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aye, when we're 9 points clear at end of September, I will expect an apology ok ? And at the same time as you're getting that apology I'll be enjoying a wild threesome with Angelina Jolie and Felicity Kendal having met the pair while they were out shopping in Walker Netto. We can all dream cant we? at least mine has a slim chance of becoming reality.

sums up how i feel. we're pretty well placed to mount a promotion challenge as things stand but a lot can still change between now and when the transfer window shuts. nightmare scenario come sep 1st is ashley still in charge, half our first team squad sold and no decent replacements brought in. That then results in us losing a fair few games and ending up lower mid table with further reduced attendances come January, Ashley shits himself at how little money is coming in and as a result sells the remaining squad replacing them with kids on YTS. do you delight in being miserable or what ?? Im a realist, I can only be pleasantly surprised, you on the other hand have a season of disappointments ahead if you honestly think we even stand a chance of promotion this season under Ashley.

So that would be players that were released because they werent good enough for their current club and nobody rushed in to sign during the transfer window? ahhh got ya so theyd be SHIT then? And other teams are forced to sell us a player we want? Do you seriously think that any team will sell any player outside the window when they cant replace them? Oh yeah they will sorry, when the player is SHIT. Already covered by Dr Gloom, so any player thats actually any good will likely be recalled at some stage, if they're not then they're probably SHIT.

sums up how i feel. we're pretty well placed to mount a promotion challenge as things stand but a lot can still change between now and when the transfer window shuts. nightmare scenario come sep 1st is ashley still in charge, half our first team squad sold and no decent replacements brought in. That then results in us losing a fair few games and ending up lower mid table with further reduced attendances come January, Ashley shits himself at how little money is coming in and as a result sells the remaining squad replacing them with kids on YTS.

Its a well documented FACT we need to strengthen the squad isnt it? So if the take over collapses MA would HAVE to protect his investment by re-investing...maybe with some of the money he raked in? Its no joke...its fact! August 2008: We needed to strengthen two or three areas, we didnt - FACT. January 2009: We needed to strengthen the same couple of areas, we sold - FACT May 2009: Chronicle, NUSC and NUFC work to ensure the atmosphere is as big as possible at remaining games, Portsmouth & Boro are successful, gaining 4 points as a result Ashley thinks we're safe and refuses to invest anything to create better atmosphre, we lose 1 nil and that single point is enough to send us down - FACT August 2009: We're dying on our arse, he sells anything that moves - FACT

With the distinct probability that by September we will change manager ending up with Kinnear, deja fucking vu if ever I saw it.

Force Moat and anyone else interested into a corner

Seriously? people actually fell for that?

The team out on Wednesday will not be the same one out today, come the end of the month and I dread to think what it will look like. You just had to take a look at Taylor doing his rounds at the end, normally hes smiling and giving it large when we'd won, not yesterday the kid was nearly blubbing, thats because hes gone, he knows it was his last game for us. Lose him from the back and suddenly Sideshow Bob looks a lot dodgier. All our players managed to achieve yesterday is additional interest in their price tags. Even Shola may now become an interesting proposition for some Premiership club. Walkover? bollocks.

Big Toon fan isnt he?

Exactly. Harper pisses me off on a weekly basis by taking too long to come off his line, so it must piss off his teammates at times too. Someone needed to say something because it doesn't look like the coaches were...it being Joey though, he probably just didn't go about it the right way I think the second stamp on the fingers was going a tad too far

They didnt fall for this did they? http://www.slbenfica.pt/Informacao/Futebol...=Shola%20Ameobi Well thats Biffas credibility well and truly fucked.

Twat I was about to post the same thing word for word.

hmmmmm my wife seems to be in my best friends house, wonder what they're doing? how long before we see the first divorce citing Latitude as the reason? or worse the first murder? even without that I can imagine the phone calls? "where are you" "oh still stuck at work pet, be here another hour at least" "strange, when did you start working as a barman at the Red Lion like?"

To say Krul is better than Harper after 2 or 3 good performances if unfiar. I would agree that Krul should keep his place and be given a chance to prove that he is the better keeper (which he may well be) but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Agreed, based on one performance we dont know if Krul has it in him to be great, we do know though that hes earned another chance to prove it. By dropping him straight back to the bench we're basically saying "get yourself away lad, theres Premiership teams that want to give you first team football".

