The Fish

Well, we have qualified regularly for europe, including a Champions League run, and bought England players, so if you think that is stagnant I suppose its correct. But its far from rubbish or medioce, or a joke to other fans and other clubs, if you think that then you have a problem, because you wouldn't know real mediocrity if it hit you on the head with a hammer. Oh sweet lordy dear! Which England players have we bought? the 'Keeper? nope, A defender? no sir, a midfielder...well...kind of... he's (possibly) the 5th choice central midfielder... ok.. well hows about our England striker? Done well this season hasn't he Yes, Yes I know he's injured but my point is this.. How can you claim buying England players as an indication of something good? Arsenal have No current England players and they're in a much stronger position than we are. Boro' have one and didn't have to buy him, Charlton have one ffs. I know what your version of mediocre is pal, it takes into account every club from Afc Wimbledon to Man U, so yeah in those terms we're not mediocre... but for fucks sake I don't want this club and Watford mentioned in the same breath, let alone Woking Town! Leazes man, we were challenging for the title, we were playing Champions League football, we were playing exciting enthralling football.... now we're playing for our very premiership survival and we're playing in the inter-two-bob and in general, we're playing shite! I know you're hooked on the phrase mediocre and that's fine, but you're talking about the entire football league format, we're talking about for the club as it is now. The size, the expectation and the RECENT history. Of course we're doing better than Lincoln and the like, we have better pedigree and so attract big money, big crowds and big players... but it's all comparative. Since freddy took stewardship we've not surpassed anything we'd achieved under Hall other than crowd receipt and all other statistics which would come with simply playing more games. He hasn't modernised the club, he hasn't made sweeping changes to the academy to encourage home-grown talent, he hasn't approached the media with any idea of how a chairman should act. Face it Leazes, we at best have been stagnant, a stagnation you're ok with. You and I both know that in reality we've stuttered and stumbled back a few paces. We're no where, not even close to the title race, our squad is thin and even at full strength we are severely lacking in important areas, we are STILL the laughing stock of the premiership when it comes to off-field behaviour. (despite a recent lapse in coverage and your claims to the contrary.) Now I know you'll claim that such things are the remit of the manager. Who hires the management and more importantly...bollocks! Chairman can veto and strongly suggest signings.. as he clearly has done on occasion... Chairmen can introduce 5yr plans and set his stall out from the beginning, Chairman can direct the club along a paht. Freddy has done nothing but massage his ego with "big name"- token players, get his pie-stuffed face in the media as often as humanly (I stretch the term) possible and employ the wrong peope after the wrong people. oh and make stupid ass quotes for the media

Any vids of the goals anywhere? tried Youtube and it's MT

Is it just me or does Dyer look like he accidentally spat on Martins back?

my lucky number is 49 so that'll do me fine (or 25 if you're being arsey )

You keep saying you're 6 ft, but I remain unconvinced. Look about 5 10 to me. I think you are right Gemmill, my first reaction on meeting Fish was that I was a good 15/16ths of an inch taller tbh. I am absolutely, bang on, spot on, exactly 6' Scott thinks I'm shorter simply because he wears high heels No way in hell are you two inches taller than me - we were more or less the same height when we were talking so Jimbo's estimate of 5ft 10 is about right you have to remember something craig it's very important. I'm 6'

Today? Or because he doesn't swing in perfect crosses consistently, such as for Martins' first goal? All of the time with his inconsistent crossing. There's no need to complain though, when he's contributed to a victory. Shepherd inadvertently contributed to todays victory... I'm still going to whinge about that fat knacker (I'm just playing devils advocate)

Well, you have to be sure of his guilt and allow him his appeals. This is why it is a myth that capital punishment is a cheaper option than life imprisonment. And even then they get it wrong which is often found out pretty quickly posthumously. I'd like anyone to give me one good reason in support of capital punishment. Murder you're kidding right? so if I'm a yank and carrying a gun, I shoot someone in self defense, but a good lawyer cranks my case up to murder 1 I should fry? I don't think murders deserve death. but to be fair I don't think any country has a legal/penal system that's perfect

"Indeed, if I did not know that Glenn Roeder is a cockney from east London, I would say he was one of us because he shows all the qualities of a Geordie." sums him and his management style up perfectly. twat

Leazes man, ffs, you've read my posts so it's obvious you've no genuine reason to fail to answer it. will you admit that we've been stagnant for the last ten years, the ten years that Shepherd has been chairman?

is that coming off the top of his head?

it doesn't look as light hearted as the previous films which could go either way if you ask me

You keep saying you're 6 ft, but I remain unconvinced. Look about 5 10 to me. I think you are right Gemmill, my first reaction on meeting Fish was that I was a good 15/16ths of an inch taller tbh. I am absolutely, bang on, spot on, exactly 6' Scott thinks I'm shorter simply because he wears high heels

I'm off to bed too... but you're no longer here... so I'm kind of just talk ing to myself..

.. you're freakin killing me here man woman man. go to bed

Yeah, no need to spit when you can swallow, just like Cat here obviously prefers I've said it before and I'll say it again - ladies don't spit....... but that doesn't clear up your stance on the matter !

Yeah, no need to spit when you can swallow, just like Cat here obviously prefers

who're you going to leave you liver and kidneys to?

I wonder where PP was off to on the train like..

Correct. It's fucking disgusting stuff! quoted for truth...had a taste of it last night it is rank !!! tried it and got sick of the taste after about half a pint

don't fucking jinx it you faux-beard-sporting-twat!

nobody has averaged 1st, so who is best ? Fact is, our average is the 5th highest and only 4 clubs have qualified more for europe and finished higher. So unless a new board can improve on that ? But I'm sure just so long as they have a "plan" it will guarantee success don't care who is best, I was just showing that you can say that consistently we've been the 5th best club in England off the back of European competition, but it's easy to debunk that by proving that it's possible to prove anything with the proper application of mathematics and insanity. and you STILL haven't answered the question.

ahhh so you don't have me ignored... why then won't you answer my questions? I doubt that I've stumped you.

our loan is against the stadium though, Leeds used there's (iirc) to buy players, which backfired when the players/management didn't produce

Also Leazes the past ten years we've finished on average 7th, so we should at least aim to improve on that? whaddya know? I can do wacky-mathematics too. oh, before I forget, will you concede that this club has at best been stagnant for the last ten years?