Papa Lazaru

And whilst Neville can be a bit of a dick at times, by footballers standards he does actually come across as quite knowledgeable and even intelligent at times rather than be one of the sheep like the rest of them. Also he's a top class right back so its good to hear him praising Nobby!

Was just listening to a mashup of that and Johny Cash, called not unsurprisingly: Johnny Cash Rules Everything Around Me or J.C.R.E.A.M. very entertaining!

I think the figures on people being religious will be massively wrong as you say. Many people will be classed as/registered as a religion from when they were bprn, but have no interest in or belief in it as an adult. I mean me, my parents and most of my friends are all christened and would be classed as protestants or catholics yet are all either staunch atheists or agnostics. As you said, alot of people will use churches for weddings and funerals and never set foot in one for any other reason, nor take part in any other aspect of the religion. Theres nothing wrong with this at all, but it does affect the figures of who are christians in this country! Personally i would refuse to use a church for my wedding as it would make me a massive hypocrite and i'd be taking advantage of their facilities, time and effort when i don't think i should given my beliefs and feelings.

Blatantly thinks it's alright to blow the gaffa off whilst in a long term relationship Can't be bothered to listen to it, but if somebody (male or female) chooses to cheat on their partner they deserve anything that comes to them, so if its genuine then she deserves it!

I haven't watched any of it, but i can imagine quite how annoying her family would be and i read somewhere that the other "celebs" were having to act as servants to them or something? I think they should have all just got together and told ch4 to fuck off and walked...but then where would their chance at a new career be!

Footballers really are a complete bunch of tarts compared to all other sportsmen (and women)!!!

Glad to hear Roeder say something like this, because if he actually thinks Carr is the better option at RB over Nobby then he shouldn't be managing a premiership football club!

That is one of the things that bothers alot of people, that we are animals (albeit far more evolved intellectually and emotionally) like any other and not special. Also alot of them really don't want to hear they share 99% of their DNA with bonobos (sp?) as that means they are 1% off being a chimp! Actually, missed Renton's last line. You honestly think people believe in God because they want to feel superior to monkeys? No, but carry on with the leazesesque putting words into my mouth! They believe in god because they believe in god, they don't like the idea of evolution because they really do haev a problem with the thought we have evolved from a chimp or some common ancestor with a chimp. Remember many of these people don't believe animals go to heaven (obviously neither do I!) but humans do, because they are superior beings with a soul (that animals don't have) They don't believe in god to feel superior but they see themselves as acompletely seperate and superior entity to other animals. Renton's mouth, tbh Can I point out that I'm a Christian, who believes in God, and also some parts of evolution, before you tar me with the same brush Too late, we've tarred (and feathered) you with the rabid, bible-bashing evangelist brush

That is one of the things that bothers alot of people, that we are animals (albeit far more evolved intellectually and emotionally) like any other and not special. Also alot of them really don't want to hear they share 99% of their DNA with bonobos (sp?) as that means they are 1% off being a chimp! Actually, missed Renton's last line. You honestly think people believe in God because they want to feel superior to monkeys? No, but carry on with the leazesesque putting words into my mouth! They believe in god because they believe in god, they don't like the idea of evolution because they really do haev a problem with the thought we have evolved from a chimp or some common ancestor with a chimp. Remember many of these people don't believe animals go to heaven (obviously neither do I!) but humans do, because they are superior beings with a soul (that animals don't have) They don't believe in god to feel superior but they see themselves as acompletely seperate and superior entity to other animals.

That is one of the things that bothers alot of people, that we are animals (albeit far more evolved intellectually and emotionally) like any other and not special. Also alot of them really don't want to hear they share 99% of their DNA with bonobos (sp?) as that means they are 1% off being a chimp!

Even if it doesn't prove where he came from, only that we know we evolved over a massive period of time to the species we are now, we certainly know we didn't spring forth from gods finger (or whatever!) and then get women from losing a spare rib! So leaving aside the theory of evolution, as has been said on here there is more than enough evidence of how long there has been life on earth and the like. So people can quite easilly dismiss anything from Genesis (especially the Phil Colins years)