Is no one concerned the club will be saddled with the debt? As you mentioned it doesn't sound like he'll have any money to invest in players. We all want Ashley out but the club can't take many more years of under investment. Well if this is what the clubs like with no debt, then fuck me bring the debt on. Nearly every team has debt. Even the Glazers borrowed the money to buy Manure. Man U and Liverpool are saddled with nearly £1.5bn of bank loans. Shepherd secured loans on the back of an almost guaranteed home attendance and the banks where the first paid when the ST money rolled in. Thats the problem though, Man U and Liverpool are saddled with the debt of buying themseleves. Their owners borrowed money to buy them then passed the loans onto the clubs, Im amazed its allowed and franly Im amazed Ashley didnt do it with us. Its like me buying a car off you by borrowing the money off you and then asking you to pay it back. When I get bored and sell the car though Im getting the money.

The committee said a few things which they'd already voiced, (and to be fair, nobody really disagrees with), however, the membership also put across the view that the nusc should maybe become a little more militant and use the contacts in the media we've gained, I think the issue became clouded with the lads on the committee getting a little defensive, (understandably) and misreading the intentions of the majority of the criticism, basically, from my point of view, everybody is fighting for the same cause, there was just a bit of healthy debate about the direction we are/should be taking. And that my friend is exactly how I would have put it. There was no mass arguments, the NUSC is not "dead in the water" and if you want proof of that you just need to ask the main person putting the alternative argument across tonight, Michael Martin. Michael was arguing the corner for protest and doing it well, to be fair the whole thing sort of took the lads on the top table by surprise and thats where you had a sort of "rabbit in the headlights" period. This meant it was difficult for them to group their thoughts and it came across (in my view) as a little frayed. Ask Michael tomorrow if he thinks the NUSC is needed and is a valid organisation and I have no doubt he will state 100% yes. For the record though we are not saying we should "say nowt", what was made clear is that theres a lot more going on at this precise moment than most of us (myself included) realise, a lot of stuff involving the NUSC and people working to get this club sold and away from Ashley once and for all. What was being said is that we must look at the bigger picture, yes we all hate the fat lad but at the same time we need to be careful in the short term as to how the NUSC is perceived and who it pisses off especially if the protests are not going to gain any viable results. Thats the main problem, as much as many people would like to protest, Ashley has already shown that he doesnt care what we say or do therefore all we could end up doing is giving more fuel to the press and getting this football club into the headlines for all the wrong reasons again with no gain as far as Fat Ash is concerned. The fact there was a relatively small meeting compared to the original one shows to many that the calls for protest are not as big as thought otherwise I would have expected 250 hostile members in there calling for blood. There wasnt anything like that and (based on the general feeling and the fact 70-80% of those there didnt speak) I would say that it was a fairly even split for and against. I could be wrong but thats the feeling I get. For the record these are my views on the thing. 1. I agree with Michael Martin, not on the protesting itself but that its for the members to decide whether we lead protests or not, its not my decision or even the chairmans decision but the members. What has to be done though is for both sides of the argument to be put to them equally and fully to allow a proper decision because word the question even slightly ambiguously and you'll get a problem and once we commit to a decision then there can be no turning back, we stick with it for an agreed period of time and all support the decision. 2. IF the decision is made for the NUSC to co-ordinate any protests then it has to be with the full backing of all fanzines, all websites and as many individuals as possible otherwise it will not work and the only people to come out of it badly will be the NUSC, that would then jeopardise the other "things" that are going on and potentially put this football club back another couple of steps. 3. Personally, I dont think protesting will work but if we do go down the route then we need to be clever about it, we need to hit him hard and where it hurts. Theres other threads on here which talk about it and I havent got a clue who proposed it but they were spot on, we hit Sports Direct and anyone else associated with Ashley business wise. Standing outside the ground with banners will merely give SSN something to focus on, bringing the charvers out with their bedsheets. Hit the shops, hit them hard and make sure he loses money and credibility. Get the support and backing of other football clubs fans, Liverpool, Man U etc are all looking to protest at times in the future, they scratch our backs, we'll back them when the time comes. So finally, with the benefit of what I've been told I would say that protesting now is not something that is within the NUSC and more importantly NUFC's interests, thats not saying we should kiss fat bastards arse, its merely that providing a show of banners, boycotts and marches will not in my own opinion sway fatty at all, if anything I think he'll dig his heels in further and if these are led by the NUSC then when/if the time comes for certain things to move forward we could be in a much worse bargaining position.

