The Fish

In bed with one two weeks ago and managed to get her to wear my Newcastle strip, just about to get first shag with her and cos i called her her best friends name she got a monk on! I shagged her friend but she has monk on with me for time with other one. Tonight went out with another lass and she wants long term committment. Only known her 3 days Jesus, why cant they just do things normally? ... monk on? am I alone in thinking

Howay man Dave. We rarely agree on stuff, but in this instance I was talking about something I've formed an opinion of through having experienced it. You're entitled to yours. I just think that some day you may be forced to review it. if I do (and I hope I don't) I reckon the last place I'll post a retraction is on here. and Gems right it's Haway

It really changes my whole career aspirations to know that some bloke, who doesn't know me, hasn't seen anything I've submitted to be marked by lecturers and frankly hasn't got a clue what he's talking about... reckons I won't make it as a Psychologist... not all psychologists have to subscribe to the softly softly catchy monkey approach. I for one think that counselling and society as a whole has gone too far in that direction, leading to a blame culture and as such a lack of personal responsibility. of course I want to help people, but I want to make sure they do it for the right reasons, I want to make sure they help themselves, because at the end of the day they're the only people who can. So while I might have a personal opinion about a subject, you can bet your last fiver that it won't ever surface in a professional arena. I mean, fucking hell you saw what happened when I dared to voice it here..

think they're bad, you should try people who don't agree with you... Christ on a bike, you'd think I raped a six yr old and wrote a song about it.

I think so, maybe I'm wrong. If right, though, this line from T-Keith really takes the biscuit: ? In what manner? he means that it implies that despite studying it, you think I know nothing. but seriously I have my opinions on the matter and clearly I've gotten everyones knickers in a twist. I'm man enough to say my beliefs are not going to win me any "nicest bloke in Britain" prizes, but they are MY opinions. and as this is an internet message board and not a court of law I really don't think I needed to do anything but give chicken nugget answers. if you wanted a full essay on suicide, depression etc. then I'd love to. maybe then you'd understand why I've formed this opinion and not just leap around from indignation to affront. FFS I might not be all warm and fuzzy, but I've made an opinion based on what I know. So sue me.

By "easy" I blatantly meant "easier than facing whatever it is that you think is unbearable." and If someone was depressed and seeking counsel of course I'd be a professional about it, just as I'm sure the medics on here have to shelve their personal feelings about a myriad of patients. Be they drug or spousal abusers, they'd still receive the very best treatment the medics could deliver. someone asked my opinion I gave it, and as I'm being vilified I think it's best if I stop replying here. It's fine to be indignant and say that "I won't know until..." and that's fair, but I was asked my opinion and my opinion is that suicide is easier than facing whatever it is, suicide is easier than seeking help. It's my opinion that the devastation it leaves behind makes in unjustifiable. but like I say, as it's upset so many people I'll keep my opinion to myself in future.

To be cowardly is to lack the courage to face danger, pain, peril etc. would have thought that to call them cowardly was apt. I know it stokes emotions and but it's the best word I can think of to describe the way I feel about the people who do this.

It's no surprise that there are polar opinions on this. end of the day I would never be able to forgive. People can call me selfish if they like, but to kill yourself is, in my opinion, taking the easy way out. Especially when it leaves the devastation behind.

Presumably if your friend was going through a lot of pain, it solved that? not really, the suicide just transferred his friends pain to other people.

She's got a point, like, that's a shocking attitude who wants to be a psychologist(?) You two need to read the post before damning me. The people who do it cause untold pain and suffering to those they leave behind. If I need deal with the mess of someone being so selfish, then of course I'd be tactful, but this is an internet message forum, where none of you are seeking couselling, especially not from me. I cannot have sympathy for the people who attempt suicide because it's not in my nature. If I knew of a person who was contemplating it I'd certainly want to change their mind, search for the cause of their anguish and fix it. But I wouldn't for one minute think "Oh poor You" Suicide is a cowards way out and as such I'm not going to sympathise. If you're angry because you think I don't get the pain that the person leaves, then you didn't read the post. If you are angry because I don't care about the one who has died, then fine, because in committing suicide they've dumped all their misery onto someone else and fucked off. unforgivable to me. (p.s. I didn't see Cats post and would have phrased it better if I had)

