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Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Fat bastards like me live out of Subways, Burger King's and Costa Coffee's when I'm away working in London. Like mancmag says you go in these shops in London and they're running round like they're on speed, the noise is incredible. The nearest Subway to my work. 7 people in a line, one fucking about doing fuck all looking like a manager, one cutting the bread, one putting the meat on, one putting your salad on, one putting the mayonaise on, one beside the oven, two at the till, one of them fucking about with the water and crisps. All in a line like battery hens. Was the same people every day, two Indians I'd guess, two Somali's maybe, two Poles one of them fit as fuck, and maybe a Turk, and all of them were like battery hens grafting like fuck. That type of immigrant is what we need, grafting like fuck for £7 an hour doing jobs clearly white people don't want to do in the City, you can't slag them or fault them for that, and generalise that they're all cunts. and the type of immigrant we don't want is what Stevie ? At the end of the day, the daft arsehole says I haven't been anywhere, but I bet I've seen a lot more of the world than he has. He simply can't admit when he says something wrong, which is why he clings to me in the way he does. Laughable and pathetic. Anyway, I'm trying to stick to what I said to trophyshy so don't want to go OTT about this just now. The type of immigrant I don't want is the kind that wants to completely alienate themselves from British society. You can't expect immigrants who come here to integrate straight away though. Muslims in the East End are examples of bad immigrants not all, but many happy to stay in their own groups preach that this should be a muslim state, support terrorism etc... they're all fuckin wronguns, but that is less than 50% of them, and they are the worst kind in my view. In London though which is probably the hardest place to integrate yourself with it being such an international hub, you see immigrants who can hardly speak a word of English walking the streets in Arsenal tops, 99% of them aren't enemies of the state and do jobs indigenous British people don't want to do. With 2.5m on the dole, it's the wanky governments responsibility to shut the door and not the immigrants themselves who come here to make a better life for themselves. At the end of the day, blood stock wise I'm largely an immigrant, there was fuck all in Ireland apart from horses and tatties, the tatties fucked up so 1.5m had to leave to survive and better themselves. I generally agree with that. What a shame wankers have to spout off about the Daily Mail simply for applying such common sense rather than closing their eyes to what is an increasing social and economic problem ie an over populated country and all the financial impacts it brings. Is this arsehole really a solicitor Please highlight-by way of quote-anything I said that contradicts what Stevie's just typed. Go on.

Getting trounced here like, I'm £20 down already

Aye European stuff looks 'classier' than yank stuff. I'd say Private is my favourite production house. Rita Falatonio (Sp) is probs my fave at the moment Thought she was Italian . Viv Thomas is better than Private imo - he makes good british stuff as well. Not her real name, I'm guessing. VT is canny good like tbf. Nice thread hijack as well, although not the first one. Answer Wacky's thread question or GTFO tbh.

why, are you thinking of moving to somewhere in the middle east ? Does Amanda Lamb still present Trading Places btw? Was she ever on that Scottish Widows advert incidentally?

