Renton

http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...ts&CODE=leaders 150512[/snapback] Cheers. Guess it's never really bothered me who does what because imo it works brilliantly on this forum, no complaints here. Mind, Hugh, David, and Archie could up their post count a bit.

So who are the admins/mods on this board anyway? I thought it was: Admins: Craig, Gol (so only one admin) Mods: Jimbo, Matt M4 But Alreetlike (hardly ever posts) is also a mod? And is JawD's confession BS? Got to admit, I saw the change of Ratboy's post too, but can't help thinking if he has buggered off then it's certainly an example of the means justifying the ends. Edit: and peasepud of course, never sure if he is admin or a mod though.

Wondering how the described video was nsfw, now I know.

How do you think the Human Rights Act got through in its present format ? They are concerned about the privacy of you and me, of course. The phrase "you and me" includes ALL people, including unidentified terrorists. MP's will have their own views on this, just like me and you. You put freedom before security, I put security before freedom, because I think there is no real freedom if there is inadequate security. The Bill is to help the security services identify these terrorists, not become a police state as you claim. Some MP's will also be very much aware of the fact that these terrorists would very much like to blow them up while they are walking into the very building you mention. Being closer to this sort of thing rather than just read about it would tend to have a sobering effect on your view of it, although some may naively believe it won't happen to them. 150377[/snapback] Alright lads, mind if I join in? I'm going to anyway, just though I'd be polite about it though. Some questions for LM: How much do you actually know about the Human Rights Act, "in it's present format" or otherwise LM? Have you read it? Would you prefer we had no Human Rights? I quite like having Human Rights, myself. How much first-hand experience of terrorism do you have? How much of that is "Islamic" terrorism? Personally I have none, zero, fuck-all, just like almost everyone else in this country. Of those that do, nearly all of them only have experience of "Irish" terrorism. So for me terrorism is a tiny insignificant little issue because it's highly likely that it is NEVER going to affect me in any way!!! Actually that's not entirely true, is it, because it is going to affect me, isn't it. Some people with highly dubious motives are going to use it as an excuse to do what they've always really wanted to do and remove some of my Human Rights. The very same Human Rights, that I actually quite like, and they've managed to con people like you into thinking they're protecting. That's the ACTUAL threat from terrorism, not getting blown-up, poisoned, or shot - well not by the terrorists, anyway - the threat to our way of life, the threat posed by "OUR" government and their dubiously motivated mates. What do you reckon? PS: If you think security is more desirable than freedom, you'd be pretty safe from a terrorist in prison, why not get yourself locked-up? Protective custody and all that. 150421[/snapback] Oh no! Another loony lefty sandal wearing beardy weirdy fancy Dan know nowt do-gooder! Good post btw, I agree with your sentiments entirely. Can we swop Leazes Mag for your (N-O's) much more reasoned poster, NE5?

I was going to answer Leazes' last post, but I don't think I could do any better than Peasepud (which for obvious reasons I'll not quote). Leazes is probably in the pub now with his buddies, proving he has a life. Everyone hide under their beds when he comes back.

No Bridget, I haven't said anything about myself. And I am not going to. If Renton hadn't started insulting me just because he disagreed with me, and harping on about his "qualifications" I think its fair to say, that I wouldn't have mentioned them either. Draw your own conclusions. 150341[/snapback] Oh FFS, I thought you'd agreed to stop obsessing about me, you sad, sad man. This thread has been going downhill from the minute Leazes started it. Still, it's clarified a few things. Mainly that you're thick as pigshit. (cue tut tut, insults from one so intelligent etc....).

