Kevin Carr's Gloves

I think Rodders is an idiot and if we play for a draw we will get thumped.

If you read all of what I said I don't actually think that. All I know is you don't get anyone more selfish than a smoker. What a load of bollocks Absolutely true. All think that their right to smoke outweighs everyone else's right to clean air. Nothing more ridiculous than some nutter chuntering about 'clean air' while tramping the smog of some innter city... Nothing more ridiculous than those that equate needing to work in a populated area with wanting to be able to eat in a restaurant or drink in a pub without breathing in the poisonous fumes of an activity which has no benefits.

If you read all of what I said I don't actually think that. All I know is you don't get anyone more selfish than a smoker. What a load of bollocks Absolutely true. All think that their right to smoke outweighs everyone else's right to clean air. Even if that were true, which it isn't, how would that make them any more selfish than a non-smoker who owned a massive gas guzzler of a car or any number of equally or more selfish individuals. If you'd said some smokers are very selfish, you'd be right. To state "you don't get anyone more selfish than a smoker" is totally preposterous. But that would be an exception not a generalising fact. Look at the uproar from the smokers at the announcement at the smoking ban. And those that continue to flaunt it.

If you read all of what I said I don't actually think that. All I know is you don't get anyone more selfish than a smoker. What a load of bollocks Absolutely true. All think that their right to smoke outweighs everyone else's right to clean air.

Did anyone see on the big breakfast once this pad thing a guy used to help him play the guitar? I am sure it wasn't a dream.

If you read all of what I said I don't actually think that. All I know is you don't get anyone more selfish than a smoker.

If they really wanted more attacking football they should make it 3 points a win and 0 for a loss and 0 for a draw. Teams would sharp learn how to score.

I would like a return to terraces Think if it was done it would be limited and maybe in the part at the front of the east and west stand. As to policing just make it an all season ticket area.

If this is true it will have a bad effect on LFC. Players might think twice about joining a club where they get you to sign a contract at the end of a gun barrell.

With two major differences: Despite now only 25% or so of people who are smokers (compared to how many who drink?), the burden smoking caused on the NHS is far, far higher than for drinking. It is amajor cause of stroke, heart attack, lung cancer, and literally dozens of other diseases. Have you ever heard of passive drinking? Not saying alcohol doesn't cause major problems, but you can't really compare it to smoking. Drink-driving, alcohol related abuse/violence. I'm not too fussed about the ban tbh, but smoking related illnesses cost the NHS £1.5bn, smoking revenue is £7bn http://www.nosmokingday.org.uk/downloads/s...oppingfacts.pdf This has the numbers different. it deifferentiates between £8,000 million and £1.5 Billion. http://www.sunblock99.org.uk/sb99/people/J...nd/ji_bill.html This site explains an american billion is 1000,000,000 and a british billion is 1,000,000,000,000 Now I am not saying that is definitely the case here but is does cast a shadow on Forests figures.

I agree completely its aged badly but its still funny in much more parts than just the Bambi episode. My favourite was the party one. The scene with Rick with the mousey telescope is one of the funniest of all time. Oh Warlock it's you. Come on in Neil man and take the tit off ya heed. It's dated but there was fuck all like it at the time and as meenzer and kcc mentioned it set the standard for which others have developed further. The punk of sitcom is so true. What was the shite with Julia Sawahla playing an Australian barmaid? Last orders or something with Al Murray. Who is incidentally a public schoolboy twat who likes to take the piss out of the working class.

Is that a gay euphamism? Round of applause for the man. I typed it before reading the rest of the thread. Bloody hell make one mistake and they treat you like you're rain man. Being slower on the gay innuendo uptake than Wacky is something to be proud of, frankly. No because when I am at a party with mine and the wifes gay friends I like to know what they are talkling about. Can imagine them saying flick the subbuteo and me going "I remember that it was great". Looking like a right mong.

I've not read that one. Who's it by? It sounds like a Postmodern theory of history. I can't stand it myself - very contradictory. Reading Keith Jenkins did my head in. Its by C. Behan McCullagh. Yeh its part of postmodernism, load of shit in my opinion too. Got a lecture in an hour called 'Historical Knowing'. Christ on a bike! Oh aye, we've had History theory modules as well - every f*cking year. Just to rub salt in the wound, just had an hours seminar on the same topic. Post-modernism is absolutely ridiculous, the truth does not exist! "I am pretty sure it's out there somewhere Scully"

Is that a gay euphamism? Round of applause for the man. I typed it before reading the rest of the thread. Bloody hell make one mistake and they treat you like you're rain man.

Bloody magnificent news. It is brown trouser time like. Told the wife not to have a hot bath yesterday.

Is that a gay euphamism?

Bloody southerners worse than foreigners tbh.

I think you are confusing real life with escape to victory.

I personally think he will improve and start playing well again.

I assume you mean the new re-make. Yip How did Hugh Laurie become such a hollywood star.