Just trimmed the length of post a bit there! Could depend on what act on their beliefs means. For me they can do anything they like (within the law!) that doesn't impact upon those who don't share their views and i'd apply that to most things tbh. There aren't many examples i can think where i'd have a problem with a person of any religion praticing their beliefs tbh, my problem is with people forcing those views on others and influencing things that affect us all (believers and non). With me it has always been when anyhting gets censored, changed, or worst of all cancelled/banned on the basis of a religious argument. There is no other unproven thing (for want of a better word!) that could ever be used to ban tv programmes from broadcast, have films censored or plays picketted and cancelled etc. and thats the thing that annoys me. If i lived in the USA i'd explode But basically i'm the same as Renton and NJS, i think people are entitled to any faith they like but it shouldn't be taught in schools as a subject or have any hint of it being fact applied to it should it be mentioned, that is for kids to decide themselves. Should evolution be taught in school? Of course, there is clear scientific evidence of it. There is clear scientific evidence to lead to it's theory. However, much of evolution is open to interpretation. None of the "theory" is fact yet. In fact, we still don't know where humans technically came from (humans as we know them by the way). You're just being pedantic. The evidence for Evolution is overwhelming, if we can't treat it as a fact, then what is? Man evolved from apes - fact or not? The point I'm making is following from the comment about teaching about religion in school (by the way, I work in a school which is over 50% islam, which teaches about all the major religions in the world. It teaches what people believe in, how to express their beliefs. It doesn't however tell people what they should believe in). Men and chimpanzees share a common ancestor - that's a fact, yes. I should be more clear on my stance in religion in schools. I don't mind it being taught, as long as the teaching isn't too dogmatic and is based on history. But I strongly object to Faith schools. Less than 15 miles from me there is a school called Emmanuelle college which openly teaches creationism and has a head science teacher who believes in the Bible literally. The state pays for 90% of the school. I'd shut it down tommorrow. Bit harsh, I'd shut down 90% of it! I agree with you though, when funded by the country thats completely unaceptable. If they raised 100% of the running costs every year and funded the building of the school themselves and told parents beforehand what their "curriculum" was then fair enough, but while the country is paying for it, that's terrible.

Just trimmed the length of post a bit there! Could depend on what act on their beliefs means. For me they can do anything they like (within the law!) that doesn't impact upon those who don't share their views and i'd apply that to most things tbh. There aren't many examples i can think where i'd have a problem with a person of any religion praticing their beliefs tbh, my problem is with people forcing those views on others and influencing things that affect us all (believers and non). With me it has always been when anyhting gets censored, changed, or worst of all cancelled/banned on the basis of a religious argument. There is no other unproven thing (for want of a better word!) that could ever be used to ban tv programmes from broadcast, have films censored or plays picketted and cancelled etc. and thats the thing that annoys me. If i lived in the USA i'd explode But basically i'm the same as Renton and NJS, i think people are entitled to any faith they like but it shouldn't be taught in schools as a subject or have any hint of it being fact applied to it should it be mentioned, that is for kids to decide themselves. Should evolution be taught in school? Naturally! Its backed up by countless scientific evidence, its happening all the time and can be shown to be and its an important part of the biological sciences. If you want you can end that section of biology in school by saying, by the way the bible has another theory on how things came to be, check it out if you like! Do I have to spend time explaining the whole theory of evolution before we continue with this debate? You realise that many parts of the Bible are backed by historical documents? Jesus was around at the time the Bible claimed, and he was also crucified. These are documents which have nothing to do with religion by the way. In the same sense, evolution (the THEORY) has many facts too, and many things which are peoples opinion. Not really, i did it at school. None of the above stuff you mentioned (being from the new testament) has any baring on what i'd previously said. I said the bible has a theory on how humans came to be, and the part of the bible dealing with how humans came to be is genesis and you will do well to find any historical documents backing up that load of nonsense.

Certainly distracted the defence on the 2nd as they decided to stand back and watch him have a shot!

At the same time as posting leaders, Gemmil and Alex are absent, coincidence?

Just trimmed the length of post a bit there! Could depend on what act on their beliefs means. For me they can do anything they like (within the law!) that doesn't impact upon those who don't share their views and i'd apply that to most things tbh. There aren't many examples i can think where i'd have a problem with a person of any religion praticing their beliefs tbh, my problem is with people forcing those views on others and influencing things that affect us all (believers and non). With me it has always been when anyhting gets censored, changed, or worst of all cancelled/banned on the basis of a religious argument. There is no other unproven thing (for want of a better word!) that could ever be used to ban tv programmes from broadcast, have films censored or plays picketted and cancelled etc. and thats the thing that annoys me. If i lived in the USA i'd explode But basically i'm the same as Renton and NJS, i think people are entitled to any faith they like but it shouldn't be taught in schools as a subject or have any hint of it being fact applied to it should it be mentioned, that is for kids to decide themselves. Should evolution be taught in school? Naturally! Its backed up by countless scientific evidence, its happening all the time and can be shown to be and its an important part of the biological sciences. If you want you can end that section of biology in school by saying, by the way the bible has another theory on how things came to be, check it out if you like!

Just trimmed the length of post a bit there! Could depend on what act on their beliefs means. For me they can do anything they like (within the law!) that doesn't impact upon those who don't share their views and i'd apply that to most things tbh. There aren't many examples i can think where i'd have a problem with a person of any religion praticing their beliefs tbh, my problem is with people forcing those views on others and influencing things that affect us all (believers and non). With me it has always been when anyhting gets censored, changed, or worst of all cancelled/banned on the basis of a religious argument. There is no other unproven thing (for want of a better word!) that could ever be used to ban tv programmes from broadcast, have films censored or plays picketted and cancelled etc. and thats the thing that annoys me. If i lived in the USA i'd explode But basically i'm the same as Renton and NJS, i think people are entitled to any faith they like but it shouldn't be taught in schools as a subject or have any hint of it being fact applied to it should it be mentioned, that is for kids to decide themselves.

