Renton

So when Robson came and we beat Sheff Wed 8-0, you didn't think, hmm, maybe it was for the best we lost against Sunderland? Presuming of course that he would have stayed if we had won, because undoubtedly he would have. I hate to tell you this NJS, but you don't have the power to ban me for life for thinking differently to you. I appreciate I am not a proper fan like you for wanting what is best for the club long term, but there you go. Once again, I hope we win, but there's more to my life than being devestated if we lose this one, especially since I think it might be ultimately for the best.

So, I take it you would have been happy if Gullit had won, Robson had never came, and shearer and Lee were sold then? I want us to win, but I know this is only one game, and tbh it doesn't mean as much to me as a normal derby match - I can see a loss could ultimately be greatly beneficial to us. So what if a few mackems take the piss? After the match in the rain, didn't we have the last laugh? Yes, we did. Do I want to watch this shit week in, week out, for the sake of one match? No, I don't. As for relegation, have a look at Scottish mag's other thread. The only way we are going to be relegated is if this clueless clown and entourage stay at the club. I suspect it will be a boring negative draw, and Souness will just keep his job. He'll be gone by Christmas though. 46358[/snapback] You're missing the point of whats being said though, all I want is for us to appear united for the next week, not sit slagging off the manager/ each other. As NJS points out, anyone who isnt fully behind the team shouldnt be there. Simple as. We can all have our views, some valid, some shite, but for the next week we should stick to being positive and look forward to beating them. If you're so sure that we're going to be beat then why go? does it not hurt you so much that our bitterest most vocal rivals could turn us over in front of your eyes and make sure you know it that you'd rather stay at home and wash the car? My bettings not..... 46364[/snapback] Fair point peasepud, of course I will give the lads my backing 100% while I'm there. And I'll try not to post any negative stuff beforehand. But when NJS says that anyone who isn't devestated if we lose should be banned for life, then I'm going to have to disagree. I wasn't devestated after the Gullit match, and I won't be this time if the worst comes to the worst either. I'm sick and tired of watching this shite!

Wasn't Robson sacked?

So, I take it you would have been happy if Gullit had won, Robson had never came, and shearer and Lee were sold then? I want us to win, but I know this is only one game, and tbh it doesn't mean as much to me as a normal derby match - I can see a loss could ultimately be greatly beneficial to us. So what if a few mackems take the piss? After the match in the rain, didn't we have the last laugh? Yes, we did. Do I want to watch this shit week in, week out, for the sake of one match? No, I don't. As for relegation, have a look at Scottish mag's other thread. The only way we are going to be relegated is if this clueless clown and entourage stay at the club. I suspect it will be a boring negative draw, and Souness will just keep his job. He'll be gone by Christmas though.

40 points from 38 games = relegation form. FACT. Souness out!

Players seem to take longer than average to mend here for some reason, not sure why mind.

Wigan were organized - they had shape, passion, and belief, something you will never see from a Souness team. Yeah, we were unlucky with some decisions, but that's the way it goes. Some people only see the decisions that are bad for us - I can assure you we get our share of dodgy decisions too. A draw today would have been a fair result, but is that good enough? No, it's not. I'm sick of the excuses - Souness out, now!

The last time I can really remember being ecstatic after a game I wasn't even there - it was Feyenoord away in the CL. On reflection, since then, its been downhill all the way, but before that match, I often had that feeling. I don't expect to even enjoy games nowadays, it's a bonus if I come back not feeling conned/angry/depressed or just purely apathetic and resigned to the situation.

Well at least you admit it.

To be fair, that would have given away the answer somewhat....

when it comes down to a re-allocation of money, or what you consider it better spent on, it's entirely relevant. We all do it with our own lives and how we run our lives. People do come here and sponge. And we would be better off spending it on better public services. 46049[/snapback] I don't see why you have to bring immigration into it though. I haven't got the figures, but I am fairly sure 95% of dole scroungers are UK citizens, especially in this region. Don't forget that illegal immigrants, the ones that are most villified, can't claim by definition. And the ones that are legal exist on a pittance, much less than our indiginous charver trash that are now virtually unemployable, and breeding like rabbits.

Ah reet, the calendar. I was thinking it might have been celebrated on May Day as that has Socialist connotations iirc. 46008[/snapback] A wild guess in other words. Glad you're not in my pub team....

I have answered all your questions. Are you a closet Thatcherite for the reasons previously stated..on the other hand, there is no need ! 45969[/snapback] "Or put to building new ones....so there is your answer as to who pays for it ..." So how much are YOU willing to pay in increased taxs? EXACTLY??? Are you a christian ANSWER 45973[/snapback] Can't you read, I told you I was a Christian, but with all due respect to those who go to church regularly, I don't. Happy now ? Some things you cannot put a price on, public safety from terrorist scum, muggers, anyone who is a danger to the public. I would pay more taxes for this, a proper health service, education, all the things which a civilised country should encompass. Not for the welfare of those who only come here to scrounge though..and there you have part of an answer, kicking them all out would help quite a bit too I would say. I can't answer the question of how much because I am not chancellor of the exchequer. You see Rob, I only have certain opinions, whether others agree or not is everyones prerogative, because these things are of interest to me and concern me, but saying "leave them alone they haven't broke any laws" is simply the attitude of a bury your head in the sand I'm all right Jack in my opinion. You have shown yourself to be a closet Thatcherite, along with double standards by your venom towards McKeag as "he broke no laws" other than shitting in your nest, now THAT bothers you, correct ? 45978[/snapback] Tbf LM, everything is ultimately a matter of money. I don't think you're helping yourself with the veiled xenophobic comments here either: the old "they come here, and take our benefits" is frankly bollocks and anyway, has nothing to do with the present discussion.