Aye thats very true. We should point at the French instead tbh. Or the Swiss. Where were the Jamaicans when we needed them tbh? Fighting for the allies. All the colonies provided men.

you missed an important word - I've put it in brackets for you. Without mentioning the debts that Chelsea and Liverpools new owners inherited, and manures now have, and Arsenals also now have. Hey - but keep making things up Tell you what mate, you may use Spurs as your yardstick, which is a bit odd anyway, but I wouldn't swap our club for theirs, or their last decade for ours, would you ? As per usual Leazes you're twisting things in your own childish way, you add a word to my post so that you can argue about it even though you put it there. I'll try and explain it to you so you don't get to confused. Arsenal and Spurs have better squads than us, they've built these squads without having to go into debt to do so (ie not borrowing to fund player transfers, understand?) they've done it by using a DOF to spot bargain players and help set up a top class scouting network, I think we should do the same. It isn't hard to get your head around. You speak about Chelsea having debt when Abramovich took over but they did exactly the same as us, borrowed money to fund player transfers, it came out after that if Abramovich hadn't bought the club when he did they would have gone into administration. did you think Ken Bates was a good chairman? As usual, you whinge on about a few clubs that have done better than us. That is all. A few clubs, not dozens, or more, a few. Everybody wants to match these clubs. We have came closer than most. We all want to match them. In your naive desperation to match them, you make things up and overstate the "failure" of your own club, which the vast majority of other fans would like to have matched, and completely fail to grasp that you actually support a good club, one of the best, such is the modern NUFC fan - like you - who whinge on like bairns that qualifying for europe and buying major England players is "shit". You should give yourself a good shake mate - and some of your chums - and understand this. Sadly, it will take a shit board to come in and make you realise just what complete rubbish you have been spouting. As usual, some people on here will understand, but I don't expect the idiots on here to understand, nor the KK bandwagon jumpers. I'm not interested in comparing us to Spurs and their fcuking "planning" BTW, give me Alex Ferguson or Arsene Wenger as manager instead anyday. I want to bring issue with this comment that you consistently bring up Leazes. Now, I have to say I agree with a fair amount of what you say, that consistent qualifying for European competition is a indictation of the club doing fairly well, and that changing things won't necessarily bring about success, but as for using the purchasing of "major" England internationals as some sort of gauge of success is wide of the mark. Firstly, considering the national teams recent performances in the finals of major competitions that signing these useless feckers wouldn't seem to be the most successful of strategies. Secondly, and most importantly, is that these players usually bear ridiculously high price tags, way way out of proportion with their actual ability. They also usually carry delusions of their own abilities, built up by this nations media. Personally I'd prefer to see the signing of lesser known talented individuals that have been scouted and identified to improve the squads ability, for example N'Zogbia, Krul. Admittedly we can't just sign young players, we do need experience, but it is possible to create an effective side from lesser known players, and some would argue you'd have a better team because of it. The reference to "England players" denotes by implication "quality players", as in the past when we had quality players we sold them, due to having a shit board who created such a shit club that they all saw their futures elsewhere, and the shit board was happy to take the money, look for replacements in the lower leagues and use the rest to either build a stand or keep the club solvent. Instead of showing ambition and trying to attract supporters and fill the ground and play in europe. However, I take your point, which is that more foreigners are playing in the top league now and so there are many more quality players than just the English ones. Scouting younger players is an admirable and worthy concept, I agree with you, of course I do, but spotting and developing these players is the difficult part. We have tried this approach but most of them either fail through not being good enough, not developing enough, or have the wrong attitude and not enough desire to succeed. I don't look on this as a failing of the club though, because this happens at most clubs. The Leeds side under Don Revie was successful and was built on a platform of young players who all came through together. The ManU side that won the European Cup in 1999 was the same. The Everton team who won the League, Cup Winners Cup and may have had a shout in the European Cup if not for the ban was also composed of a lot of youth players who come through together. I think that this is not the normal thing though, it is quite rare, and however good a scouting network you have, is probably almost lucky that all of this falls into place. We won the FA Youth Cup in 1985, and only Gazza came through and played at the top level. Joe Allon had the next half decent career but spent most of his career in the lower leagues. Brian Tinnion too. To be fair, Taylor is coming through, you mention Zoggy having been spotted and brought in, add [hopefully] Edgar to that list who most of us think has promise, Given who was brought in as a young keeper, and that is 4 players who could be first team regulars, and good quality ones, in a years time if Edgar steps up. Lastly, England performance in competitions lately has been better than in the past. After losing in Mexico in 1970 they didn't qualify for either the 1974 or the 1978 Finals. If anything, I would say the best England team in the last 20 years was the 1990 team with the 3 ex NUFC players all playing a major part in it. It was certainly the best run on paper ie reaching the Semi Final and with a bit of luck could have made the Final. Why don't you see it as a failure of the club. I don't know the stats but our inability in the recent past to develop young talent has been woeful. Oh and Shay was an established well nown keeper when we bought him

Got to agree there.

I think he was blinded a bit by his hatred of all things British and Mr Churchill in particular. But hey it's not like I haven't been blinded by that kind of stuff in the past.

Is that the one with Chow Yun Fat (sp) in it?