Rayvin

What the fuck... Why was the world subjected to their scary ass pillow talk?

Sporting events I think are the only reason. Seemed to be 'the done thing' to sing it at Silverstone, the time I went.

Agreed but at least it's not elevating a living person to godhood over and above the rest of us.

I won't sing it Queen or King on principle. Make it Jerusalem or something and maybe.

Missed this and just posted myself but aye, this is some serious snowflake shit from the right side of the aisle.

I have to say mind, I'm seeing a stunning amount of supposedly left leaning people getting caught up in this - very much demonstrates how significant the cultural impact of the institution is in this country. We are born to be ruled over, it's hardwired into our national psyche. There's an almost cult like devotion to this institution.

They're plebs man, they don't matter. The rich elites have just lost one of their own and we have to mourn her on their behalf.

Aye. We'll just have to make do with the extra bank holiday.

As Alex said though, does give us a few extra days to get people back fit.

The Daily Mail is absolutely beside itself. It's like the leader of their whole cult (witting or not) has just abandoned them. "Heartbroken Britain."

Ah, the mackems have found a way to make it about them. Naturally.

As an ardent anti-royalist, I find myself unexpectedly saddened at this news. Not for her as a person, but for the ever present figure she was in society - the symbol of the UK as much as I disagreed with that principle. We enter a new era with absolute chaos and uncertainty for this country. We really are cut loose now - and with the insanity this country has about royals, who knows what lies ahead, or how this might penetrate the national psyche. It feels like bad news, not meaningless news - a further indication of the collapse of this nation. Maybe I'm just being melodramatic though.

Guardian has just published this clip of Blair vs Cameron on this issue which is, honestly, glorious.

It does, for 6 months.

So she wants the UK to be a net energy exporter by 2040... I missed the detail on this though, is that from fracking or nuclear or what? This is, I suppose, a golden opportunity for the Tories to trash conservation laws to push through a big business agenda at a time it might actually have some public support.

All of that said, if she has a rough winter then none of the packaging will matter. If she rides it out, I think it's going to be a battle.

As I said yesterday, we need to remain vigilant because this is a clear change of tack from Johnson - for all this analysis of 'clear blue sky' between Starmer and Truss, it's the consideration of this between Truss and Johnson that we need to be concerned about. By coming out and saying what she believes in, she has potentially wrongfooted Starmer who is still fighting this battle on a field that is not aligned with his own principles. They will sell her as sincere, willing to make tough decisions, and someone who has a vision for how we should move forward. People want a vision, I've been saying this specific line for fucking years. The fact that she is none of those things won't matter - the packaging the media give her will cut through.

This completely. The game isn't about a series of chained hypotheticals ffs. And since the referee didn't look at the build up anyway by the sounds of it, he had no way of knowing that information in the first place. Waugh is just being contrary. I suppose that makes the show more interesting than if all 3 of them just agreed with each other though.

Just so we're totally clear, when I highlight that she actually formed a cogent argument and stuck to her position on something, and that this fact alone was the greatest departure from the Johnson era - and that we should therefore be wary of the shift in the way in which the battle is fought - you think I'm stressing out over her winning a landslide election. I am clearly not the only person who noticed what I did, as evidenced by the various political commentators and news reports. The encouraging thing for me is that Labour probably noticed it too. I very much hope they're not adopting your attitude and putting their feet up, calling this a formality

Well, that's an encouraging view. I hope you're right - genuinely.

I agree but she has two years to convince them with all the media and corporate interests behind her. Hence my original point being that we should remain vigilant. I think Johnson may have lulled us into a false sense of security about the Tories.

Always love an excuse to post this video too - ultimately propaganda for Truss' view but it's very well made propaganda

Yeah but that's actually a stronger version of the position she's taken. She's watered the intensity of her ideology down, granted, but it's the same one. You're viewing her as another Johnson or even dare I say it a Starmer - someone who will be whatever she thinks the voters want her to be. On the evidence of today, she's actually nearer to a Corbyn. Which might well be music to your ears, frankly.

From the guardian's review of her performance published just now: Truss also marks a very welcome change from Boris Johnson, in that (for the most part) she was willing to answer questions, and engage in an argument about policy and ideas. This, of course, is what is meant to happen. But for the last three years we have been governed by a prime minister much more interested in politics as performance and entertainment, and so it is refreshing to tilt back to ideas. But that is where the whole encounter was less positive for Truss. She won the Conservative leadership contest on a low-tax, small-state agenda that put her well to the right of any Tory leader for a generation. Truss has always been a libertarian (it’s why she joined the Liberal Democrats at university), but during the summer it was never entirely clear to what extent she was just pandering to her party’s cruder, Thatcherite instincts. But now we know; it’s worse than that (to quote an old Westminster joke) – she really does believe it.