Because the Japanese aren't as poor as the blacks in New Orleans - look up the correlation between crime and poverty. Why are there high crime rates in the North East when there are virtually no blacks? you should have said that to wacky instead of following me around like an obsessed idiot. You should put more effort into your studies and try and work out the damage an overpopulated country and high immigration will do to it. We aren't a rubbish tip for the rest of the world, even your little mind should be able to see this. No blacks in the NorthEast ? haha, now you are confirming that you are out of touch and a clown to go with it. Because I think declaring that all immigrants are "wrong 'uns" is a bit more serious that Wacky's jokey comment. If you think there are an appreciable number of blacks in the NE compared with other urban areas in the the UK than I can only assume you have never, ever visited another city. Somehow, I don't think wacky means that as a joke, but of course you can tell him you know his own mind better than he does himself. Like I've said to mancmag, your last few words are a joke, but I don't need to justify myself to a do-gooder brainwashed clown like you. Probably not but he gets away with in my view because he doesn't try and justify it with bollocks like you. How many black kids were in your year at school or your kids if they went to school up here? When I was in the fifth year (1980) there were no Asians and one black kid (a doctor's son) in the entire school - what do you think are the figures for London, Bristol, Liverpool or Manchester in comparison? what bollocks is that ? Why don't you answer him instead of me ? You didn't say anything about comparisons by the way, you said there were no blacks in the North East, which is complete rubbish, then you say I am not talking facts ? You couldn't make it up man. You're not doing a bad job tbf. What a complete disaster of a man.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Fat bastards like me live out of Subways, Burger King's and Costa Coffee's when I'm away working in London. Like mancmag says you go in these shops in London and they're running round like they're on speed, the noise is incredible. The nearest Subway to my work. 7 people in a line, one fucking about doing fuck all looking like a manager, one cutting the bread, one putting the meat on, one putting your salad on, one putting the mayonaise on, one beside the oven, two at the till, one of them fucking about with the water and crisps. All in a line like battery hens. Was the same people every day, two Indians I'd guess, two Somali's maybe, two Poles one of them fit as fuck, and maybe a Turk, and all of them were like battery hens grafting like fuck. That type of immigrant is what we need, grafting like fuck for £7 an hour doing jobs clearly white people don't want to do in the City, you can't slag them or fault them for that, and generalise that they're all cunts. and the type of immigrant we don't want is what Stevie ? At the end of the day, the daft arsehole says I haven't been anywhere, but I bet I've seen a lot more of the world than he has. He simply can't admit when he says something wrong, which is why he clings to me in the way he does. Laughable and pathetic. Anyway, I'm trying to stick to what I said to trophyshy so don't want to go OTT about this just now. Not being funny here, but how is this me with the ego problem exactly? Comprehension problems, to go with your stalking problems It reads like a 5 year old is what I meant.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Fat bastards like me live out of Subways, Burger King's and Costa Coffee's when I'm away working in London. Like mancmag says you go in these shops in London and they're running round like they're on speed, the noise is incredible. The nearest Subway to my work. 7 people in a line, one fucking about doing fuck all looking like a manager, one cutting the bread, one putting the meat on, one putting your salad on, one putting the mayonaise on, one beside the oven, two at the till, one of them fucking about with the water and crisps. All in a line like battery hens. Was the same people every day, two Indians I'd guess, two Somali's maybe, two Poles one of them fit as fuck, and maybe a Turk, and all of them were like battery hens grafting like fuck. That type of immigrant is what we need, grafting like fuck for £7 an hour doing jobs clearly white people don't want to do in the City, you can't slag them or fault them for that, and generalise that they're all cunts. and the type of immigrant we don't want is what Stevie ? At the end of the day, the daft arsehole says I haven't been anywhere, but I bet I've seen a lot more of the world than he has. He simply can't admit when he says something wrong, which is why he clings to me in the way he does. Laughable and pathetic. Anyway, I'm trying to stick to what I said to trophyshy so don't want to go OTT about this just now. Not being funny here, but how is this me with the ego problem exactly?

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Fat bastards like me live out of Subways, Burger King's and Costa Coffee's when I'm away working in London. Like mancmag says you go in these shops in London and they're running round like they're on speed, the noise is incredible. The nearest Subway to my work. 7 people in a line, one fucking about doing fuck all looking like a manager, one cutting the bread, one putting the meat on, one putting your salad on, one putting the mayonaise on, one beside the oven, two at the till, one of them fucking about with the water and crisps. All in a line like battery hens. Was the same people every day, two Indians I'd guess, two Somali's maybe, two Poles one of them fit as fuck, and maybe a Turk, and all of them were like battery hens grafting like fuck. That type of immigrant is what we need, grafting like fuck for £7 an hour doing jobs clearly white people don't want to do in the City, you can't slag them or fault them for that, and generalise that they're all cunts. Aye, forgot to add that the Polish females are often ridiculously fit, too.

Too late, he's gone.

Because the Japanese aren't as poor as the blacks in New Orleans - look up the correlation between crime and poverty. Why are there high crime rates in the North East when there are virtually no blacks? Were there not many blacks in the Meadow Well riots then ya reckon? Surely it was swarming with em man! Jesus wept, Leazes.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Cliches and catchphrases tbh. Was wondering how many you'd be able to squeeze in. PS your opinion of me is i) irrelevant to the debate, and ii) irrelevant to me, so you need to abandon that one as it doesn't advance your argument. why don't you answer the first post in the debate then, instead of stalking me....it kills you to be shown you are talking bollocks doesn't it, which is why you do it. See the sentence in wacky's post "why aren't the japanese looting and killing each other like the blacks were when hurricane katrina hit?" This is the truth, and you know it, but can't admit it because you label it as "racist" don't you ? Pathetic. Eh? What's that got to do with me pulling you up on something you said about immigration to the UK? I haven't got a fucking clue how Hurricane Katrina is linked to that statement and I don't know why you would expect me to make the link. Are you for real in asking that btw? It's just another daft distraction technique of yours that you employ tbh. "Don't quote what I've said, answer the thread title' etc etc." Stop being a child telling people what to answer man, I posted directly in response to your assertion about UK immigration, showed it to be a false statement and I literally have no idea what hurricane Katrina has to do with that. Explain how it does if you like, obviously.

