would suggest its all down to a university education!! Come on Axeman. Nick Griffin is the most intelligent man that supports the BNP, and he's thick as pigshit. Happy, thats the daftest thing you've ever posted on here. He attended Downing college, Cambridge and graduated in law. Not something that someone who is 'thick as pigshit' could ever achieve. Aye, but what life experience does he have?

Never normally agree with you Parky but that's spot on, you've summed up this thread in a nutshell. Renton, it must keep you lovely and warm that smug, self delusional but satisfied feeling of superiority! if i was LM i would suggest its all down to a university education!! Come on Axeman. Nick Griffin is the most intelligent man that supports the BNP, and he's thick as pigshit. Happy, thats the daftest thing you've ever posted on here. He attended Downing college, Cambridge and graduated in law. Not something that someone who is 'thick as pigshit' could ever achieve.

Never normally agree with you Parky but that's spot on, you've summed up this thread in a nutshell. Renton, it must keep you lovely and warm that smug, self delusional but satisfied feeling of superiority! if i was LM i would suggest its all down to a university education!!