but you don't KNOW. Whatever. I was happy to debate it too. Renton started the abuse towards me, insinuating he was "cleverer" because of his "qualification". However I have said I will stop arguing with him/deservedly taking the piss. Thats what debate is isn't it ? Giving opinions ? You have yours, I have mine. I think I have debated our opinions with you .... 150253[/snapback] I think you are the only person who got this impression Leazes - I would suggest you are paranoid, and obviously have a huge chip on your shoulder about people who have gone to University (evidenced by your laughable comments anout people who "read books" or "fancy Dan" lecturers). Whatever, it's your problem, not mine. Glad we have come to an arragement that we will ignore each other. It's for the best. 150266[/snapback] How do you know what, where, or how I was educated ? Not the mark of an intelligent person, Renton, to assume you know me when you don't. My comments about fancy Dan lecturers are exactly that. Opinions made by people who have little experience of the real world, and no they are not all so insular. Just the ones who are Ex CND supporters, left wingers, anti west protesters. Clueless. One trait they also have is the need to point at qualifications to prove how "intelligent" they are. Whatever. 150273[/snapback] So I'm not one of them then. Whatever.

Just tried another Compact Flash card, and that doesn't work either. So it's the camera that's knackered, out of warranty. Still, maybe I will be able to get my images back after all.....

but you don't KNOW. Whatever. I was happy to debate it too. Renton started the abuse towards me, insinuating he was "cleverer" because of his "qualification". However I have said I will stop arguing with him/deservedly taking the piss. Thats what debate is isn't it ? Giving opinions ? You have yours, I have mine. I think I have debated our opinions with you .... 150253[/snapback] I think you are the only person who got this impression Leazes - I would suggest you are paranoid, and obviously have a huge chip on your shoulder about people who have gone to University (evidenced by your laughable comments anout people who "read books" or "fancy Dan" lecturers). Whatever, it's your problem, not mine. Glad we have come to an arragement that we will ignore each other. It's for the best.

Well I followed that link and read through to page 8, what I found read slightly different to that. Renton comes on and says "HTL advocated x,y and executing children iirc", 3 pages later HTL comes on and questions it where Renton replies with "I honestly thought you were amongst those advocating stringing up the Bulger killers who were children at the time, if Im wrong then sorry for any offence" Followed by HTL completely ignoring this and stating "from your posts I reckon your a paedophile" If you're going to use links as proof in arguments then you need to check their validity to your argument. That link clearly shows Renton have a valid query re HTL and child executions, HTL ignores it and abuses Renton with the paedo shite. 150194[/snapback] What's also relevant I feel is that I admitted winding HTL up and over-reacting to the comment, although that doesn't excuse it imo. The upshot was, I apologised, he apologised, and the thread was history, until LM started to shit stir. I don't think HTL even lurks on here anymore, but if he does, I'd just like to re-iterate that I have nothing against him and, for me at least, those comments are history. It's inevitable that some insults are going to get thrown when people have very srtongly opposing viewpoints, but at least HTL had the ability to read and actually comprehend what other people were saying, and didn't constantly invent stuff they have supposedly said. Which is more than be said for Leazes; this being a case in point. 150203[/snapback] I am not shit stirring anything. You are a hypocrite. You started insulting HTL, and myself in this thread. I didn't invent anything, you made your own remarks of your own accord. At the end of the day, you may have "medical qualifications", but they don't necessarily mean you know what you are talking about when you talk about matters concering the defence and security of the country. 150209[/snapback] You're obsessed, you need help. The only person that gives a toss about my qualifications is you, for the record here is the one and only time I mentioned them, in response to a post by Alex which in turn was in response to your assumption that everyone's viewpoint who disagreed with you was formed with the input of their "fancy Dan" lecturers: So you see, I state that my education makes me qualified in certain medical matters, nothing else - it is your paranoia that is making you think otherwise. Of course, this has been explained to you 6 times, both by myself, Peasepud, and Meenzer, but you are seemingly unable to take this on board. As for the HTL stuff, you reckon you're not shit-stirring? Yeah, right. I didn't insult HTL once in that thread, I wrongly associated something that was said on the old board with him, and as soon as this was pointed out, I retracted my statement. But the point is, YOU said I called HIM a paedophile, when the reverse was true. Do you fancy apologising for that? No, didn't think so. In case you haven't noticed Leazes, I don't wish to partake in any form of discussion with you, but at the same time, I don't want to sit by and let you post any shit you want about me. And I am sick of your obsession and insecurity complex with me. I'm sure it is patently obvious now to everyone on this board what a sad case you are (is there anyone you haven't insulted or abused?), but you never know, a new member may think your lies are true. So my suggestion is you stop your obsessional rants against me, and I put you on ignore (I suggest you do the same). Does this sound like a reasonable approach to you? 150222[/snapback] I thought you had put me on ignore ? Or have you put your toys back in the pram ? I am not bothered in the slightest about your "qualification", I think its highly amusing you think it makes you an expert in anything you seem to wish to make a comment on. You must be the one who is obsessed with it, otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to mention it. You're doing a decent job not resorting again to the abuse that you started though, keep it up. 150231[/snapback] Jesus wept. I've explained my need to answer you in the post you quoted - I want to ignore you, but I'm not letting you get away with telling lies about me - like you claiming I called HTL a paedophile. Stop mentioning me in posts, stop making stuff up, and I will stop replying. What reason is there for us to continue arguing? I think you're an idiot, the feeling is mutual, so let's stop it there. Btw it has been explained to you 7 times that the reasons qualifications have been brought up was because I AGREE with you they are not relevant. Your refusal to understand this very simple point though, and YOUR constant obsession with them, bringing them up in virtually every post you make, highlight your lack of intelligence and your inferiority complex. You really are a sad case, why don't you go down the pub (after all you have a life), whinge about the loony lefties to your BNP buddies, and come back and be abusive on here this evening? That's the usual course of action you take, isn't it?

