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I know am going to regret getting involved in this....I've had a hunt around the interweb and there really isnt anything that truly explains the technical theory behind it... Whether Wolfy chooses to accept it or not, this is how a basic AC circuit with a dual feed works from what I can remember from college, a quarter of a century ago! The best technical way I can explain it is that the voltage and current in an AC circuit is in a waveform i.e. they alternate up and down (hence ALTERNATING CURRENT). The surlpus is fed back into the grid "out of step" with the supply wave. This is acheived by the electronics in the inverter.So the surlplus waveform is out of step with the incoming wave, i.e. the surplus sine wave sits in between the peaks and troughs of the incoming supply wave . Thats how electricity in AC circuits can travel in different directions, as it would appear Wolfy does acknowlege. The current (the electrons) is moved by the force (the cirucit voltage) and its in effect the voltage that can go either way, it carries the current with it. The surplus exiting back to the grid is metered seperately BUT in the same meter enclosure (two sets of current tranformers in the metering would do this, one for each waveform, but they would feed only one "display", hence the meter "going backwards") before it is returned to the grid so a value can be put on it for both the consumer and the supply company. This is how in the UK you can use the supply company's cable to export surplus energy back into the grid....as far as I can make out... The thing about all this is, at the start of the thread about nuclear power Wolfy didnt beleive me when I said I'd seen lads machining solid lumps of Plutonium on huge lathes when I worked at AWE Aldermaston as a sparky so as I said at the start I don't expect him to beleive a word of this Grid tie (also known as grid-intertied or utility-interactive) systems are intended to operate in parallel with an electric utility. Here is how they work. At night or during inclement weather all the electricity is supplied by the mains. During the daylight hours, the system generates some power, offsetting the consumption of electricity from the utility and cutting electric bills. The balance of the kWh required by your loads is automatically drawn from the input lines. If the PV panels are producing more electricity than you are using, the system will feed the surplus of the energy back to the utility. It may even spin your electric meter backwards, further reducing your monthly bill. Such configuration is the most common, simplest and less expensive than other types of grid-interactive residential PV setups. Currently, an average net cost of an installed batteryless on-grid PV generators for homes is under $7 per watt. For homeowners a large portion of this cost may be offset by various credits and rebates. The main disadvantage of such systems is that normally they do not provide any back-up power during blackouts even if sun is shining and the PV array is producing enough energy. For a backup you need to use a battery-based systems with special inverters. Heres the link with the yank circuit system on it, which is different to ours; the supply characteristics on this drawing appear to be 2 phase (L1 & L2) with a separate neutral, which is tied down to earth at a point between the meter and the main isolating switch for the property (usually a copper earth rod) In the UK we usually use a combined Neutral and Earth conductor which is wrapped in a copper "armour" around the one single phase live conductor. The neutral and earth are both tied down to earth at the supply comapany's generator and are only split into seperate neutral and earth conductors at the consumers side of the supply company's fuse, situated beside the meter in most domestic dwellings. Non of this makes a blind bit of difference when exporting energy back into the grid though. http://solar.smps.us/grid-tied.html An sure somone with more thorough knowlegde of how electricity behaves in AC circuits may come along and put me right on a few things but this is how it seems to me.

The BBC's Director General has resigned. Cant beleive some of the top brass at Newsnight wont be far behind him.

Now this: “It was the hardest one to take because I thought it was the right one. I thought it was the next step, a big club, big fanbase, big budgets. And unfortunately I never saw any of that. I left and I moved on. “The only reason cited to me was they wanted to move in their own direction because I wasn’t the man selected by them.” Didnt he spend 20 odd million in about a month?....

Being pedantic about it am sure you're spot on, but it doesnt require a huge effort to show respect for those who made sure we have the choice. We should all wear one iyam, but if you choose not to thats cool too. I doubt many of the fallen got on a troop ship thinking "they'll fuckin love us for this....".

I largely agree, but without the sacrifice of millions in the last century none of us would get the choice. Not much to ask and if he's from Derry am sure he has his reasons, but still. He's taking hundreds of thousands a year in salary from an English team, wheres his fuckin princples there?

Might be the "character" behind me in Brugge who was singing "if it wasnt for the English you'd be krauts"...I turned round to check out this no doubt noted historian and observed that this sort of thing meant SO much to him that he'd forgotten to wear a poppy, stood there less than an hours drive from Ypres.

I imagine that if McLean is making some sort of point, he'd view those who joined up (of their own free will, plans for conscription in Ireland went a long way to encouraging the German-backed Michael Collns et al in the oppurtunistic 1918 rebellion) as traitors. But if he also thinks that in a German dominated Western Europe he'd have enjoy the freedom of choice that is his and allows him to choose not to wear a poppy then he's a fuckin idiot.

Well, a hugely powerful body like the Catholic Church had kept child abusing priests out of the courts for decades up until recently. Was thinking about the Marc Dutroux case when I was in Belgium this week as well, although it was police incompetance and crimianlly poor systems of doing police work that were the root cause in the latter, but that also had an element of officialdom turning a blind eye.Its well documented that things like this at least throw a suspicious light on to what may have gone on in the care system from the end of the war up until the early 90s, but as Parky says theres a couple of bits in the media this week concerning all this that really haven't been seen before. Strange times to say the least.