Because she was shit? 45950[/snapback]

Yup.... It could be done, but it would involve a complete hack around with the database schema something I neither have the time, nor the inclination to do. 45865[/snapback] Listen to his spiel man. Total geek speak. 45910[/snapback] Aye well if I didn't 'geek speak' this place might not exist! Anyway Scrooge, ain't you got some pennies which need counting? 45924[/snapback] He's a corporate accountant who deals in billions apparently...... 45925[/snapback] It's true you plum! You were trying to suggest I was some sort of shyster personal tax accountant, so I simply put you right. 45932[/snapback] I just thought you could do AF a favour... I find it a bit worrying that a man in charge of the finances of international companies posts so much on here mind.

Yup.... It could be done, but it would involve a complete hack around with the database schema something I neither have the time, nor the inclination to do. 45865[/snapback] Listen to his spiel man. Total geek speak. 45910[/snapback] Aye well if I didn't 'geek speak' this place might not exist! Anyway Scrooge, ain't you got some pennies which need counting? 45924[/snapback] He's a corporate accountant who deals in billions apparently......

Depends on if they really want him given his age, and whether they can afford to pay him enough so he can retain his 'dignity'.

It's a good film, but slightly overrated. I reckon Full Metal Jacket was better. Apocalypse Now was on again the other night. Now that is a film. 45880[/snapback] Sorry, I meant Apocalypse now. 45884[/snapback] JWTBQFH 45888[/snapback] Schoolboy error. Brando was fucking awesome in it to be fair. Stole the show for me. Excellent anti-war message. Can't wait for the educational computer game shoot em up simulator. 45889[/snapback] Vietcong 2 is out shortly for Xbox and PC. Lets you kill gooks or yanks with equal impunity. Can't say fairer than that. And its so real you can almost smell the napalm, and if you play online, you might even be lucky enough to 'kill' someone from SE Asia.

Touching the void last night on More Four. Documentary film about how a mountaineer survived against all odds to climb down a 20,000 foot mountain with no food, water, or cover with a shattered leg. Brilliant film, totally awe inspiring and uplifting. The pain that man must have gone through to survive goes beyond words. I'm sure 99.999% of us would have given up and died in his position, I know I would have.

Maybe it has already been done but we don't know about it. I mean, it's not going to be legal, is it? Scary thought like. 45860[/snapback] I forgot about Peter Reid like....

You read my mind. She's an 80 year old hag who's done all the harm she's ever going to do. I was going to turn this into a poll but this forum doesn't haver the facility ( ) Who'd you prefer to die? I'd much prefer George Bush, OB Laden or Rupert Murdoch to die. The shits who are still fucking with things. 45473[/snapback] 45834[/snapback] Funny thing is, its right next to the new post button.

Nee bother hinny! 45843[/snapback] Bit of trivia bonnie lad - a hinny is the offspring of a male horse and a female donkey. I.e. like a mule except the gender is vice-versa. I think the term of endearment comes about because a lot of pit ponies were hinnies and the miners used to like them. 45845[/snapback] So can you jave male and female hinnies and mules then? I know they're infertile but are they knackerless? 45850[/snapback] Aye you can have both sexes of mules and hinnies but they can't reproduce as they're sterile. I think the males have knackers though 45851[/snapback] How come you can have zorses, tigons, ligers, mules, hinnies, beefalos, etc but not manimps or chans? After all, we're supposed to be closer related to a chimpanzee than a horse is to a zebra. Also, how come we can't reproduce with chimps but on startrek people can mate with Klingons and Vulcans which evolved light years away? Btw, I don't want to mate with a monkey, just to get that straight....

Nee bother hinny! 45843[/snapback] Bit of trivia bonnie lad - a hinny is the offspring of a male horse and a female donkey. I.e. like a mule except the gender is vice-versa. I think the term of endearment comes about because a lot of pit ponies were hinnies and the miners used to like them. 45845[/snapback] So can you jave male and female hinnies and mules then? I know they're infertile but are they knackerless?

I'm sure you don't have to read up on it Rob, judging by most threads on this board you've either been there or done it or have got the T-shirt. 45653[/snapback] 45677[/snapback]

I'm sure you don't have to read up on it Rob, judging by most threads on this board you've either been there or done it or have got the T-shirt. 45653[/snapback] Sexual deviency has never appealed to me TBH 45667[/snapback] My problem is that you can only be so devient on your own ! 45670[/snapback] Depends on your anatomy. Can't about 1 in 400 men commit autofellatio?