Rayvin

He seems to believe that he wants out, but is following the party line on it, hence the lack of conviction. The EU referendum is set up to be an utter shambles across the board, sadly.

Me? 30. I was mostly thinking of Gemmill with that post.

I'd be up for a night out with everyone, but I reckon most on here are too old for that shit these days

Gents, come on. We can surely all agree that Johnson is a massive fuckwit. What more needs to be said?

I confess that division in the left is rather pointless. For what it's worth, if Corbyn proves to be a bust I'll head back into line again.

Maybe you're right, but I have the hope that the further the Tories push this, the more the fringes become mainstream. I suppose you'd argue that's naive. Maybe you're right but fuck it, we're heading down this path now, may as well stay the course.

I'm not implying equivalence for what it's worth. I would have accepted Burnham. I don't think Old Nulabour=Tories. They still weren't good enough though, the whole bottom fell out of whatever movement they started with. Something new was needed as evidenced by the fact that it happened.

Not disagreeing with that either. But if we continue following pragmatism, based on the evidence of the past 15-20 years, we end up being slowly moved away from the position we all thought we were occupying. This is the wrong thread for this - but I do fully respect what you're saying. I dunno, maybe you're right and idealists are the problem, but I don't think I would do anything differently.

Renton looking increasingly correct with this statement.

Your efforts, and your avatar, are appreciated.

Yep, maybe so. Don't see how that's the idealist's fault though. NuLabour's maybe. Not people who're voting Corbyn because they're sick of the same old shit.

Also possibly for stalking purposes.

Which country is that? Out of interest.

Being fair, no matter which way you colour it, it'll have been killed by non-well meaning right wingers. You can't blame idealists for wanting to make the system better. You can blame the people who vote Tory.

Fucking hell...

Is ohhh_yeah our official news source these days?

I very much suspect you're right. I guess if they do have mass walkouts, it might be painted as a crisis that only privatisation can solve.

He's majorly fucked up that whole thing. There's no winning scenario for the government now - the best hope they had was that he came to some kind of agreement with them, but now there's talk of full on walkouts even across emergency services. How in fuck the government thinks it's going to be able to stand up to people dying for Hunt's ego, I have no idea.

Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing him play. The longer he goes without playing, the more pointless bringing him here was.

Ah I guess if you're buying albums... I tend to buy single tracks for about £0.70p and think little of it. I suppose it all adds up. Google had a service not long ago (which they've since withdrawn, the bastards) where you paid £7/month and could stream youtube music videos on your phone with the screen off, and download them to play offline. They're still running it in the States but it fell foul of some kind of legal thing over here. If it comes back, I think that'd be a good proposition for people like you. Instead of paying £8.99 for an album, you would pay £7 for as many albums as you want each month. EDIT - That said, I assume that this is what Spotify does too. I've not used it but I'd guess the principle is the same.

My point was more that it's got to the point where illegally downloading music is more hassle compared to just grabbing it through Amazon. Prime has loads of free music for instance, most of what you want you don't even have to pay for anyway (technically). The ethics of the situation are entirely up to the individual, but I wouldn't judge anyone for illegally downloading.

Fuck it, forget I said anything.

There's always one...

I seem to recall that the problem with streaming from a prosecutor's point of view is that if everyone is using WiFi then it's really difficult for them to prove that it was your device that accessed the content, and not say, Joe Bloggs in the street just hijacking your connection. That seems to be the argument that people have put forward successfully in the past. That said, it's still better to have proxies in play. I think Netflix has done more to combat illegal streaming than prosecutions. If content was priced reasonably (Netflix) and not mentally (Sky, the Premier League) then they would face much less of this kind of issue. EDIT - the Music industry being a good example of this. Who illegally downloads music these days?

Presumably that's the kind of scenario where you can just update him at half three instead Doesn't sound like an insurmountable resource issue, that one.