Well I followed that link and read through to page 8, what I found read slightly different to that. Renton comes on and says "HTL advocated x,y and executing children iirc", 3 pages later HTL comes on and questions it where Renton replies with "I honestly thought you were amongst those advocating stringing up the Bulger killers who were children at the time, if Im wrong then sorry for any offence" Followed by HTL completely ignoring this and stating "from your posts I reckon your a paedophile" If you're going to use links as proof in arguments then you need to check their validity to your argument. That link clearly shows Renton have a valid query re HTL and child executions, HTL ignores it and abuses Renton with the paedo shite. 150194[/snapback] What's also relevant I feel is that I admitted winding HTL up and over-reacting to the comment, although that doesn't excuse it imo. The upshot was, I apologised, he apologised, and the thread was history, until LM started to shit stir. I don't think HTL even lurks on here anymore, but if he does, I'd just like to re-iterate that I have nothing against him and, for me at least, those comments are history. It's inevitable that some insults are going to get thrown when people have very srtongly opposing viewpoints, but at least HTL had the ability to read and actually comprehend what other people were saying, and didn't constantly invent stuff they have supposedly said. Which is more than be said for Leazes; this being a case in point. 150203[/snapback] I am not shit stirring anything. You are a hypocrite. You started insulting HTL, and myself in this thread. I didn't invent anything, you made your own remarks of your own accord. At the end of the day, you may have "medical qualifications", but they don't necessarily mean you know what you are talking about when you talk about matters concering the defence and security of the country. 150209[/snapback] You're obsessed, you need help. The only person that gives a toss about my qualifications is you, for the record here is the one and only time I mentioned them, in response to a post by Alex which in turn was in response to your assumption that everyone's viewpoint who disagreed with you was formed with the input of their "fancy Dan" lecturers: So you see, I state that my education makes me qualified in certain medical matters, nothing else - it is your paranoia that is making you think otherwise. Of course, this has been explained to you 6 times, both by myself, Peasepud, and Meenzer, but you are seemingly unable to take this on board. As for the HTL stuff, you reckon you're not shit-stirring? Yeah, right. I didn't insult HTL once in that thread, I wrongly associated something that was said on the old board with him, and as soon as this was pointed out, I retracted my statement. But the point is, YOU said I called HIM a paedophile, when the reverse was true. Do you fancy apologising for that? No, didn't think so. In case you haven't noticed Leazes, I don't wish to partake in any form of discussion with you, but at the same time, I don't want to sit by and let you post any shit you want about me. And I am sick of your obsession and insecurity complex with me. I'm sure it is patently obvious now to everyone on this board what a sad case you are (is there anyone you haven't insulted or abused?), but you never know, a new member may think your lies are true. So my suggestion is you stop your obsessional rants against me, and I put you on ignore (I suggest you do the same). Does this sound like a reasonable approach to you?

