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Thankyou HTT. Eye opening. What was the 1st Tyne-Wear derby? Have Sunderland ever been the top team in the area? i.e. champions when NUFC was struggling or cup winners when NUFC got dumped out early (when the FA cup meant more)?

When was the 1st Tyne-Wear derby? Have Sunderland ever been the top team in the north-east? Did more players used to play for both clubs 'in the old days?'

Stories sweeping the city of a training ground injury sustained by Michael Owen seem to have further depressed an already down-beat support following Saturday's poor show. However we understand that the England striker pulled up after feeling a hamstring twinge and his involvement in Tuesday's training session was curtailed as a precautionary measure. Hopes remain high that Owen will still feature in his first Tyne-wear derby on Sunday, but a safety-first approach saw Ameobi pulled out of Tuesday's reserve team defeat at Birmingham in case he picked up a knock. Got it from .com

Were the Mackems also once Scottish as i'm told the Geordies were?

'English' people tend to be a mix of all sorts but i'm led to believe, due to the proximity of Lindesfarne, that more than usual of the blond haired, blue eyed white devils make up your populace, can the same be said of Sunderland? My history is really rocky here so no extra offence intended were the people of Newcastle and Sunderland involved in the Jarrow march? Was it for the whole region? As your industries were so similar, were you similarly affected by Thatchers attitude to British industry? Did you feel unfairly treated together or was there no sense of solidarity?

What is the basis of the rivalry? To be controversial, you guys sound practically identical to me. Do the 2 cities have similar histories? Did you used to have similar economies? I understand Newcastle is far more developed now. Do you think you have more in common culturally than that that actually differs? Do you really have more in common with each other when you think about it as compared to Geordies and another city/town? Is it genuine hatred or friendly rivalry? Was the rivalry forgotten during the WW11 and did the 2 cities help each other? It always seems to me that the more similar 2 groups of people are, the more fanatical the opposing sides i.e. protestants & catholics or sunni's & shia's. To outsiders it's hard to see how these people can't get along when so much of their lives and behaviour is nearly identical and they get ferverent over a few minor differences, can this be applied to the Newcastle - Sunderland divide? Bring it on!

Now i think about it, Boumsong does that a lot. It works against Henry because Arsenal didn't have another striker for Henry to flick it off to. No one making the run beyond Henry. I'm not too fond of Boum's decision making, needs to read it a bit better imo.

Parker was closing him down tbh. 47161[/snapback] I saw the game live and haven't watched any replays but i do remember Francis running into the box with Roberts pulling out to his right leaving Taylor with a difficult decision, i do not remember Parker being between Francis and the goal so if he was closing him down i reckon it was from behind or to the side. I think Taylor had no option but to go towards the man with the ball who laid it off perfectly. I think Elliott should have been more aware and covered Taylor, i also don't know what Boum was doing running off and leaving a massive hole behind him. Poor decision making imo.

What leads you to jump (wrongly) to that conclusion? I've never thought Shola was good enough to be our number 9. And for the record I think Souness has had his chance, but I don't see the point of getting rid of him nine games into the season unless we have someone lined-up who is guaranteed to be interested in coming here and guaranteed to do better. Who fits into that catergory? I don't think Shepherd is the perfect chairman either but I do find it churlish to moan that we haven't signed a back-up striker after he spent the best part of £40 million on five quality players in the summer. Who is to say who we might or might not buy to fill that role in January? To think that you can have everything you want when you want is the mind-set of a spoilt child. 46862[/snapback] What i feel sure of is that no one could do worse than Souness, even Mike Bassett so i'd go for a change. Nobody can guarentee anything, all you can do is look at their past performance to predict their future one. Souness has done f**k all in the league last season, has picked up where he left off this season and has never done anything in the league at Liverpool or Southampton either. I don't conside getting Blackburn promoted a tremendous acheivment. If he need's to have his expensive players on to get a result then he's nothing more than a cheque book manager. Nothing can be acheived by keeping him so give someone else a chance if only for the rest of the season, they couldn't do anyworse.

Nobby must have more than a dead leg for Christ's sake......... How long is off for?

Or advertising 46974[/snapback] I'm telling you, i'm wasted otherwise Might get one of you lot to write me a recommendation that i can take to Greggs, from what i can gather, some of you are regulars...

I wanted to start this post this morning and i was gonna call it : The 'Url of Sandwich I should be in journalism tbh.

I think people should be free to post whatever they like. I don't agree with censorship.

Serenity was excellent, some cracking dialogue and one liners, action, fights and everything else you'd expect from Joss Whedon writing and directing. 46692[/snapback] Can't wait for the sequel.

Saw 'Serenity' on saturday night. Liked it. Good dialogue and good fight scenes.

Now i think about it, when are we gonna get a BLACK BOND? He wouldn't be drinking martini's He wouldn't be driving them cars without proper alloy wheels He wouldn't take any shit from that uppity ho, Glenda Jackson Browning 9mm puh! Uzi...............x2 Any other obvious changes?

Surprised Jude Law didn't get it, maybe he's too young looking.

