Renton

You're right it's wrong to have a go at him personally for his injuries, something I have done and which I apologise for. However, you have to question the logic of signing a player who is injury prone with money we can't really afford. I know his previous set backs have been fairly minor, but the fact is he has a poor injury record overall and consequently has never scored 20 league goals in a season. We put all our eggs in one basket and bought a trophy player, partly to appease the fans into renewing season tickets, although I agree we were desperate for a striker. Now we are paying the price. Now, what happens if he never really recovers? Similar injuries have happened to Shearer and Van Horsehead, but they have more to their game than Owen and didn't rely on pace as much. Worst case scenario is we're kissing good bye to the thick end of £25M.

Owen was braver though, I remember Shearer screamed when he did his, Owen just seemed to fall to the ground with no expression on his face. Weird. 151511[/snapback] Aye, when you watch the slo-mo replay, he just looks down at his knee as if to say "That can't be right", but he never even flinches. NAILS! 151522[/snapback] The annoying thing is both these injuries occurred aparently for no reason off the ball in matches that meant little for NUFC. I mean, Owen just seemed to be standing one minute, next he's extending his sabattical for another 6 months! Jesus Wept.

He acted like a petulant child. For God's sake, he's supposed to be a grown up. If I went round kicking desks everytime something went wrong for me at work, what do you think people would say? This is the perfect illustration how people think that it is acceptable for footballers to behave below the normal levels of common decency. I may talk shit at times, but I find you highlighting that particualr sentence astounding. 151421[/snapback] If you screamed "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! FUCKING GET IIIIIIIIIIIN!!!" and ran to the corner of the room and did a robot dance every time something went right at work, I suspect your colleagues would have something to say too. Are you getting how being a professional footballer and being a medical writer doesn't really bear comparison? It's nothing to do with common decency and everything to do with things being taken in context - he was annoyed and he showed it with a petulant strop. It looked a bit silly, but I wouldn't have said it was outside of the realms of decency or anything. 151426[/snapback] Alright, the comparison isn't perfect, but neither is yours. Of course players are going to celebrate when scoring a goal, it's part of the emotion and has entertainment value. However, only certain players act like twats when subbed. He was playing shite, it was for the teams benefit and his he was subbed. He acted like a twat, showing no resppect for the other subs or his manager. If you disagree then fine, I take it you're happy if every player acts like a primadonna when they are subbed from now on. 151432[/snapback] It's part of the emotion in the same way that celebrating a goal is man. You can't expect them to be full of good emotions when they score and then emotionless robots when things don't go so well. Yes, I've conceded he looked a bit daft, but I could understand his frustrations - he's come back from injury and knows he's better than he's currently capable of playing, and it must be incredibly frustrating. He let it show and I don't think that's a crime. 151436[/snapback] I just think it goes to show Rooney is not in control of his emotions, he's a loose cannon. Pampering him isn't going to help. Not that I care, hopefully he will continue to go into full self destruct mode for ManU. 151440[/snapback] Get a grip man, he took his boots off in too angry a fashion for your delicate sensibilities? 151446[/snapback] Get a grip man, I made one comment about "twattish" behaviour (imo of course), and I get all this grief! I don't care!

Read a few posts up! 151443[/snapback] Isegrim's usually a bit more accurate than that. I'm not sure there will be a contingency fund of several million quid to cover Owen's wages. Pretty sure this is one reason Ferguson kicked up such a fuss about Rooney.

It's Shearer all over again. Sign one of Europe's top strikers, he cattles his knee and is never the same player again. The curse of NUFC strikes again. 151439[/snapback] There are a few differences - Shearer's determination and committment to the club ensured he was an asset to us pretty quickly. I really can't see the same in Owen. And for a player who's main asset is pace, this injury may be even more significant.

He acted like a petulant child. For God's sake, he's supposed to be a grown up. If I went round kicking desks everytime something went wrong for me at work, what do you think people would say? This is the perfect illustration how people think that it is acceptable for footballers to behave below the normal levels of common decency. I may talk shit at times, but I find you highlighting that particualr sentence astounding. 151421[/snapback] If you screamed "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! FUCKING GET IIIIIIIIIIIN!!!" and ran to the corner of the room and did a robot dance every time something went right at work, I suspect your colleagues would have something to say too. Are you getting how being a professional footballer and being a medical writer doesn't really bear comparison? It's nothing to do with common decency and everything to do with things being taken in context - he was annoyed and he showed it with a petulant strop. It looked a bit silly, but I wouldn't have said it was outside of the realms of decency or anything. 151426[/snapback] Alright, the comparison isn't perfect, but neither is yours. Of course players are going to celebrate when scoring a goal, it's part of the emotion and has entertainment value. However, only certain players act like twats when subbed. He was playing shite, it was for the teams benefit and his he was subbed. He acted like a twat, showing no resppect for the other subs or his manager. If you disagree then fine, I take it you're happy if every player acts like a primadonna when they are subbed from now on. 151432[/snapback] It's part of the emotion in the same way that celebrating a goal is man. You can't expect them to be full of good emotions when they score and then emotionless robots when things don't go so well. Yes, I've conceded he looked a bit daft, but I could understand his frustrations - he's come back from injury and knows he's better than he's currently capable of playing, and it must be incredibly frustrating. He let it show and I don't think that's a crime. 151436[/snapback] I just think it goes to show Rooney is not in control of his emotions, he's a loose cannon. Pampering him isn't going to help. Not that I care, hopefully he will continue to go into full self destruct mode for ManU.

