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Does Ashley strike you as the type of man to pay up the contract of an opposing teams manager, as well as huge compensation to his club? Oh look! its not actually football manager out there, its real people and real money. Has it fuckin sunk in yet?....

again, who beleives Pardew the yes man? all this bullshit seems to have come as a bit of surprise to you...doesnt take away 5th place last season though does it?.....

He's not bullshitting about Europe, suspensions and injuries though. Only you cant accept it. He's not covered himself in glory either, but last season bought him a bit of time to turn things round whether you like it or not. There really is nothing you can do about it and you've not come anywhere near to proving that he's terminally shite and should be sacked.

You're the one taking Pardew's comments in the press at face value old son, not me. Who's the one who beleives bullshit again?

Straight in there on that one cocknose, well done...funny you of all people should pick up on it....wonder why?....

You take literaly everything that comes out of everyone's mouth? To borrow a phrase "what a fuckin mug"...So Pardew was sucking up to his boss via the press, distasteful to me certainly, but what does it fuckin matter in the big picture? And it proves nothing in the context of this....or you beleive that Pardew is sat there negotiating transfer fees with Lille?...Llambias is on record saying that they couldnt agree a fee for Debuchy. Douglas is available for nothing in the summer. Am not saying I agree with the way this summer was handled but it was completley and utterly out of Pardew's hands and to claim otherwise shows a basic inability to understand how these things work. Who'd have thought you can't understand something? not like you etc etc...

Do you really think Pardew thinks he doesnt need to improve certain posistions? Its out of his hands, the deals couldnt be done this summer after the players required had been identified by the "team". The part of the "team" which is supposed to do the deals failed. Nowt to do with Pardew that. He's responsible for helping identify potential targets, but doesnt get involved in the finacial side of things, very few coaches do nowadays.

Great read Gene, might go over the head of one or two on here though..

Pardew is the right man for the job because of his 5th place finish last season has bought him a bit of time. He's getting the benefit of the doubt from most supporters and almost certainly more than that level of support from the man who's just given him an 8 year contract. That won't last long though, certainly not from the supporters if things continue to go wrong. He's only the right man for the job if he can turn things round in other words, and we can't tell if he will or won't. Theres better managers out there than Pardew, yes. Does that answer your question better?....... Sam Allardyce always seems to do well at clubs in a bit of bother. Any takers?....Tony Pulis knows how to scrap for points, but theyre both employed. As are Laudrup at Swansea, Jol at Fulham and Martinez at Wigan, Lambert at Villa, Clarke is a novice manager at WBA, dodgy call that one etc etc...would Ashley pay up any of their contracts mid season and a huge lump of compo to their clubs?... Alan Curbishley did a great job at Charlton and when they thought they could do better they ended up in divison 3. Mark Hughes produces rock hard teams when he's allowed a shout at who actually comes in on the playing staff. Anyone else?..Glen Hoddle?.....Alex McLeish?...all without a job...Terry Venables?..he produced some cracking teams to watch, LBT would love him, but I think he turned Ashley down around the time Kinnear was appointed. Whose appointment, incidentally, lead to the last time a mananger was sacked for losing 4 in a row at NUFC, and beleive it or not that was Chrissy Hughton....who'd have thunk it? ..... Craig Levein's probably waiting for a call, but Robbie Di Matteo is on gardening leave after his Chelsea affair turned sour. Experienced hands in the championship?...Warnock or Holloway for example? an old boy to get the crowd on side?...Lee Clark?..foreign managers?.... I tell you who always impressed me, Hector Cuper, brilliant defensive coach. He'd sort Willo out, probably get him an England cap or two.2 Champions League finals with Valencia. Now at Ordispur in Turkey. Klaus Toppmoller, brilliant at Leverkusen, not in work but likely to be pissed as we speak. Koemans at Feyenoord, is Klinsmann still enjoying the California sunshine?... Feel free to add to the list, there are probably dozens you could argue are better coaches than Pardew and you could also argue that they could all do a better job than he's doing at the moment.

The point he's the best man for Mike Ashley.If you're asking me who'd do a better job I'd rather have Pep Guardiola as coach and Johan Cruyff as director of football

Your forgetting how Shane terrorised them, isnt he CT?....the day they twatted us 4 nowt...

Cheers CT, weve got an aircraft carrier to build before that so its 2 year hence but still... Portmouth will close, Cameron is putting pressure on BAE not to hand Salmond a propaganda coup before the independance vote...despite the 2 yards in Scotland being 100ish years old and Pompey being 12

All that is irrelevent when you're owned by Mike Ashley.

hmmm.....are these easy to come by?....

Office based now CT... took a huge payrise for less work and not a lot more responsbilty...but then this at weekend http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/9700890/Axe-looms-over-BAE-shipyards.html

Thats fair enough, am not trying to put words in anyones mouth. There was a general feel good factor and hope for the future from at least 80% though, including me to a certain extent. It appears to have all gone, but there were enough good things for a little hope to survive, even for me. Thing is nowts changed, we've had less luck and more injuries. I can accept that because I knew last season was only the start of a very long road...

Funny you should mention that, it has been mooted as a trip for next year as I know some lads who are going....not really got another team, was just wondering if it was on as Parky mentioned it.

your point being? That appears to be me attempting to pull into line another "told you so!" merchant. The road Ashley is taking us down has left me a complete scizophrenic. I think he's a cunt, but if he follows through this policy it could well work. Its what won Forest 2 European Cups and kept Lyon in the latter stages of the champions league for a decade more recently. Its going to take time though and last season gave me enough hope to give him and Pardew the benefit of the doubt for this season at least. Or at least until we're in the bottom 3 Now can you pull up the thread from last spring where I argued long and hard that Europe had come a season too early for us and was told to cheer up and stop being a miserable bastard...if you can't beat 'em, join 'em

High hopes? You bet Bit too demanding: probably But this is Newcastle, and I am not content with simply winning. We should look somewhat stylish while doing it. I'll say you're consistant....you're as unrealistic last season as you're being this season. We all want that, and you're jumping all over Pardew in particular because he's not delivering it. With the huuuuge backing of Mike Ashley. If you can't see that a. the two are intrinsically linked and b.it may take some time before we see real progress then I guess we're never going to see c. you pissing off and annoying some other unlucky fuckers ...

I'd like to see your posts regarding this from last year please, smartarse. And stop being so fuckin condescending about people who actually support the football club, not just whinge about it online.

I put my laptop and and clean clothes in it when I stay at Mrs PL's.... you know what the women are like CT.....she'd be upset if I didnt use it, seeing as it was a birthday present from her. But all its done is replace a decade old cream coloured Puma hoadall I used anyway......no ones commnented on it either, but that may be to do with none of my mates having seen me mincing down the road with it slung around my shoulders Thing is, if we buy a house together next year as planned,I think it will only get used whilst on holiday, replacing a similarly ancient rucksack, which am glad to see the back of.....so, even though I now look cooler than a fuckin ice-pop, its hardly been life changing...

No, you claimed you said on here last season that the Pardew was shite and the players, with one or two exceptions, were shite. Am saying I dont remember anyone having major complaints about anything.

No you do fake outrage leading to wind up. You do claim to have said all this on here last season,but you didnt, as HF began to point out the other day.

I'd like to see all these posts from last season where you sageley pointed all this out

You can get the filters in any plumber's merchants. If you can, take the model number and make, if not, take a piccy. PTS, Pipeline etc etc they'll all sort you out today CT. I'll forward the invoice by PM