Renton

Even the top two are demonstrably lies.

Musk said he wanted to change the name of the English Channel this week to the "George Washington" channel. He was probably joking, maybe not, I don't know, but either way, coming out with shit like that is not going to make the gammons happy.

Looking at the comments, I can't find a single one that is supportive of Brexit. You can't rank by "most disliked" though which might reveal some.

Did Mick ever get his Mars bar back?

I was told planes can fly by themselves nowadays. Not sure about Black hawk helicopters mind.

"One thing we do know, there was a lot of vision, and people should have been able to see that"

Is this some weird malevolence or is he genuinely insane at this point? Which is more scary? I mean this man does have the nuclear football. We have years more of this shit to endure unless he pegs it. I don't care what anyone says either, you can't escape it.

A smackhead who only eats the finest organic unrefined food. Got to hand it to Welsh, the observational wisdom of the man came out even in his darkest characters.

Yeah, well said. I know Gemmill means well but I don't like being criticised for talking politics on a politics thread. Back on topic, I salute people like Caroline Kennedy for doing the right thing. She eviscerates him here. I mean I know not everybody works in healthcare and that maybe kids dying of infectious diseases in the US is not of interest to some of us, but the conspiracy bullshit this cunt peddles is fundamental to what we are witnessing now, even the UK, to a lesser extent. So it should be of interest.

I binged the first series. Nearly gave up after E1 but glad I stuck with it once the characters were established, I enjoyed it. Some familiar faces from Shameless including a daisy fresh James McAvoy. References to Jimmy Savile.... When I watch stuff like this I just think where the fuck did the time go? Definitely simpler and happier times I think, although how much of that is me getting older or things getting genuinely worse I dunno.

Because it will protect me personally against whatever mad shit move Trump does next? And if I were completely unaware of the extent of the madness of his presidency, which some people on here frankly appear to be, then I couldn't proactively react in this way. I too have deactivated twitter. Musk won't care, it will have almost no affect on him at all. But I do, and that's what matters there.

I can make a change though, I can get different employment. Application forms being completed tonight. And anyway, I accept completely I can't change things in a wider way. Who here has ever said they can? But there's nothing in that AA maxim that says remain ignorant about your situation, in fact, that's almost the opposite of what they mean. Stay aware and mindful of the situation you find yourself in is pretty key with alcoholism. Anyway, I am entirely aware that toontastic is mainly a place for shits and giggles as the World burns, so I'll leave it there.

Not remaining ignorant is better than nothing. Imo, of course, I know you disagree. I'm not criticising you for that, I'm criticising you for criticising me.

I hope people know that I enjoy a laugh as much as the next person. But trivialising stuff like this (in this specific context) I find a bit worrying. I actually completely ignore the DEI for reasons you state - doesn't affect me. But these minority groups are now literally under attack from their government and for them - my colleagues - it is frankly scary. We all know the poem "First they came for...". I've made meme like jokes using this myself on occassion. But when it literally starts unfolding in the US in front of our eyes, it's like we can't put 2 and 2 together. COncentration camps on Guatanamo bay - not my problem. I find "the rest is politics" probably the best balanced podcast on these matters - I only listen to that and the Newsagents now (and I listened to Dunt on Origin story the other day). They are all clear about the US situation and how our media is complicit in trivialising it. On a practical level now, for me, will Trump start gunning for employees of American companies working and paying tax in other countries? Its a distinct possibility imo. Anyway, I made a post about Perter Mandeson. If you haven't seen it or don't have an opinion, don't engage. But don't make a virtue of your ignorance on it and tell us about your latest pop music podcasts (directed at Gemmill, not you). This is the politics threads, serious posts and funny ones all welcome.

I'm going to have MH issues regardless. People ignoring the rise of fascism on a population level were a major fucking issuein the 1930s I'm afraid to tell you. Anyway, I'm impacted directly by Trump as I work for an American company. They're really into DEI initiatives and as a consequence now under direct threat from the government. I am proud they are resisting the threats so far. But who knows what is in store down the line? So I'm informed enough to know I really need to leave for a UK employer, even if that means a paycut (it will). There's a direct real life example of how this affects us.

I know, you've told us several times. It's all our personal choice ateod, I see things differently and want to remain informed e en if it impacts my MH. Just the way I'm wired, I feel the need to know what's happening whereas you're happy not to. But what I don't get is why you feel a need to implicitly criticise those with a different mindset on a thread that is specifically about politics? On one level, if you wilfully stay ignorant you're not contributing much. But on another I personally feel you're symptomatic of a wider issue in which the large majority of people turn a blind eye to what is happening around them, including the obvious rise of fascism. We know where that leads.

Yeah, listened to it yesterday. I find it really informative.

BTW, was there ever a more sickening sight than Mandelson today? Have some self respect you creepy fucker. If that's a requirement of the ambassador job, fuck the job. It's horrendous seeing EVERYONE cowtow to this orange cunt.

Is the issue with FoM within Europe? I can see what the issue is with the external borders but doesn't Germany have something like 12 land borders and countless roads with other countries? And it's massively integrated. I can't see check points springing up everywhere.

Yeah, you're a plum.

This an enactment of Gemmill and me?

This place sounds fantastic!

He's mates with the scouse lad.