It's a selfish, cowardly thing to do. Never been directly affected by it, but have seen the effects on close friends of mine. A guy I went to school with was working in Ireland with his dad, just doing some laboring. His dad comes home to the Hotel from the pub, find Chris swinging from his neck. I have no sympathy for people who attempt suicide either. I'd love to find out exactly how many truly want to die, and how many are just doing it for attention. and these fuckers who jump off bridges into traffic or the path of trains are fucking subhuman scum tbh.

aye, and you think the board you call shit would conjure up 20m quid to buy the forwards we really need on top of the money for him, assuming you still stupidly think defenders is our main need and priority ... you don't have much to say do you adds more to the debate than you tbh.

ahhh so it's not through concern for an animal. it's just that you're tight

just rented Renaissance, an animated film.. daniel craig stars (somehow) in it.. heard good things.. but I'll properly critique it when I'm done.

or a tennis ball? or is that too dangerous for wickle puppywuppwoo? and here was I thinking molly coddling was the remit of overbearing mothers, but apparently... dog owners too

while some of the lads were at comedy school voer the weekend... did you got to a "Subtlety and Tact 101" Seminar? Under the circumstances, I don't think I was all that harsh! You were spot on gemmil, this was exactly the point i was trying to get across. The daft cunt must be in love with himself if he thinks he can paint a fake mole on his dish, stretch a beanie over his massive fucking head, and expect every lass within 3ft of him to be fizzing at the slit. Top shelf doughnut puncher imo I'd reckon he may... just possibly... have been taking the piss out of himself? I don't really think he's so far up himself he'd get dressed up like that... I expect it was done tongue in cheek. but don't let that get between you harsh bastards an yer fun

just ordered two mood beanies You paid money for something that LITERALLY grows on trees? the worlds gone mad!

The kettle or your missus?

the right click doo-hicky is good for stealing pics from the net, the toolbar is a quick and easy way to upload images from your hard-drive... apparently you can also easily make a slideshow... wowee I'm all a tingle with excitement

Reminds me of when we had our work socials (once a month they would put a couple of hundred quid behind the bar here) and the fucking secretaries would finish half an hour early, take the money down and have drank nearly all of it ordering £5 cocktails by the time anyone else turned up (the bitches would actually have a drink in their hand and another two each hoarded on a table). Sluts indeed. Fucking Hate Old Orleans, mainly for the twats behind and in front of the bar, the over-priced beverages on tap, but mostly... It's the fact that it's a great place for a bar. right next to the major Metro station, would be a top notch place to go in for pre and post match drinks if wasn't such a shit place. p.s. Gemmil have you got the imageshack toolbar? megausefulgizmology don'tcha know

while some of the lads were at comedy school voer the weekend... did you got to a "Subtlety and Tact 101" Seminar?

just started a new game with myself and a couple of mates added to their respective teams. I took control of Newcastle, Ian -Villa and Tom has bitched and moaned like a stuck pig because you can't manage AFC Wimbledon yet. So we all promised to buy players from Wimbledon every season for a hundred grand each, until AFC are in the league proper and Tom can take control. Tom fucked up with his DoB so he's on a Yth contract. the minute we found this out, we all tried to sign him on a pre contract agreement, he sharply signed for me stating his desire to learn from Michael Owen. (Not Thierry Henry?) bit of shrewdness in the transfer market saw me sell Duff for £7.5m, Dyer for £4.5, Milner for £5, Bramble, Babayaro and Carr each for around £1m. Made Rangers pay 200k for the privilege of loaning Krul.. Plus the £2m kitty gave me about £22m Removed most of the signing on fees and upped the bonuses and weekly wage instead. Whoever finishes the season with the most managerial points is bought a crate of beer by the other two p.s. we put ourselves in the positions we play, rather than the positions that would most help our club, if I was allowed I'd have been a center half... first Game of the League..... but.... Oba's out for 3-4months... fuck. Nobby's out for 4-6...days

baba and Carr returning is dreadful news, Rossi being involved is good news.

it's like a black hole, no matter how hard you try to fight it, you just get dragged in. but you're right, I should leave this the fuck alone.

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