I can't believe a big man is sooo weak! Also why doesn't he use that weight to bump or lean on a striker when he's running side by side with them? It's probably that weak-as-piss northen beer ee's 'avin to guzzle instead of our hearty suvern brew innit

Carver's not at the club now, is he? If you're going to make an external appointment, I'm sure you can do better than that. 46614[/snapback] No, he's not at the club anymore. 46617[/snapback] Haaaaaactually, what i'm suggesting is, he's cheap, passionate about the club and could be no worse. I suppose it's rhetorical suggestion if such a thing exists I know he's not here but FS is obviously not keen to employ anyone with proven talent.

Emre - did more in 45 than the rest of them Shearer - it was played to his bonce much more than to his feet and won most of it Bowyer - did more than anyone else in 30 odd minutes than anyone else to deserve 3rd.

Sorry to post now. I saw the game on telly but couldn't email until today. I thought this would happen, predictable. As had been said on here, i thought we did well to keep to a 0-1 defeat as Wigan had key ingredients we really lacked: i) A workable game plan. I could see no real pattern to our play, no obvious tactics where you can tell that the manager has told the players certain moves, runs, etc. Commonly called TACTICS. ii) A real desire to show for each other, to try and be available for the man on the ball. And to track back and cover, where was the midfield when Francis waltzed through and Boumsong went for another walk about leaving Taylor to decide, do i close the man down or mark Roberts? iii) Confidence in the managers decisions and each other that they can actually get a result. iv) Actual individual footbal intelligence, the ability to improvise if your 1st plan goes nowhere. We hoofed the ball up to Shearer who won a fair bit tbh. Did we profit from it? No. Either his knock down's were misdirected or Owen's runs were well off, whatever, they didn't remotely click. They're not compatible. Did we try something different? Only Emre, wtf were the other players thinking the rest of the time? Do they actually believe they're own hype? They finished bottom half last season and look like doing it again. v) Substituions, Ameobi was soooooo woeful, just unbelievably poor. If his form has been so this season, why expect him to suddenly play differently when under pressure? No inspiration, no belief = no chance. Normally i wouldn't think getting rid of Souness would help much at this stage of the season, i've changed my mind. It's easy to say, 'what good would it do to sack him now?' I ask this, 'what good does it do to keep him on?' If we can't find an ideal replacement now i'd ask John Carver to take over, loves the club, actaully has up-to-date coaching qualifications and most importantly, COULDN'T DO ANY WORSE.

Yep, if they're frightened of him it should give the rest a bit more space to play because Wigan will rely heavily on closing down. Of course we may get lucky like we did at Blackburn and stuff them after being run ragged

Small squad, lot's of injuries, has to be the following i reckon. .....................................Given...................................... Carr................Boum....................Taylor................Elliott Bowyer.............Clark.................Parker................Da Zog .......................Owen.................Shearer........................ Subs: Harper Moore Faye Emre Ameobi We'll do well to get a draw i reckon, i thought Wigan would do well and NUFC is exactly the kind of under-inspired 'big club' they'll relish turning over. If they show too much respect to Owen we'll stand a chance but they'll be much better organised than we will IMO. Prove me wrong lads.

They've obviousley nicked it tbh.

Mileage doesn't matter because it is a far too uncertain factor to insurance companies. Again, the calculation is based on how much insured events a caused by a specific group. It doesn't matter to the insurance company how often or how good someone drives, but if his insurance contribution covers the risk of an insured incident. Anyway, a terrible driver who uses his car once a year is much more likely that he covers his risk by his contribution than a good driver. 45109[/snapback] Yeah you've described how it works at present but I think mine and SG's point is that it should and future technology might facilitate it. 45114[/snapback] I don't think even with future facilites you'll be able a fair insurance system based on mileage. Look, insurances are basing their system on the cost of insured events. They therefore look how much money they have to acquire. The calculation is mostly based on a year, with insurants paying periodically (I don't think that's different in England). To get a fair system they now have to generate a system where the contribution of each insurant matches the insured events he causes as good as possible. Mileage doesn't fit into this system, because you have one parameter too much. You would have to base this system on insured events/year on one hand and insured events/mileage on the other hand. Well, you could change the system by crossing out the time factor, but then how to calculate the contribution so that they provide the insurance with enough cash constantly. Mileage is also a far too variable. Gender on the other hand is a static parameter. Renton is right, though. You could also base your calculation on other static parameters like race. That would obviously cause a huge uproar. Anyway, there exists an EC-discrimantion act that has to get implemented into national legislation. It prohibits every kind of discrimination of race, religion, gender etc. It is a big topic here in Germany (especially among privat law scientiest like me), because women right groups demand the act to be implemented as soon as possible, because they feel especially discriminated by one economical branch...and guess what...it's the insurance industry that is discriminating women in a lot branches due to their statistically longer life time. It's funny while those women are able to dig out loads of insurance sectors where they are discriminated, men do only come up with one... 45157[/snapback] All by the by IMO 'cause as we all know, most blacks don't have insurance