Rayvin

So far, it looks like the Tories are rallying around.

Would be somewhat admirable actually although would never happen because the gammons would literally eat him alive.

They are definitely trying to match us stride for stride here. Can only assume every fibre of their club is affronted at our sudden shift past them. Not that we were, IMO, ever beneath them. I can only assume Agbonlahor's influence...!

Yeah wonder if they'll ask him for repayment of all that money we stole from them around the time of their independence.

Is he trying to argue that this would be a worse state of affairs than if we just gave it to City every year instead?

"It is the greatest privilege of my life to serve the party I love - and give back to the country that has given me so much" --Sunak Serves the party first and foremost. Country is an afterthought.

If we can take points off Spurs away and hold City at home, I'm confident that we can beat a few of the traditional top 6 at our place and get a few draws elsewhere. Top 4 still probably not but I think we can qualify for Europe here. Season after should be set up for CL at expense of Manure, Spurs and dare I say it Liverpool.

Ok.

They were told they'd be poorer last time too. The Tories may not have said it, but plenty of others did. You think the Tories are going to tell them they'll be poorer this time? Look I just can't be bothered anymore - you have faith in something, good for you, I shouldn't try to rob you of that. I'll just be quiet.

People voted literally for that very thing in Brexit.

I agree with bits of this but not sure about the identity politics bit. IMO a lot of the noise around that dropped off even before Corbyn, it was something largely attributed to Labour but which isn't actually often visible. What in the Labour manifesto or recent history is particularly digging up identity politics? I think the issue has crossed the aisle again and is now back with the right - everything is woke, it's the evil that never sleeps, etc. Sunak will steady but constrict the economy, but yes that might be enough.

I just have no hope left - total obliteration via that blonde fuckwit was about all I had. Wonder what will be left in 2 years. But yes, let's see what happens.

The polls have him taking 11 points out of that just by taking control.

All the Tories will rally around Sunak because it's what they do time and time again. I mean what are you really saying here, that you think the government will collapse in the next two years? I don't think you are but if it doesn't then yes, they've rallied around him.

People failed to vote with their pockets through austerity 1.0. Do you not remember the Cameron years and how we got here, I sometimes wonder if it's become obscured by the chaos of Brexit. Like I said, I genuinely hope you're right and we see a comfortable, easy Labour majority. If I was the Labour strategist though, I'd now be reaching across to the Lib Dems and SNP to lay the groundwork for that electoral pact. 2 more fucking years, and I'd dared to dream. Johnson is a disappointment in every conceivable sense.

I reckon they'll rally around him because they always do. Cost of living crisis plus austerity. Maybe we'll have all starved to death by the time of the next GE, that could be their plan.

Austerity 2.0 then and 2 solid years of it. Tories to close the gap by 11 points as soon as it goes through. Argument will be - "Rishi spent money to save the country from the pandemic, he's managing the markets now, but he's telling you that he needs to cut back on spending now. It's like your household budget you see..." And people will eat it the fuck up because a household budget is something they understand, and economics is not. I hope the 'Labour win either way crowd' are right.

Utterly amazing result, well fucking done to that team. Love them all. Love Howe. Still can't quite believe that this is what it's like to support a team that actually gives a fuck.

They'd be unelectable in that form though. They need the veneer of moderation to stand any chance whatsoever. If the far right take it, they're just done.

They lost?? I only saw the halftime scoreline Superb.

This too. As if Johnson "loves" this country. All we are to him is a fucking paycheck.

Wow. She absolutely got him for a moment there, no excuses "brown people shouldn't be leaders of traditionally white countries". That was his central point. That said, she also took the term globalist off the table which I struggle with a bit because I am a globalist, or internationalist, and I'm not Jewish I feel like that term has some value other than as a slur.

If Liverpool really are off the boil this season (they are) then you never know... Might start making some wildly optimistic predictions if we get anything out of tomorrow.

Then again...