Rayvin

People voted literally for that very thing in Brexit.

I agree with bits of this but not sure about the identity politics bit. IMO a lot of the noise around that dropped off even before Corbyn, it was something largely attributed to Labour but which isn't actually often visible. What in the Labour manifesto or recent history is particularly digging up identity politics? I think the issue has crossed the aisle again and is now back with the right - everything is woke, it's the evil that never sleeps, etc. Sunak will steady but constrict the economy, but yes that might be enough.

I just have no hope left - total obliteration via that blonde fuckwit was about all I had. Wonder what will be left in 2 years. But yes, let's see what happens.

The polls have him taking 11 points out of that just by taking control.

All the Tories will rally around Sunak because it's what they do time and time again. I mean what are you really saying here, that you think the government will collapse in the next two years? I don't think you are but if it doesn't then yes, they've rallied around him.

People failed to vote with their pockets through austerity 1.0. Do you not remember the Cameron years and how we got here, I sometimes wonder if it's become obscured by the chaos of Brexit. Like I said, I genuinely hope you're right and we see a comfortable, easy Labour majority. If I was the Labour strategist though, I'd now be reaching across to the Lib Dems and SNP to lay the groundwork for that electoral pact. 2 more fucking years, and I'd dared to dream. Johnson is a disappointment in every conceivable sense.

I reckon they'll rally around him because they always do. Cost of living crisis plus austerity. Maybe we'll have all starved to death by the time of the next GE, that could be their plan.

Austerity 2.0 then and 2 solid years of it. Tories to close the gap by 11 points as soon as it goes through. Argument will be - "Rishi spent money to save the country from the pandemic, he's managing the markets now, but he's telling you that he needs to cut back on spending now. It's like your household budget you see..." And people will eat it the fuck up because a household budget is something they understand, and economics is not. I hope the 'Labour win either way crowd' are right.

Utterly amazing result, well fucking done to that team. Love them all. Love Howe. Still can't quite believe that this is what it's like to support a team that actually gives a fuck.

They'd be unelectable in that form though. They need the veneer of moderation to stand any chance whatsoever. If the far right take it, they're just done.

They lost?? I only saw the halftime scoreline Superb.

This too. As if Johnson "loves" this country. All we are to him is a fucking paycheck.

Wow. She absolutely got him for a moment there, no excuses "brown people shouldn't be leaders of traditionally white countries". That was his central point. That said, she also took the term globalist off the table which I struggle with a bit because I am a globalist, or internationalist, and I'm not Jewish I feel like that term has some value other than as a slur.

If Liverpool really are off the boil this season (they are) then you never know... Might start making some wildly optimistic predictions if we get anything out of tomorrow.

Then again...

Meaning we gain our first non-white Prime Minister. Wonder how the Tory membership will feel about that. And of course, austerity on steroids.

Staggering.

Great post - Completely agree. They do nothing except make everyone's lives harder and introduce needless suffering for the sake of them and their friends being a bit better off. I fucking loathe them with you.

Sunak supporters coming out in some force atm, not much at all for Johnson unless the ERG is still debating which way to go there.

That was superb

A great force for political good I can't even respond to that. Fucking hell.

The only concern with that is the suspension thing is so obviously in front of him, why is it not being seen by those voting for him?

I don't think there's anyone they have now that has any real intellectual standing or ability. They've gone through the bottom of the barrel and are chiselling into the earth.

Really pleased for him - he seems like such a genuine guy who isn't afraid to love and appreciate those around him, and what he has. I really hope he's part of this club for years to come tbh.