Well I followed that link and read through to page 8, what I found read slightly different to that. Renton comes on and says "HTL advocated x,y and executing children iirc", 3 pages later HTL comes on and questions it where Renton replies with "I honestly thought you were amongst those advocating stringing up the Bulger killers who were children at the time, if Im wrong then sorry for any offence" Followed by HTL completely ignoring this and stating "from your posts I reckon your a paedophile" If you're going to use links as proof in arguments then you need to check their validity to your argument. That link clearly shows Renton have a valid query re HTL and child executions, HTL ignores it and abuses Renton with the paedo shite. 150194[/snapback] What's also relevant I feel is that I admitted winding HTL up and over-reacting to the comment, although that doesn't excuse it imo. The upshot was, I apologised, he apologised, and the thread was history, until LM started to shit stir. I don't think HTL even lurks on here anymore, but if he does, I'd just like to re-iterate that I have nothing against him and, for me at least, those comments are history. It's inevitable that some insults are going to get thrown when people have very srtongly opposing viewpoints, but at least HTL had the ability to read and actually comprehend what other people were saying, and didn't constantly invent stuff they have supposedly said. Which is more than be said for Leazes; this being a case in point.

That's correct, it was HTL that implied I was a paedophile, not the other way round. This has been pointed out FOUR times now, but still Leazes completely rewrites history and shit stirs, I see, and shows an amazing amount of hypocrisy in the process, even by his standards (re Dotbum's post). I take it Leazes you are now saying HTL should be banned from this board? 150165[/snapback] You entered this topic at page 4, totally without mention, and insinuated that HTL was happy to advocate killing children. http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...opic=2364&st=60 150182[/snapback] Who said this? Shame I have had to temporarily unignore you as I see from others posts quoting you that you still you constantly feel the need to tell lies about me; the sooner you stop obsessing about me the better for both of us I reckon. Oh, btw, what is you're opinion on what should have happened to Thompson or Venebles? HTL denies advocating capital punishment in their cases, which is fair enough, but I know someone on here has stated they should have been hung, and if it wasn't HTL, you seem like a pretty likely candidate.

That's correct, it was HTL that implied I was a paedophile, not the other way round. This has been pointed out FOUR times now, but still Leazes completely rewrites history and shit stirs, I see, and shows an amazing amount of hypocrisy in the process, even by his standards (re Dotbum's post). I take it Leazes you are now saying HTL should be banned from this board?

Before this thread is closed, can I nominate it for BROWN ?

Obsessed! 149726[/snapback] Subliminal messages tbh.

Your viewpoints on anything are worthless to LM apparently, because of your viewpoints on Bellamy. Another stunning incite into how LM's mind works. 149584[/snapback] I'm weeping for your editor tbh. 149727[/snapback] I am shamed.

Just how many beardy wierdys do we have on this board?

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149661[/snapback] Wouldn't put it past you tbh. Don't try it with a V3 though..... 149663[/snapback] still at what Jonny implies, but if its what i think it is, then im not a bloody 13 year old!! Hubby can just about manage to use his phone for calls, thats about it. 149665[/snapback] I'd bloody well hope 13 year olds don't do this! The Nokia 7280 is probably the best model for this sort of thing..... Don't forget to set it to "vibrate".

149661[/snapback] Wouldn't put it past you tbh. Don't try it with a V3 though.....

Had 2 tickets that I'm not renewing, for various reasons, and have had NOWT, ZIP, NADDA from the club 149493[/snapback] I bet you get something eventually though, before the TV ads start.

I hope you suggesting he goes as a successful suicide bomber 149656[/snapback] Be interesting to see what the reaction would be if he did that, or even if he got to the party without being shot. Actually I was thinking Alec Guinness, but there are loads of others. Most famous people with beards are dead: FACT.

Do dead people count?

Missing winky smilie alert - the source of many a confusion.