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Same place that we are now. People expecting instant success would have caused him to be sacked at the first sniff of trouble. Just remind me because I'm getting a bit confused, when was the last time we unreasonably sacked a manager at the first sniff of trouble due to the expectance of instant success ? Says the man who started an Allardyce Out thread after fifteen games of his reign. Thankfully the board aren't so rash. I'd say the board sacked Robson for not instantly being successful that season btw. If he was good enough to stay at the end of the previous season then they should have persisted with him through that patch of poor form. The point I'm making is that we HAVEN'T got a track record of sacking managers "too soon", and suggestion that no top manager would come to us because of our "reputation" is mad, because in my view we have no reputation, Robson had near on 5 years in charge, and finished in the bottom half of the table in his first 2 seasons, so I can't see how he was sacked too soon for not being instantly successful. I see what you're saying but Robson and Gullit, although at the club for five years and one year respectively, were sacked for not being instantly succesful in a particular season, which still demonstrates impatience. The case of Robson could be more worrying for potential managers, as it showed the board's disregard for 3 good seasons in the face of an early season wobble. I disagree, most, I'm sure would agree Robson stayed too long, he'd clearly lost the plot and although the vast majority were sad to see the old boy go, those same people knew he had to go and as for Gullit, he quit after admiting that he'd fucked up, and I'm sure you're not advocating he should have been given more time had he not resigned. I fail to see a track record of unresonably sacking managers too soon at St James' Park I'm talking about Robson being sacked in the context of that season - he wasn't sacked for the record of the previous five years, he was sacked for the team's poor performance over the course of 5 or however many games it was - i.e. for not being instantly successful that season. Hardly a track record likely to put off a top class manager from taking the job is it ? The only track record we've aquired is that of appointing the wrong manager. Not in isolation, but add it to the sacking of Gullit for similar reasons and the sacking of Dalglish so early on and you can't really blame people for percieveing us as having itchy trigger fingers. Dalglish is the only example in my opinion of ditching a manager too soon, Gullit had to go and had the grace to recognise that too and left on his own accord, 1 manager sacked too soon in 10 years shouldn't put off any potential managerial targets in my opinion, if that were the case who'd manage in Spain or Italy ? they've never been shy of firing managers and its not stopped the cream from managing their either. Whilst I don't disagree that stability and success is long term that is only the case when you've the right man in charge, I think you could have given Souness, Roeder and Gullit a hundred seasons in charge at Newcastle and you'd not have witnessed progression, time doesn't guarantee success.

Michael Owen's miserable stay at Newcastle will end during next month's transfer window if the club can find a buyer. Newcastle are ready to cut their losses on the England striker, who cost them £17million to sign from Real Madrid in the summer of 2005. Newcastle ready to let Owen go Manager Sam Allardyce has contacted Manchester City's Sven Goran Eriksson to see if he is interested in Owen. The two worked closely together during the Swede's five-and-a-half years in charge of England but although Eriksson is keen, City owner Thaksin Shinawatra has blocked any deal because of the 28-year-old's wretched fitness record since he moved to St James' Park. Owen has started only 21 games since joining Newcastle. When his £105,000-a-week salary is taken into account, the deal has so far cost them more than £30m. Newcastle will want about £8m and fear the former Liverpool striker would be available for nothing at the end of next summer if he is not sold. There has been no sign of a contract extension and Owen is eager to be playing European football at this critical stage of his career. Owen is expected to return against Derby on Sunday week after spending more time on the sidelines because of the damaged hamstring he picked up on international duty with England. Allardyce would prefer to do a deal towards the end of January, which would give Owen time to prove his fitness. Newcastle will be without Obafemi Martins during the African Nations Cup next month and will need a ready-made replacement. Crucially, Allardyce has been told he has little cash for transfers during the January window and will have to generate his own finance. If he can find a buyer for Owen, he will be given the funds for new players. Owen's miserable injury record has contributed to Newcastle's disappointing form over recent years and former manager Sir Bobby Robson will tonight stir the pot further by claiming the club's problems can be traced back to his departure from St James' Park. Robson was in charge for five years before being sacked after a poor run of results at the start of the 2004-05 season. Graeme Souness and Glenn Roeder followed but failed to live up to expectations and now Allardyce, appointed in the summer, is the latest to feel the pressure. 'I took the club over when it was bottom of the league and in the last three years I was there it was third, fourth and fifth,' said Robson, 74, in an interview to be shown on on Setanta's Friday Football Show. 'We were in the top five for the last three years. I lost my job rather abruptly, I couldn't believe it. I didn't lose two consecutive matches and I lost my job, it was crazy. Without being egotistical, the club has suffered ever since.'

