Craig

How do you know 'for a fact'?? 64330[/snapback] Because I do, I obviously can't reveal my source though. It's true though. 64635[/snapback] Why not? Why's it obvious??

I know they've appointed some shite managers over the years, but seriously?

In the same way I've never rejoiced at Lee Bowyer being on our payroll, I will never welcome Craig Bellamy back at the club, nor will I change the things I've said about him.

You really should learn some punctuation you know Dave....

Breaking story? Shouldn't you save it for an exclusive? 64508[/snapback] Nah, he's got player injuries stored up as his exclusives!

I was in Spain at the time. Was in the papers about a week before the news broke here. Sent Craig a text to see if he'd heard anything, which obviously he hadn't. 64496[/snapback] Actually you're right! I seem to recall mentioning something about it on here but no-one had heard a thing... 1-0 to Toontastic!

I think you're right Snakey, but what I seem to recall was that it was fueled in the end by disillusionment of the clubs decision to sell the likes of Neil McDonald. 'Sarge' left pretty close to the beginning of the 88/89 season IIRC.

Please, god, no!

errr... that'll be the first! Whingy fucking members!

That could come back to haunt you! How did things go Saturday?

Keegan blamed Freddie Fletcher and 'hoped' that Hall & Shepherd would see footballing sense. Quoted from the book:

IIRC Keegan said in his biography that Fat Fred was the only one who was supporting him until the end... or something along the lines. I'll have to look it up. 64461[/snapback] I think you're right Isegrim - I think it was Shepherd and Dougie who wanted him to stay on but their desire to float Newcastle United was greater, sadly... 64462[/snapback] Are you sure? I thought it was Hall he was miffed at? Mind, it's such a fucking circus at this club I forget who's upset who. 64464[/snapback] It was the retard auditor (Mark Corbridge) who they brought in from KPMG who really pissed him off IIRC. Something along the lines of "here's a bloke with no footballing knowledge who's had no involvement in the past 5 years turnaround at the club, calling all the shots!" The bloke parted company with NUFC in the summer of 1997 with a £400K pay-off. Dougie offered KK a position 'upstairs'. KK politely said no...

IIRC Keegan said in his biography that Fat Fred was the only one who was supporting him until the end... or something along the lines. I'll have to look it up. 64461[/snapback] I think you're right Isegrim - I think it was Shepherd and Dougie who wanted him to stay on but their desire to float Newcastle United was greater, sadly...

If KK came back, I think it would only be in some co-operative role with Shearer. As much as CB might be a Keegan-type player, I can't see the Welshman back at this club as long as Shearer (or Shepherd for that matter) has anything to do with it. The biggest mistake Bellamy made was to get on the wrong side of Shearer IMO. Up until that point, the door was open for him to return - deep down, we all knew Souness wouldn't last forever and that the bridges, whilst damaged, were still standing... Not any more though.

Keegan may still have misjudged the situation though, if he thought it would have effected managerial control and ambition of the club, as we have continued to outspend everyone bar manu and recently Chelsea since he left. And no, I'm not disagreeing, going PLC isn't the proper way to run a football club I do think it is better kept private. 64406[/snapback] Mind you, in saying all that, KK wanted out of NUFC regardless didn't he? He only left when he did because the fat-cats couldn't float the club with a team manager who wasn't going to commit to the club. Fucking disgrace making it a PLC. Had we not, we'd never have sold Sir Les in the summer of 1997, I'm convinced of it! The worst sale in the 23 years I've followed this club IMO only challenged by the equally baffling sale of Paul Goddard to Derby in 1988 (in my eyes what cost us our 1st Division status).

Now I understand this fella's sentiments but removing your feelings about the current management at Newcastle United, is there ever a sentence quite like this one for making no sense whatsoever?

Souness for Real Madrid!!!!! Well they did appoint Toshack a few years ago so they have a history of appointing Liverpool legends who turned into shit managers.... You never know!

In a twist of irony though, the KK 'dynasty' was brought to an end by consortium of greedy businessmen who were more focused on floating the club on the stock exchange, than ensuring that success by continuity occurred. IMO, from a footballing POV, the club has never been the same, or successful and I think it's as a direct coincidence. One of the members of that consortium? The very man who hired Graeme Souness........Frederick Shepherd esq.

Aye In our defence, well mine anyway, I was just winding everyone up... I still like the bloke though and will be saddened when he leaves, although happy at the same time. As I wanted him to succeed and I really thought, it would be typical of NUFC to hire a crap manager who no-one wanted, and get success from it. But then, the typical United that we are, we can't even get that right. 64381[/snapback] My defence is.....I have no defence!! I thought it'd be more damaging to get rid of him mid-season than let him remain for a few more months... Wednesday night saw the wool being lifted from my eyes though - this prat has to go!

He he needs to prove, should do the searching!

I think you'll find most of them (like both you and I ) have been converted... There's still a couple of them hanging about on that 'other' forum though! Obi, anyone?

What story, the KK one? I'm keeping it for an exclusive man 64349[/snapback] An exclusive rumour? Whaddya think this thread is? All the best exclusives are on Toontastic man. 64351[/snapback] Aye but we have proper insiders on wor board. 64354[/snapback] I'll have to take your word for it. Point me in the direction of the next "inside story" that gets posted, and when it comes true I'll believe you. 64356[/snapback] Lee clark signs for Newcastle. Posted on wor board 2 months before it actually happend. Luque in talks with Newcastle. Posted on our board two days before we were even linked by the British media. N'Zogbia's hand injury, posted the day after the Wigan match then the media come out with it just before yesterday's match. Taylor's shoulder injury, posted 2 days (and the length of time he'd be out) before the club officialy released it. And many more examples. Even Dyer's real injury, the takeover crap and a few other things. Obviously we hold back on a few things. Not bad for a shite forum 64361[/snapback] I'm not disputing them claims Chris, but can you provide proof? 64363[/snapback] http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/...p?action=search 64370[/snapback] That's a no then - you'll have to do better than expect me to search for it!

What story, the KK one? I'm keeping it for an exclusive man 64349[/snapback] An exclusive rumour? Whaddya think this thread is? All the best exclusives are on Toontastic man. 64351[/snapback] Aye but we have proper insiders on wor board. 64354[/snapback] I'll have to take your word for it. Point me in the direction of the next "inside story" that gets posted, and when it comes true I'll believe you. 64356[/snapback] Lee clark signs for Newcastle. Posted on wor board 2 months before it actually happend. Luque in talks with Newcastle. Posted on our board two days before we were even linked by the British media. N'Zogbia's hand injury, posted the day after the Wigan match then the media come out with it just before yesterday's match. Taylor's shoulder injury, posted 2 days (and the length of time he'd be out) before the club officialy released it. And many more examples. Even Dyer's real injury, the takeover crap and a few other things. Obviously we hold back on a few things. Not bad for a shite forum 64361[/snapback] I'm not disputing them claims Chris, but can you provide proof?

Boumsong? Bramble??

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