Rayvin
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I think the closer they get to losing, the more they're prepared to literally try anything.
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Biden has nothing to offer anyway, he's nothing more than a 'not Trump' candidate. The important thing is the symbolism behind trump being defeated. It's the first successful counterattack we've made against the populist right, anywhere in the world.
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Trump has declared victory in PA No basis whatsoever, naturally, but declared it anyway.
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It does feel like we can finally breathe easy. Hopefully this has an immediate knock on effect at our end.
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Did Biden declare victory and then call the whole thing into question? I must have missed that
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Damn straight. I've spent the last 4 years studying his technique. I'll be off to the Supreme Court shortly
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I'm not going to bother getting into this as everyone has had their fun already, suffice to say that one claim I shot down myself and that the overall thrust I was going for was "these are the arguments being put forward". Have at it though
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To be clear, as I thought I originally was, these are the claims being made and which I expect to become central to what their argument
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The other claim...
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I mean, I know I've just checked myself and Wisconsin's total registered voters comes in at 3.6m. Total votes counted is 3.2m. So there goes that claim. But this is the sort of angle that they're apparently going to be pushing I suppose.
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They are circulating through the right wing internet. No idea if they're true but these are the sorts of claims being made.
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There's some worryingly arguable credibility to some of these claims mind you. Which isn't to say I believe them, but there are some questions that may need answering: 1 - 140,000 votes just turned up in Michigan in one bundle without a single vote for Trump. This is being claimed at least - if true, it's weird indeed. 2 - More people have voted in Wisconsin than are registered to vote. So... this is the sort of angle they're going to be taking.
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Yeah I'm hopeful too. Still can't believe how close this is...
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Ok so actually then, a draw means Trump wins.
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That... is weird. So the House would choose Biden and the Senate would choose Pence?? I assumed the popular vote would come in at that point tbh.
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The American way. I can't believe how close this is mind, for all that Biden could make it look clear cut in the end by picking up all these swing states, that would mask how close to absolute tragedy we have come.
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It's actually possible apparently that they draw level. What happens then? Penalties?
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The race stands at 238 electoral votes for Biden to 213 for Trump, with six battleground states outstanding. If Biden can hang on to a narrow lead in Nevada, and seal the deal in Wisconsin, any additional state – North Carolina (15 electoral votes), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) or Pennsylvania (20) – brings him victory. /Guardian
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Maybe so, but they don't look that safe to me based on this evidence.
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Aye this time around but last time I'm convinced Sanders would have won it. Too much well poisoning this time for any real progressive candidate to make inroads. Same as over here really.
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I think so. I know Renton finds it objectionable but I really, really believe that no matter the political stripe of a candidate, people are looking for vision. Biden and Hillary offered none of that. Biden 2020 would have lost to trump in 2016 too, I'm pretty certain of that. The only reason he'll win this (I really hope he wins this) is that people have been able to see how dangerous Trump actually is.
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There probably is an argument to say that avoiding cities dominating everything entirely is worth pursuing, but the extent to which the EC favours republicans is depressing. That said, on this occasion, I'm not sure it's really the issue - the votes (at least so far) look pretty much neck in neck. Can't blame this one on EC I don't think.
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It's an anachronism IMO. It gives weighting to rural states that their populations don't justify to ensure that the interests of farmers weren't overlooked back in the day when farming mattered more. It's the same shit that happens here really. The Tories get an 80 seat majority through the capture of rural, underpopulated constituencies.
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If it is a 'red mirage' it's a damn convincing one. I just looked at PA and trump is 600k ahead with only 2.5m votes left to count. I mean it's possible for sure but it's going to be a case of squeaking over the line rather than crashing through it. Wisconsin also not filling me with optimism, 94% votes counted and Trump 100k up. That's legitimately in "could go either way" territory. Agree that Trump is making all the noises to indicate defeat but this is nowhere near as convincing as it should have been.