Same place that we are now. People expecting instant success would have caused him to be sacked at the first sniff of trouble. Just remind me because I'm getting a bit confused, when was the last time we unreasonably sacked a manager at the first sniff of trouble due to the expectance of instant success ? Says the man who started an Allardyce Out thread after fifteen games of his reign. Thankfully the board aren't so rash. I'd say the board sacked Robson for not instantly being successful that season btw. If he was good enough to stay at the end of the previous season then they should have persisted with him through that patch of poor form. The point I'm making is that we HAVEN'T got a track record of sacking managers "too soon", and suggestion that no top manager would come to us because of our "reputation" is mad, because in my view we have no reputation, Robson had near on 5 years in charge, and finished in the bottom half of the table in his first 2 seasons, so I can't see how he was sacked too soon for not being instantly successful. I see what you're saying but Robson and Gullit, although at the club for five years and one year respectively, were sacked for not being instantly succesful in a particular season, which still demonstrates impatience. The case of Robson could be more worrying for potential managers, as it showed the board's disregard for 3 good seasons in the face of an early season wobble. I disagree, most, I'm sure would agree Robson stayed too long, he'd clearly lost the plot and although the vast majority were sad to see the old boy go, those same people knew he had to go and as for Gullit, he quit after admiting that he'd fucked up, and I'm sure you're not advocating he should have been given more time had he not resigned. I fail to see a track record of unresonably sacking managers too soon at St James' Park I'm talking about Robson being sacked in the context of that season - he wasn't sacked for the record of the previous five years, he was sacked for the team's poor performance over the course of 5 or however many games it was - i.e. for not being instantly successful that season. Hardly a track record likely to put off a top class manager from taking the job is it ? The only track record we've aquired is that of appointing the wrong manager.

Same place that we are now. People expecting instant success would have caused him to be sacked at the first sniff of trouble. Just remind me because I'm getting a bit confused, when was the last time we unreasonably sacked a manager at the first sniff of trouble due to the expectance of instant success ? Says the man who started an Allardyce Out thread after fifteen games of his reign. Thankfully the board aren't so rash. I'd say the board sacked Robson for not instantly being successful that season btw. If he was good enough to stay at the end of the previous season then they should have persisted with him through that patch of poor form. The point I'm making is that we HAVEN'T got a track record of sacking managers "too soon", and suggestion that no top manager would come to us because of our "reputation" is mad, because in my view we have no reputation, Robson had near on 5 years in charge, and finished in the bottom half of the table in his first 2 seasons, so I can't see how he was sacked too soon for not being instantly successful. I see what you're saying but Robson and Gullit, although at the club for five years and one year respectively, were sacked for not being instantly succesful in a particular season, which still demonstrates impatience. The case of Robson could be more worrying for potential managers, as it showed the board's disregard for 3 good seasons in the face of an early season wobble. I disagree, most, I'm sure would agree Robson stayed too long, he'd clearly lost the plot and although the vast majority were sad to see the old boy go, those same people knew he had to go and as for Gullit, he quit after admiting that he'd fucked up, and I'm sure you're not advocating he should have been given more time had he not resigned. I fail to see a track record of unresonably sacking managers too soon at St James' Park

Same place that we are now. People expecting instant success would have caused him to be sacked at the first sniff of trouble. Just remind me because I'm getting a bit confused, when was the last time we unreasonably sacked a manager at the first sniff of trouble due to the expectance of instant success ? Says the man who started an Allardyce Out thread after fifteen games of his reign. Thankfully the board aren't so rash. I'd say the board sacked Robson for not instantly being successful that season btw. If he was good enough to stay at the end of the previous season then they should have persisted with him through that patch of poor form. The point I'm making is that we HAVEN'T got a track record of sacking managers "too soon", and suggestion that no top manager would come to us because of our "reputation" is mad, because in my view we have no reputation, Robson had near on 5 years in charge, and finished in the bottom half of the table in his first 2 seasons, so I can't see how he was sacked too soon for not being instantly successful.