Bit harsh on Wolfy Don't know what to think....I've heard from some of the older folk at work, who to be fair to them wouldn't know twitter from bitter, but who have been politically active their whole lives that Lord McAlpine was widely rumored to have been interfearing with boys as far back as they can remember. He's plainly not guilty of whatever horrors went on in North Wales, so is this carry on all a bit of a red herring?...were the third party that did all the legwork for the Newsnight article being paid by some else other than the BBC? Doesnt explain how the Newsnight editor let the story through, but after failing to expose Saville were they keen to be seen in a better light by the public in general? Did a hidden hand see this and choose their moment impeccably?...the bloke making the claims has been hawking this story around for years apparently, no one would touch it because it couldnt be proved, then sudddenly its on Newsnight?... How am I doing Parky?

So you're of the opinion that the various claims on the internet have some basis, and theres a bit of a operation going on by "the establishment" to muddy the waters and and in so doing protect those who have been abusing kids for decades?...

Was that you?! Billy Ray Cyrus wasnt cool 20 years ago and he still isnt

thats made me laugh out load...think the kid next to me in the office thinks am a bit simple...

Aye, when we played Waregem we'd been drinking draught Leffe for 7 hours before the 2045 CET kick off...found ourselves stuffing confectionary from the shelves of a garage into our coats not long before kick off... I think we'd "forgotten" to eat Wouldnt say I wanted to wank into a sock, but I am looking forward to it hugely...getting the lunchtime Eurostar tomorrow and some other poor sod has the pleasure of driving me!

Theyre a big draw for me, it has to be said.... I do find it funny too though, Leonards mum got pissed with Tits McGee (above) and snogged Shledon in one we watched last night

I think all atheletes in single-competitive sports need to be self obsessed just to get to the top...the very best hide it well from the general public so they keep the sponsorship deals rolling in, doesn't look like Vicky managed it very well though. She needs to step out of the media spotlight for a bit, but going straight from an Olympic podium on to a live BBC tv dancing contest in front of millions suggests she likes the attention a bit too much...not a good combination for the old mental health I'd imagine.

Cheer up MT! .....maybe we'll get a part-time window cleaner from Kilmarnock or something More than likely...not many clubs can dig their heels in like that...and he did have champions league football at Lille.

Quoted in French newspaper L'Equipe on Tuesday, Lille right back Mathieu Debuchy has been talking about his abortive move to Tyneside in the summer - and how he doesn't anticipate a mid-season switch: "I fought to go to Newcastle, but the President (of Lille, Michel Seydou) didn't want it. I didn't want to end up in conflict..." "Yes I was disappointed - I hope that there will be other opportunities. Asked if the deal could be revived in the January transfer window, Debuchy (who is under contract until 2015) said: "The moment has gone, I'm now 200% committed to Lille. I don't want to leave for the sake of it, I really wanted to go to Newcastle - next year it isn't certain that I'll go

Honestly, with a bit of pace and athletic abiltity you can become a multi millionaire in football by just doing that, its what coaches and managers love. I remember an article about Stephen Clemence who played in the top divison for Spurs and Brum for a decade, and his only attribute as a footballer was his ability to retain posession. Its the holy grail of football. And thats why Jonas is the first name on the sheet every week. A mate of mine played in goal for Poole Town u18s in the early 90s with Jody Craddock. There were two other players in that side who played league football, Simon Cooper for Cheltnham and Christer Warren for Bournemouth. Neither of them were particularly gifted, and pace let them down at the top level, but the key to both their little claims to fame was a true desire to be a professsional and,again, they sat in the middle of the park playing it simple. Its fair to say their careers were well and truly on the slide when they came across me breathing beer fumes all over them on a Sunday morning

Or people were less likely to feel sorry for themselves, which leads to the modern type of "depression", if am reading J69 correctly. I do think thats the case, we had fuck all when I was a kid but were nowhere near "poor", am sure most folks on here were the same. I do come across some right self pitying so and so's nowdays, for who if everythings not fabulous dahling its a pretty big problem. The last 3 girls I've been involved with were on medication when I met them....I'll let others put add their own punchline to that

No need to get party political about all this....it may be the Tories doing most of the alleged abusing but Edward Heath had been an MP since the 1950s...if the likes of him had been getting away with abusing kids for 60 years or so then the Labour governments of the 60s and 70s were complicit in any cover there may have been.

Why? they get away with the type of physical assaults in rugby every week which, if you did it to someone in the street, you'd be jailed. You appear to think football is, or possibly should be, different?

Very kind of you to say. As I said his folks have clammed up over it, never mention him so the rest of us have stopped asking. I last saw him on Boxing Day 2010, and he looked older than me,about 10 years his senior. He was able to communicate quite well, and gave me a big hug when he came into the house which nearly finished me. I think his mother wanted him to go into hospital at the time, and it looks like she got her way, but thats pretty much all we know.

My cousin had a "psychotic episode" smoking dope and is now hospitalised. His parents won't talk to the rest of the family about it too much, theyre heartbroken; he was playing for Scotalnd u21s at rugby at the time, its really sad. Do you know what sort of treatment he may be getting? its been going on years now, we dont really know whats happening.

Its pretty worrying no its not...relegation is pretty worriying I realise expecatations have been raised after last season but we should just chill the fuck out wand wait and see what happens.

I dont feel one way or the other about LFC, but we've got 4 points out of the last two league games and we've been shite really. They ddint bother us too much yesterday but they played well last week v Everton and deserved more. Another couple of strikers are what they need, not sure about Huntelaar, didnt realise he's 30 next birhtday. But it is amusing to look at their answers when it was suggested that Pardew wouldve been a good appointment. For my money he's light years in fron of Rogers because he's a horses-for-courses pragmatist.Thats why Demba starts every game, becauase he's a beast and a top class finisher. Rogers got rid of Andy Carroll for the same reasons. A "playing philosophy" hasnt won a fuckin thing for decades and never will.