peasepud

Its not though, this isnt the official line, its the line thats put about in the background, the line that is being told by the bankers, by the advisors and by those involved with Ashley. Anyone enquiring about the club is told "hand us £80m and its yours, lock stock and barrel". You say, "like many" however up until this bid (should we raise the capital) none have been serious actual bids.

Just sign up and he'll be gone by January

What a load of shit. Only Enrique and S Taylor are Premier League quality. Can you not remember how utterly awful these players were last season? Sunderland spent over 80m when they came up and just survived. It would take a similar level of investment for us. This

Can you really see this making him think one morning "oh these dont like me i think i'll sell"?? NO He will when and only when we get promoted and someone pays him well over 100mil for the club. Until then we can only make it as uncomfortable and embarrassing for him as possible. Not exactly true, he will sell as soon as someone offers him what he is looking for, which at this moment in time is £80million. dont think he will unfortunatley. he'll hang on and try and get promotion to sell "the product" at a better price. Fat lad will only sell us for that if we dont get promoted. but of course nobody will buy us for that whilst we are in the CCC. catch 22 i'm afraid!! No he will sell, trust me, we know how much we need and what the terms are, its simply a case of raising the cash. The man is desperate to sell.

And then what though? you keep saying this, that we should protest, protest, protest until he sells. The problem is that nobody (until now) has realistically attempted to buy the club, as much as I hate the fat twat I dont expect him to hand the keys over and say "there you go lads sorry about relegation and all that like" So the only way to get him to sell is to find him a buyer. Something you're slagging us off for.

Can you really see this making him think one morning "oh these dont like me i think i'll sell"?? NO He will when and only when we get promoted and someone pays him well over 100mil for the club. Until then we can only make it as uncomfortable and embarrassing for him as possible. Not exactly true, he will sell as soon as someone offers him what he is looking for, which at this moment in time is £80million.

Some Acca quotes..... Also on the same day.... Before the Palace game.... or the classic Well done on predicting Harewood however you couldnt have been further from the truth with the drop in quality statement. At the end of the day, many see us as capable of going up however nobody other than you believes we will piss the league, as proven by dropping points already at home.

Were you at the game Acca?

So we should play snooker to remember our fallen heroes?

Taylor back, Harewood to start !!

What the fuck you doing holidaying at Gatwick?

She would rip your balls off and use them as earrings (admittedly very small earrings)

Isnt that a little bit wasted seeing as the whole threads about when we buy the club and you're installed as President.

This, fair enough missing it if the bloody NUST had organised a mass boycott instead of trying to remove the club from his greasy fingers through means that actually stand a chance of getting rid. As they havent arsed themselves I say go to the game. North East corners the place to be Useless feckers!

Congrats mate, Ive ignored this thread as I thought it was about them little Nintendo Wii characters

Why is it that the two have to be mutually exclusive? I want the fat man out as much as, if not more than you do. I and the others on the committee have arguably done more towards removing them than you have yet because you now want something doing then you sit and slag us off for not jumping to your beat. Same argument as ever mate, if you dont join up then you have no right to demand anything. You want to protest then do it but a crisp tenner says I wont see you anywhere near SJP with a banner in your hand. Imagine this scenario, you see a house you really really want to buy but you havent got the cash and the owner really doesnt like you, you're in discussions with the big bank round the corner into backing you and a few mates with cash to chip in. Do you bide your time, pull the cash together and convince those you're dealing with that you can be trusted to own a house of that calibre? or Go round to the huse, smash the windows and tell the owner that you're going to buy the club and he better get the fuck out? Rocket science?

Barca, president voted in every three years or so and they assemble a board from there. Theres all sorts of rules and stuff that Im not 100% with but thats the basis of it. All however are ultimately responsible to the Trust, an overseeing body that has no no say in the day to day running but can call the likes of an AGM if the fans dont believe things are going right. By that I dont mean, we lose three games on the bounce and havent bought Ronaldo so we sack the board but in the event of us disasterously making stupid decision after stupid decision.

Oh aye but when I bang on about it week in week out Im a kiddy hating bastard! This is actually one of the first things Im personally putting forward if when we own it. Ball boys could be the difference between winning a game or not, in fact although Id not go as far as saying it would have happened, that additional point last season would have been more likely with proper trained ball boys who get the ball out quick when we're behind and take a little more time when we're not. Dry the ball for our throw ins, dont for theirs etc etc In fact Craig is going to be brought in as a consultant to train the kids on the old skool methods. As for the unemployed idea, I wouldnt give it to the unemployed as such but I would go for those that have taken part in community work (not the Joey Barton kind) in the last few weeks. Something along the lines of that Orange Rock Corps

They arent stocks or shares, thats what makes it fan ownership. If you sell shares then all you'll end up with is another Mike Ashley coming along when it suits them and buying up the shares. This is one member one vote, if you've invested £2500 or £25m you still get the same level of say and ownership. What you obviously get more for your £25m is interest, everyone gets the 2% but for some 2% will be £50 a year while others it will be £500,000. The scheme is aimed at all Newcastle fans home and abroad, theres no constraints on that. As in every investment theres a risk, there always will be. The difference as I see it is that we have a say ourselves in how big a risk that is. A football club makes money depending on its success on the pitch, we all know that. Sensible investment into the club with a good management structure and strong links to the community has a better chance of increased turnover than one thats lurching from one disaster to the next. The way I see it, my £25k pension is at the mercy of some investor who can and probably will make me more than 2% but who could at the drop of a hat lose a good chunk of it on a dodgy decision. At least with our football club we can see how thats going, can see when things are going wrong and can make our voices heard if its looking ropey. As for a local bank offering loans, who knows what next week will bring?