Same place that we are now. People expecting instant success would have caused him to be sacked at the first sniff of trouble. Just remind me because I'm getting a bit confused, when was the last time we unreasonably sacked a manager at the first sniff of trouble due to the expectance of instant success ?

Shame we couldn't just wheel him out on to the pitch everytime the likes of Emre and Geremi are tempted to "attempt" a free kick.

In my opinion he needed to go, but should have been moved upstairs with some dignity at the end of the previous season. The way he was treated was nothing short of a disgrace.

Former Newcastle manager Sir Bobby Robson believes the club's problems can be traced back to his departure from St James' Park. Robson was in charge for five years before being sacked after a poor run of results at the start of the 2004-05 season. Graeme Souness and Glenn Roeder followed but failed to live up to expectations on Tyneside and now Sam Allardyce, only appointed in the summer, is the latest to feel the pressure. After five games without a win Allardyce was said to be one more bad result from the sack before last week's creditable draw with Barclays Premier League leaders Arsenal. Robson told Setanta Sports: "I took the club over when it was bottom of the league and in the last three years I was there it was third, fourth and fifth. We were in the top five for the last three years. "I lost my job rather abruptly, I couldn't believe it. I was stunned, I couldn't believe it. "I didn't lose two consecutive matches and I lost my job, it was crazy. Without being egotistical, the club has suffered ever since. "They are a long way from where they were and where they should be." Newcastle followed up their draw against the Gunners by beating Birmingham last weekend and Robson has seen signs of improvement. The 74-year-old said: "They've had a very mixed season. They had a good start, some people say the best start in 10 years, but that's just a start. "But in some cases they have played very poorly. Recently there has been a slight improvement, they just drew against Arsenal, but they could have won. "For me that was their best performance yet, I was delighted about that. There was a fury and bite about the team and a real passion to win. I was delighted about that." Newcastle face another of Robson's former clubs, Fulham, at Craven Cottage on Saturday. Robson began his playing career with the Cottagers and also had a short stint as their manager in the late 1960s.

I think the phrase is "Drawing an Ace". I'm a stander, and much like after blowing my nose I have to have a look too.

I wouldn't wish that disease on anyone, but I can't stand the prick, his books belong firmly in the "once I put it down I couldn't pick it up" catagory.

She is that. Still would though. Most would tbf. Most probably have !

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Happy Birthday !!!

GLENN ROEDER will make another bid to persuade Newcastle to part with Shola Ameobi. Norwich boss Roeder, sacked by the Toon in May, will move for the striker when the January transfer window opens. But his replacement at St James’ Park Sam Allardyce is adamant nobody will leave next month as Obafemi Martins will be involved in the African Nations Cup. However with Michael Owen nearing fitness and Alan Smith being used as a striker, Roeder is hopeful he can push through a deal. Struggled Ameobi, 26, has hit 28 goals in 166 top-flight games. But he has struggled to establish himself as first-choice up front, with more than a third of his appearances made from the bench. Roeder is also keen on Newcastle defender Peter Ramage, who is currently sidelined after knee surgery. Ramage, 24, will not be fit for another three months but Roeder is prepared to wait until his current deal expires at the end of the season.

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"Give me your prezzies or I'll pull your drip out !"

Yay ! lets turn a blind eye to institutionalised thuggery !

On his way to Norwich

That explains Benitez team rotation policy, its to keep the local burglars on their toes.

Just finished watching the final episode of series 2 of Dexter, fucking awesome !! Bring on series 3 !