I felt that I was being generous when I said it was probable there was parity. In fact I would be amazed if they weren't lower tbh.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up. hoho. I don't read the Daily Mail, as you stalk me so much you should have read me posting this many times. I've seen enough of the world sonny, thank you. Save your namby pamby liberalism for someone else. At the end of the day, screaming "racist" at people who can see the direction the country is going and are concerned about it, is the act of a laughable leftie tosspot who sits in an ivory tower, brainwashed and a blind fool. I don't know where you think you are a smart lad, because for me you're just a complete idiot with an ego problem who can't even admit when they are wrong. Cliches and catchphrases tbh. Was wondering how many you'd be able to squeeze in. PS your opinion of me is i) irrelevant to the debate, and ii) irrelevant to me, so you need to abandon that one as it doesn't advance your argument.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum obvious even to a blind man. I was down in London this week and practically anybody who serves you in food jobs etc or any low paid service industry is an EC (former Eastern bloc) or third country worker. The overwhelming majority are here grafting. To call them all 'bad uns' is laughable and based on nowt more than the Daily Mail's fabrication of the truth. A smart lad like you should get yourself out there and see it for yourself rather than being spoon fed what to think by the media. There are some 'bad uns' but broadly speaking as a percentage base they'll mirror UK indigenous 'bad uns'. Any non-British national (individually) in breach of the law should be considered for deportation. That's a perfectly fair and proportionate position to take and I don't think anyone would disagree, but your starting point generalisation (above) is just racism at the end of the day whichever way you dress it up.

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. I've always said Australia and particularly America are our naughty kids who have turned in to right wronguns. unfortunately, import all the bad 'uns and you go the same way, like the UK is doing. etc etc ad infinitum

Different culture mate. While the Japanese are currently facing hell on earth, here in Australia a 101 year old lady has her watch and shopping money stolen by a pair of middle aged men who obviously preyed on her and waited for an opportune time to nail her. A 95 year old blind woman gets bashed and robbed and an 80 year old bloke coming home from watching the movies gets pummeled and is left lying on the middle of the road. On the weekend a few coppers get blood spat in their face for trying to break up a fight. Do all Australianisms for physical violence sound so comical?

Heard he was back in the Magistrates' court recently on drugs charges and sounds like the house search was along the same lines. In the words of 'Police Officer', whatever they were looking for I'm sure his hiding place was superior. Sad to watch that video back now tbh.

did you just say a scout having a say in who the manager buys is bullshit Cheers that has really made this a good monday! On a more serious note, if a scout doesn't understand our team tactics, and the manger does not discuss tactics with the scout, how can he go out and find the right players to meet the criteria. On the other side of things, scouts do not have the sole job of player recruitment, they are sent to view up and coming opposition, to advise on oppostion tactics and therefore who they think may counteract the threats of the opposition. It is ultimately the managers decision but its not like a manager goes to one game in advance and then knows exactly what he is going to do. Opposition are scouted for weeks in advance to give the manager the best opportunity of picking a team that will come out of it with a decent result. Managers rely heavily on scouts, much more heavily than on coaches at the club, they are responsible for providing the manager with enough, solid information with which he can do a good job. So a scout comes back to Fergie/Wenger/Ancelotti and says this kid looks good. The manager then goes along to a couple of games himself to see what he thinks. If he's not impressed he doesn't buy him. Did you go to the Dennis Wise school of scouting!? 'Here Kev, look at this youtube vid, he's yours whether you want him or not!' Scouts suggest players to the manager, it's up to him if he wants to buy them. I think you are seriously overestimating the input scouts have into a club. Most of them have very informal arrangements with a club anyway! I think the dynamics begin to change slightly when your main recruitment policy is acquisitions via your scouting network rather than going after established/big money transfers mind. For instance in Pardew's situation he might be told it's one of Graham's shortlist or nowt. And I can actually see that being the case.

A girl drinking Brown Ale? Not liking that image one bit. Do you smoke a pipe too? Our lasses sister drinks it too. Think she thought I'd be impressed about it. Quickly set her right on that one. You've got to take a firm hand, Craig.

*shudders* Can't knock that attitude though tbf

A girl drinking Brown Ale? Not liking that image one bit. Do you smoke a pipe too?

Re: that Harry Taylor sentencing, it would've been more useful to know what his sentence was the first time around I suppose. Of the little information there it's obvious that it's a second offence (for the same thing). Also in ref the second offence, it was a continuous act (3 occasions), which is a further aggravating factor. This is where it all gets a bit daft tbh. I'm not that arsed either way so haven't even read anything about the case (the fact Leazes was the author of the thread being the main reason for that I confess), but it might be that this muslim dickhead had never done anything wrong before in his life. By contrast this Harry Taylor might be a career bell end for all I know. It does at least go to prove the point about having proper sentencing tariffs and guidelines rather than the system Leazes was (only half) jokingly proposing however. On the more general point though (best summed up by Chez @ post #31), yes I think there is an imbalance between the way religious and cultural sensitivity is handled in law which is hard to justify. This then seems even more incongruous when you consider that most of the drivers for legal censure are probably cultural rather than purely religious. For instance lots of things which might outrage one muslim wouldn't necessarily outrage the next and therefore it can't really be said to be Islam or Christianity (or whichever) that is offended, but some cultural group who associate themselves with the religion. It'd be different where the Vatican or Mecca was banging out edicts criticising UK domestic law directly obviously, but that doesn't seem to happen very often. *PS KSA, I realise in citing that Harry Taylor example you were only making a limited point directly in response to Happy Face, I wasn't trying to take apart your broader position on the matter.

"anti-west"