Why are their millions of muslims who believe in Allah? Why are you right and they wrong? If that's not supreme arrogance then I don't know what is. Its also arrogance to completely rubbish all the ancient religions as myths and stories made up at the time then claim chritianity/judaism/islam et al are compeltely true and beyond reproach when they are equally as ludicrous/unproven with the only difference being the ancient ones were IMO interesting. Theres nothing arrogant about atheism, you don't ever have to prove something doesn't exist or isn't real, that burden of proof falls entirely on the person making the claims. Thats why its called faith, you take it with no real evidence. An atheist (whether believers like it or not) remains correct until categorical prove to the contrary is produced that everyone can see and believe beyond doubt. If some geek came along and stated Jedis were completely true, they existed out there in space and that he felt he'd interacted with them/seen them in a vision etc. Nobody would ever say that those of us who think he's talking bollocks have to prove it, but apprently atheists (according to some) have to prove god doesn't exist...and they do by stating he doesn't and that there is no evidence he does! Nobody has to prove anything, IMO. I couldn't give a shit if you believe or not. I'm ecstatic for you, though if you couldn't care you didn't need to post that you couldn't care. And people do have to prove something when they use it in arguments, when they use it to tell other people how to live their lives, what sexuality to be, what films/tv/plays you can and can't have shown because it offends their sensibilities and any other examples you could name. The fact is if somebody wants to have a faith and a believe in anything that helps them, thats great and its a personal thing. They don't have to prove it to anyone and shouldn't feel the need to. But whenever religion (completely unproven) is used in arguments and affects the lives of people who don't believe it then there is a problem.

Nearly half of Americans believe in the Bible literally though. And worst of all loads of them are in positions of serious power!

Why are their millions of muslims who believe in Allah? Why are you right and they wrong? If that's not supreme arrogance then I don't know what is. Its also arrogance to completely rubbish all the ancient religions as myths and stories made up at the time then claim chritianity/judaism/islam et al are compeltely true and beyond reproach when they are equally as ludicrous/unproven with the only difference being the ancient ones were IMO interesting. Theres nothing arrogant about atheism, you don't ever have to prove something doesn't exist or isn't real, that burden of proof falls entirely on the person making the claims. Thats why its called faith, you take it with no real evidence. An atheist (whether believers like it or not) remains correct until categorical prove to the contrary is produced that everyone can see and believe beyond doubt. If some geek came along and stated Jedis were completely true, they existed out there in space and that he felt he'd interacted with them/seen them in a vision etc. Nobody would ever say that those of us who think he's talking bollocks have to prove it, but apprently atheists (according to some) have to prove god doesn't exist...and they do by stating he doesn't and that there is no evidence he does!

Very annoying as with our injuries the last thing we need is more games!!! As is often the case our defence will be blamed (and i havent seen it so perhaps rightly) but we always miss chances to kill games or extend our lead before we concede goals.

You've got to love those people who completely hammer something they haven't read/seen/heard, not that this is exclusive to religious people! I was watching the documentary about the furore over The Life of Brian on channel 4 and some of the people on their were truly laughable. Councils had banned the film from their district and when questioned on it said they hadn't seen a showing of it (even though they could have) but felt free to deny other grown adults the choice of watching it because it offended their religious sensibilities. They also showed footgae of the debate between Cleese/Palin for the film and some bishop/Malcolm Muggeridge against it. And by god did the two against it coem across as the most arrogant, obnoxious, petty and childish pair of pricks possible, whilst Cleese and Palin maintained alot of dignity and class in the face of essentially abuse at times. Obviously they walked the argument because they were right, but as Cleese revealed he had a stock of quotes from Muggeridge that he could have used to destroy him and his argument but he held back as he felt sorry for the bloke! I've always said that is somebody is genuinely strong in their faith, has no doubts and knows they are right then they can take any criticism or humour aimed at their religion. But if you can't take it, then it shows a distinct lack of faith and that you have alot of doubts about being right if a comedy film will cause untold havoc in your religion!

This myth that toon supportes want the FA cup the most has stuck to our fans for alongtime now and its never going to go away i suspect. I'm sure there are a handful of toon fans out there who, for whatever reason genuinely want to win the FA cup more, but i have never met or spoken to one in my life and internet messageboards don't seem filled with them either. If i was given the choice of any trophies (in some fantasy alternate reality) i'd go CL (you're essentially the best in the world and everybody knows it) then Prem and then either UEFA or FA cup. I'd pick UEFA then FA cup these days, but i suspect alot of people wold go for FA before UEFA. Since we're toon fans though, it's not a debate we're ever likely to need to have! To be fair to Dyer though, he is at least saying "some of our fans" whereas Big Al would often just say "Newcastle fans want to win the FA cup the most"

MIllner has done as much if not more than other players this season, despite being treat like shit and i'm in favour of keeping him as we can scarecely afford to reduce our squad further! However much as i like him his end product is still woefull alot of the time, particularly when under no pressure at all and he really does have to sort this out. But at least there have been some excellent crosses fired in amongst the dross and that is what he has to be aiming for. And like many of our squad he has to be lookign for a few more goals.

Is that any good then, and does it star Samuel L. Jackson, it sounds like it should!