I'm unsure of your point. We are much less likely to get Malbranque, as we now need another striker to replace Owen and still have to pay Owen's wages. If Carr goes we will need another RB too. 151433[/snapback] If we were compensated for six month's wages this would equate to around £2.5m. I think we'd be after Malbranque regardless of Owen's injury, I just think we're trying to hold on to the cash as long as we can. 151437[/snapback] Who's going to compensate us though?

I'm unsure of your point. We are much less likely to get Malbranque, as we now need another striker to replace Owen and still have to pay Owen's wages. If Carr goes we will need another RB too.

He acted like a petulant child. For God's sake, he's supposed to be a grown up. If I went round kicking desks everytime something went wrong for me at work, what do you think people would say? This is the perfect illustration how people think that it is acceptable for footballers to behave below the normal levels of common decency. I may talk shit at times, but I find you highlighting that particualr sentence astounding. 151421[/snapback] If you screamed "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! FUCKING GET IIIIIIIIIIIN!!!" and ran to the corner of the room and did a robot dance every time something went right at work, I suspect your colleagues would have something to say too. Are you getting how being a professional footballer and being a medical writer doesn't really bear comparison? It's nothing to do with common decency and everything to do with things being taken in context - he was annoyed and he showed it with a petulant strop. It looked a bit silly, but I wouldn't have said it was outside of the realms of decency or anything. 151426[/snapback] Alright, the comparison isn't perfect, but neither is yours. Of course players are going to celebrate when scoring a goal, it's part of the emotion and has entertainment value. However, only certain players act like twats when subbed. He was playing shite, it was for the teams benefit and his he was subbed. He acted like a twat, showing no resppect for the other subs or his manager. If you disagree then fine, I take it you're happy if every player acts like a primadonna when they are subbed from now on.

He acted like a petulant child. For God's sake, he's supposed to be a grown up. If I went round kicking desks everytime something went wrong for me at work, what do you think people would say? This is the perfect illustration how people think that it is acceptable for footballers to behave below the normal levels of common decency. I may talk shit at times, but I find you highlighting that particualr sentence astounding. Isegrim, I understand that because he was injured for England, we stand to get no money from our insurance - is this correct?

Alright, I'm being harsh and unfair, but I really feel resentment over the fact that he has made it abundantly clear England is his priority. Meanwhile, we foot the bill. This is devestating news for NUFC - I feel the season is over before it's started. As you know I couldn't give a fuck about England or Owen's aspirations for the national team. The only thing I care about is NUFC, and for whatever reasons, be it bad luck or mis-management, the Owen signing is proving to be a disaster. Also as regards sympathy, I reserve that for normal people who have to struggle to get by when they are sick, not to people who are earning !20 grand a week with the best medical help money can buy. We idolise these players like they are some kind of Gods, that they're pain is worse than us mere mortals. We forgive twattish behaviour like Rooney's last night on the basis "we can't understand what it must be like". Well yeah, it must be really hard to be financially secure by the age of 20 making a living out of what you love most.

I'm not. He's been injured playing for the only team he cares about. Meanwhile we are going to stuck with his extortionate wages while he suns himself. The sooner he fucks off the better imo, and he can take Dyer with him.

Not a fan of tats on the lasses tbh. ATM? 151255[/snapback] arse to mouth 151257[/snapback] Nothing to do with going to the cash point then?

Well it's working now, but that's not much good is it? 9 - 5 should be made priority people!

What's the matter with this shit-tip? Up and down more than a mackem lass's knickers in the Bigg market at the moment. Get it sorted admin, it's embarassing.

Regarding "the incident", I know who I believed more at the time - the runt, not the *nast word that catmag dont like (sorry for my language but I still feel bitter at the thought of Souness and what he has done to us, and btw, JW, is this board now censored?). But anyway, forget that, as has been pointed out, the sale of Bellamy did not have to inevitable, as loaning him to Celtic proves. On his return, it should have been obvious to even the biggest idiot that Souness had to go (which meant Bellamy could have stayed), but he didn't. The buck stops at Shepherd, who though his own complete incompetence has set this club back at least 5 years. And only an idiot can't see that.

Ours were after the letters in ANSELms. My other post was referring to "houses" you were put in for the purpose of merits/sporting achievements etc. I take it those were dropped?

Aiden, Cuthbert, Oswin, and Bede at mine.

A vacationing penguin is driving through Arizona when he notices that the oil-pressure light is on. He gets out to look and sees oil dripping out of the motor. He drives to the nearest town and stops at the first gas station. After dropping the car off, the penguin goes for a walk around town. He sees an ice-cream shop and, being a penguin in Arizona, decides that something cold would really hit the spot. He gets a big bowl of vanilla ice cream and sits down to eat. Having no hands, he makes real mess trying to eat with his little flippers. After finishing his ice cream, he goes back to the gas station and asks the mechanic if he's found the problem. The mechanic looks up and says, "It looks like you´ve blown a seal." "No, no," the penguin replies, "it's just ice cream."

No better than a ticket tout. SCUM!

With an IQ of 69, what exactly was he going to do with it? Probably couldn't tie his laces, let alone make a bomb. And then to use him as an informant - is this really the best the intelligence services can do? Jesus wept tbh.

What is your knowledge/experience of British intelligence? 150573[/snapback] Don't. Seriously, don't.

It would appear, in this case at least, that a lack of intelligence, and not a lack of anti-terrorism legislation, is to blame.

188 posts so far, which is exactly double what I have made at this exact moment in time (I'm in second). Number of questions directly answered in this time? Probably less than 5, I reckon. Still, it's along way off the Shepherd postathon with NE5 on N-O.