Ok, so we have a thread on how we're going to attempt a buyout and part of the plan is to install a president, selected by the fans to run the club. If you were installed tomorrow as that person, what would be the first thing you'd do? For me, Id raffle off the chance to operate the crane that will rip down the Sports Direct logo from the Gallowgate, sorry Sports Direct.com stand. I reckon we could make a few million in ticket sales alone, add to the fact we'd beam the whole thing live on Pay Per View and theres the running costs for next year sorted. What would you do?

He's not?? Here Alex man, careful Snakeys got a dodgy ticker man!

KD you are right to be wary, Id call anyone who was blindly saying "Im in" a fool. What I dont understand though is this "theres more holes in the plan..." statement, how? you've not seen the plan other than a basic overview. Wait until Monday and get the facts before trying to blow it out of the water however I can assure you that you, me and everyone else on here that isnt involved in high finance will have problems doing that. Its been pored over by the great and the good of pensions, football investment and the like and all want to be involved. None of the companies, banks and pension companies have come back and said "Im out" all have seen it as a workable and credible way of running a football club, more importantly all have seen it as something people would invest in. The sustainability has already been reviewed and we believe that there is a workable plan in place, this football club could sustain itself, theres currently 44k coming through the gates, we know that as a Premiership club, even a struggling one we can clear 50k every game (3k of which have to be taken out of the picture as theyve already handed the next 2 years money over to fatty). Theres no issue with getting the club on an even keel, smarter people than me (thats just about everyone then) have gone through the plan with a fine tooth comb and they are very interested in taking part. Theres also no reason why there has to be a limit on the numbers involved, as I said earlier, it only takes 8k investors to raise 200million, every additional 40 @£25,000 each gets you another million pound but results in an annual payout of only £2,000 in interest payments. Compare that to the £120,000 that we pay for each million of the overdraft and the figures start to look very rosy. This club has been in debt for years, theres nothing to say that under the fans ownership it wouldnt go into debt again, what is a definite is that under this scheme we wont go into debt for making shady deals, underhand purchases of South American crocks to keep agents happy or paying £30k a week to some cockney dwarf because hes a mate. Any debt would be because we were purchasing players, players who with the right scouting structure and management team would have a good chance of actually playing a game for us and not just sit on the sidelines for "PR purposes". Add in the other plans to turn the club into the hub of the community, bring it back to the fans overall and make it the focal point of the city. Football academies across the region, annual youth tournaments and working within the community day in day out will all help ensure that the local young talent doesnt go astray. Some of those will make it and go on to play for the club others would be sold on as promising players and recoup the outlay. More importantly it returns the feel good factor back to the club, that in turn increases ticket sales, shirt sales and other money coming into the club. The big difference between this and other share schemes there've been is that this is a long term investment not a quick hit on the shares market (which failed so badly last time). Its a vehicle for people to invest knowing they have a good chance of making a little bit of interest on it, at the same time as making a big difference at the club. Pension funds are things people put their money into and forget about, not check each day to see if its worth taking it out, nobody is going to get rich out of this plan, my £25k will probably earn me a little bit less in the long term than where its sitting now but Im lucky I have a good pension with work and can afford to move what is a small chunk of it into this. Maybe in time, I could look to move more, who knows? what I do know is that for what probably amounts to literally pennies when Im 65 I can be making a difference to the football club I love. Snakeys right though, if this works then it will be the most monumental thing to happen, not only to Newcastle United but British football. We are being watched closely by the world of football here. There are a number of clubs dying to do this but waiting for someone else to step up and go for it, Liverpool, Man U and others have been looking to buy their clubs for ages, now they're desperate to see if we make it, all are interested in the method though. If it works then all the fans will be hailed for years to come as the people who saved this club, if it drops miserably and becomes a total abject failure then there a dozen of us who will be mocked but what the fuck? we gave it our best shot and failed, as long as nobody else is out of pocket then theres no harm done. If you dont have concerns about the scheme then you're a fool and can just bung your cheques to peasepud at toontastic and I'll make sure theyre put to good use. The rest of you though just need to read all the stuff that will be coming out, go speak to one of the financial advisors we are employing and get the full info and what it means to you personally. Then go and speak to financial people you know that you trust and get them to confirm that its not some scam. I would hope that nobody blindly follows us in this, I havent. Even though I know everyone of the people involved at our end and trust them I read everything I was given before committing my backing to it and more importantly committing a chunk of my future. I would hope you all do the same, if you're happy with the idea but cant afford to invest on your own then look to get others involved and make up a collective, even if you just cant get involved at all then please back it with your support.

I think it's a 4D image rather than a tradition scan pic. Pud? It sure is, have to go again for a 2nd one though because the little bugger wouldnt show his face, had his hands up in front of it, feet up there at one stage oh and then he turned round, licked the wall of the womb and scratched his nads. Thats my boy!