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There's no decent estimate, and it's widely believed that all estimates they do have are massively under-represent (because of the very crude methods used). There's at least 8m that would refer to themselves as "muslim" and could easily be double or more that would refer to themselves as that. The yearly immigration figures show that 2.4 million figure to be total rubbish, even if no muslim ever immigrated to the USA prior to 2003. (so I guess the pretty large west coast influx of the 70's never happened) So basically you made the figure up? Nice one. Nicely ignoring the rest of my post as well. Nope estimates vary, but given the yearly influx since 2003 2.4m is clearly wrong, there's 8m at least. Where are you getting this 8-15m figure from then? Not that it alters my original point. A range of between 8-15 million and you dare question it's reliability!

It's not that insignificant and ironically many vote republican traditionally. He knew what he as doing and played it very well (sorry to shatter his White er.. Black er... Inclusive Knight persona ). Fair enough, remove the 'totally' bit from what I said and replace it with largely and I stand by what I said. Regarding the bit in bold, I didn't buy into that anyway or a lot of his other rhetoric. But it doesn't really have much to do with my point anyway. I agree mostly with what you say about him. I think he'll end up just like everybody else once they get in, hence my previous 'Tommy Carcetti' quip. I just think, in terms of votes, he would have had much more to gain by making it far clearer he wasn't a Muslim (perhaps I'm doing the US a disservice there though, I'm just guessing) than the ambiguity/clever manipulation I think you're accusing him of. There aren't that many Muslims in the US. They aren't concentrated in terms of population like the Jewish population in New York which waters down their influence even more. Many US muslims are African-American converts who would have voted for him anyway. The remaining Muslims would surely have tended to favour a Democrat given the last 8 years under Bush and so on. Well 8-15 million isn't going to win it (even with a very high turn out), but any sensible politician knows that all votes count in one way or another. But I do think he was clever with it, he did deny it enough to for it to not be an issue with the main vote, but left enough to allow the muslim population to believe what they wanted to believe. He did the same with his "race" (he's "Black" when he needs to be and "White" when he needs to be - when in fact he's Blite or Whack ) to be honest, and his policies. Which does make what he will do quite interesting in a way. Politician in 'being a politician' shocker. Stop the presses. He's the first black president in history. The rest is just details tbh. Which is, exactly my point, he's not. Right, well you obviously know better than the vast majority of African Americans who accept him as such. But then of course you would.

It's not that insignificant and ironically many vote republican traditionally. He knew what he as doing and played it very well (sorry to shatter his White er.. Black er... Inclusive Knight persona ). Fair enough, remove the 'totally' bit from what I said and replace it with largely and I stand by what I said. Regarding the bit in bold, I didn't buy into that anyway or a lot of his other rhetoric. But it doesn't really have much to do with my point anyway. I agree mostly with what you say about him. I think he'll end up just like everybody else once they get in, hence my previous 'Tommy Carcetti' quip. I just think, in terms of votes, he would have had much more to gain by making it far clearer he wasn't a Muslim (perhaps I'm doing the US a disservice there though, I'm just guessing) than the ambiguity/clever manipulation I think you're accusing him of. There aren't that many Muslims in the US. They aren't concentrated in terms of population like the Jewish population in New York which waters down their influence even more. Many US muslims are African-American converts who would have voted for him anyway. The remaining Muslims would surely have tended to favour a Democrat given the last 8 years under Bush and so on. Well 8-15 million isn't going to win it (even with a very high turn out), but any sensible politician knows that all votes count in one way or another. But I do think he was clever with it, he did deny it enough to for it to not be an issue with the main vote, but left enough to allow the muslim population to believe what they wanted to believe. He did the same with his "race" (he's "Black" when he needs to be and "White" when he needs to be - when in fact he's Blite or Whack ) to be honest, and his policies. Which does make what he will do quite interesting in a way. Politician in 'being a politician' shocker. Stop the presses. He's the first black president in history. The rest is just details tbh.

So basically they didn't actually do it, he did sleep with her and......... all comedy is now outlawed in the UK? (no wonder Brown was against it, anti-terrorism laws to be used against Rory Bremner by the end of the week ) Does that sum it up? R.I.P. English comedy. That's the thing, I don't particularly like Brand (his radio 2 show can be funny though), or Ross either (although again he's ok at times). But I think this whole episode has much more to do with comedy bigotry than anything they said or did. Que? Something akin to internet bullying no doubt.

Tintern Abby 'tis an Abby! etc.

Toonraider is a mag, is a mag, is a mag Toonraider is a mag, she hates scousers! You're always slagging them off KUTGW I am a Mag I'm sure there are many very lovely scousers, I just dont like their accent and as I've said on here before we are over-run with them in Torquay, now becoming known as the 'Scouse Riviera' and I'm not joking! I think the Scouse accent sounds good on a girl and comical on a bloke tbh.

Anyone from the islands off Scotland. They fluctuate between Scottish, Irish, Welsh and Norwegian and as a result sound thick as fuck.

Fulchester United have always had NUFC referenced stories IIRC. The Chairman, Wynyard Hall was Sir John Hall just off the top of my head, but theres been loads down the years.

The most annoying bell-end going this dickhead. Everytime he's on the screen I'm just praying for some cyberman to send him sprawling and then give his face the millimetre tread for good measure. Sorted.

Reckon it'll end up a draw tbh.

Whatever happened to JJ?

Fish would have weighed in stripped to the waist, with Bonnie Tyler's "Holding out for a hero" blazing.

Jesus, look at those adidas four stripe!

Actually on second thoughts: He's got his damages claim coming up after all.

Happy 30th you rhastclart!

Unless you're Gerrard or Lampard. Towards the end of the first half against Kazakhstan, I predicted Capello would bring Barry off and leave the Siamese twins on (caus he didn't have the balls to take one of them off instead); lo and behold.... Capello is the last person I'd accuse of not having balls tbh. Bet your wife loves you like. If she wants to keep the credit card yes. So she wears the trousers then.

shouldn't have a go at rio. he is one of the only players that actually performs True dat. http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/38719 A rapper from Burnage-this is set to eclipse everything Oasis ever did to put M19 on the map. On Jim Davidson's old record label as well. PS Ferdinand raps: "This is Rio Ferdinand.... 10 year-old-into-a-tape-recorder-tastic. Probably kept his fingers on 'record' and 'play' as he did it.

shouldn't have a go at rio. he is one of the only players that actually performs True dat. http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/38719 A rapper from Burnage-this is set to eclipse everything Oasis ever did to put M19 on the map.

There's not really been a test though, Croatia was lucky (it could have gone the other way several times - although you do need luck, of course) and pub teams don't count. So just about every base covered there, basically.

you shitty-fingered bastards!

It would be completely mental to go into a case like that having given away everything you intend to say and do. Keegan's not a moron and I would hope he has better legal advice than that too. The only sane option for Keegan is to say nothing until it's dealt with, only a complete f*ckwit wouldn't be able to see that. Hard work, as I said, if he loved the club he wouldnt be taking this to court full stop. What would he do then? has it been confirmed or is it just rumours? tbh

He should sue the fuck out of the club tbh-it will only bring Ashley's sale price down anyway.

bastard.

As I've said before though he'd be happy marking pacy players of Henry's ilk each match. Pace was never his problem. 'Pacey' surely, Bernard Manning.

Unless you're Gerrard or Lampard. Towards the end of the first half against Kazakhstan, I predicted Capello would bring Barry off and leave the Siamese twins on (caus he didn't have the balls to take one of them off instead); lo and behold.... Capello is the last person I'd accuse of not having balls tbh. Bet your wife loves you like.