Im gonna fucking ban you at this rate.

Agreed, its coming to the point where anybody whos ever had anything to do with the club will be putting their name forward. Christ, we'll have the ghost of Justin Fashanu sticking an application in if it goes much longer.

You may have seen yesterdays Ronnie front page, if not here it is again > http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-...72703-24380936/ Sophies appeal is something that the NUSC is trying to help and on Saturday 30 of her family and friends will be carrying out a sponsored walk from Stadium of Light to SJP and should arrive at about 2pm. We're waiting to see if they will have permission to collect outside the ground but either way they will be collecting somewhere, if you see them please stick a quid or two in their buckets. They are also collecting old mobile phones and now gold (broken necklaces, earrings etc) so if you've got an old Nokia or Motorola and that old Run DMC style chain that now looks a bit naff on a 45 year old accountant why not drop them over to them too. You can also donate online at http://www.justgiving.com/Sophie-appeal/ dont forget to tick the Gift Aid box to maximise your donation.

As did Given and Bassong.

This is not a soooper fan comment but you really need to get to SJP to see the fucking apathy this cunt has created. It's not obvious on the telly. As I said I've seen it in action at St Pauli and it's a beautiful thing and nothing is going to change until this cunt is pushed. There's not much I'd love more than to see a game at St James'. I'm completely across the feeling of apathy created by Ashley in my own life, but yes it probably would be eye opening to see it on a broader scale. Despite this I've perservered and watched every match we've played in over the past two seasons (and most matches for multiple seasons before when available). So I might not be across the feelings in Newcastle (though they're probably similar to mine) but I have seen the steady decline in player morale particularly after Keegan's departure last season. I definitely don't have all the answers, just putting my opinion (however ill informed others believe it to be) across. We all want the same thing. I agree we do and your opinion is as valid as anyone elses here but as sammyb points out you have to be here to fully understand. The telly does not convey the feeling of hoplessness that you got when you were sat inside the ground on a matchday. The passion, the noise, the sheer devotion for the team didnt exist in a number of games. Not because we love the team any less, not because we dont have it in us but because its been suppressed by both fear and loathing of these men (I hold Llambretta as equally guilty as his employer now). Fear that they could (and did) take us further into the shit and loathing for everything they say and do. Until television manages to transmit emotions then you're stuck with a view that only gives you a tiny fraction of what it feels like to be a Toon fan, thats not your fault and its not ours but it is a fact of life.

club statement: Mike Ashley today announced a revolutionary way forward for the club, Ossie ardilles, Graham souness, Glenn roeder and Jack charlton are to take Joint charge of the club. Ossie will have the managers chair on a monday all day and a Thursday afternoon, souness taking charge on thursday mornings and Friday evenings. Glenn on a Wednesday and Tuesday mornings with big Jack taking every third Tuesday afternoon and all day Friday. Transfers will be dealt with on an alphabetical split with ardilles taking A-J, Glenn K-Sm, Graham U-V and Jack taking Z and all players coming from south America. Matches will be decided using regular bouts of rock, paper, scissors with the winner getting to make the next decision.

If only people hadn't kicked up a fuss when Poland was invaded eh? If we'd had a little less name calling and blame then who knows what....

The thing is though, fans representation is the long term aim of the NUST. Its what we're working toward and you rightly point out that it often (but not always) requires purchasing a stake in the club. You say that though as if its not doable. It is, we already have a number of major people who are willing to back us should the possibility arise. On top of that would be whatever could be raised from the members and you're looking at a serious possibility. What you propse is all well and good and in itself would be a good thing but the way you're putting it you seem to be saying that we should bin the idea of getting a seat on the board and lower our expectations. How do you know that the idea wouldnt be seen favourably by Moat (especially as he doesnt have the necessary readies to do this) or anyone else for that matter? Shy bairns get nowt as they say, more importantly though, as a kid what did you do when you wanted to borrow a fiver off your dad? Did you ask for a fiver? Or were you smart and ask for a tenner knowing that whatever you requested would be met with "howwwww much?!?!?!" only to have him barter you down to 6 quid! Go in there looking for board representation and who knows, you may just hit lucky, if not though then maybe you'll get the consolation prize of a Supporters Panel. Go asking for a Supporters Panel and you could get offered a five minute chat and a coffee once every six months.