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so are you saying you don't mind how many illegal immigrants are in the country, or, are you saying you don't think there is any ?

Sorry but that term annoys me, how do you appease an intellectual? Probably by not being a fuckwit. Conservative, Liberal, Intellectual. All these terms are spun until we just sound like a bunch of bipartizan children who scream if we don't get exactly what we want. Above all it stands in the way of reasonable debate. 31548[/snapback] my mistake, I meant to put in inverted commas

In my experience dogs will eat any shit - literally - and aren't the slightest bit parky

Souness in talking bullshit and backtracking on some load of crap he's previously said shocker!!! 31487[/snapback] one of many, how many can you think of so far... 1. I'm only interested in what happens when you cross the white line - I'm not having that on the training ground 2. Football is no secret, it's only about good players working hard, and I'm big on good players that work hard - football is more cat and mouse than it's ever been 3. I don't believe in wingers - Luque hogs the touchline and buys back Solano and before that isolates his top scorer on the right wing 4. Attitude is vitally important, as important as ability - Buys Babayaro, Faye and Moore Other pearlers are We need pace up front and width up front [having kicked out Bellamy and Robert for 4.5m quid the pair] We had to play too many kids tonight [after Lisbon ?] - no he didn't he had players out on loan and sitting in the stand This is the best squad of players I've ever managed, I'm not going to make wholesale changes here - a year later and he's sold 10 players and brought in 10 players

Is it trying to say that as we allow more immigration at the expense of British people emigrating, Britain will eventually become "less British" - something some of us have said for a while, while other woolly heads say it won't happen .... Or is it saying that the Americans have it right by allowing controlled immigration and demanding those accepted to adapt into their society rather than allowing themselves to be sucked into a divided society ? Either way, this article is talking about legal immigration, and totally ignoring ILLEGAL immigration, of the non tax paying type [as GF says, statistics concerning this prove nothing and are nonsense] ... while the vast majority of us are paying the taxes to support it Then again, I would expect some to turn a blind eye to the obvious dangers of this as they turn a blind eye to other things too Article obviously written by an ex CND supporting no-nothing naive intellectual appeaser

but he doesn't believe in wingers

yet more money required, to improve on the best squad of players he's ever had

Happy Birthday Alex

you got turned away because of the shorts and flip flops

pp, it won't be easy this as I'm sure you realise, think you will just have to do your best to stroke the cat gently etc sit it on your knee etc calm it down, rub the injection site gently, pinch a bit of skin and inject it as best you can - pinching gently is important because if you can do it well it might not feel the injection and in time may realise it's alright. Tall order but you never know. Giving it a small treat when it is over may be a good idea, even though it's for diabetes .... at least initially

Aye, it was nice to hear, and actually believe, that Shearer had such an impact on some of our recent signings. I'm also unnerved by the prospect of him just being given the club regardless of what his prospects look like - we'll just have to hope for the best on that front - I give him a 15% chance of being a very good/great manager. Clough at Sunderland... Christ, could've been a totally different world... *shudders* Oh aye, McCarthy does talk some rubbish about us, I just get the sense that his heart is near enough in the right place on the subject. Ken Bates, though... Why he was sticking his nose in our affairs, I don't know. That said, Robert is one subject that I basically side with Souness on. I gave up on him quite some time ago - I get annoyed that he's even put in the same bracket as Bellamy I'm quite happy about the current Eriksson situation - I've been saying he was crap for years now. What pisses me right off is that those who seek to defend him always say it's because he's foreign - total bollocks, it's because he is literally useless. I honestly think even Souness would do a better job than him. Thats one thing that I've always intended to concede, but haven't really had the opportunity. Whilst the net problem is very significant, our managers do at least get the opportunity to change much of the team around - with one or two exceptions (Sheerah!). Funnily enough, as I started to say previously, Souness has actually done reletively well on that front. The thing about us selling players, though, is that it is entirely Shepherd's responsibility - with regards to dealing with offers, negotiations, etc. However, obviously, there is more to selling than that and the whole club (Souness, Shepherd, past faces etc.) is guilty of un-necessarily slagging some of our players off, losing us millions in the process. Why none of them have any guile, I dunno. Conversely, I'm convinced we've lost a few million on Jenas because of our ridiculous reaction to Arsenal's interest. All this "we want £20m" bollocks just left us looking more stupid when he went for £7m. If we'd had Arsenal and Spurs (and others?) competing against eachother, I believe it could've been a figure closer to £11m. Now, that all said, we have sold many of our players for "good" reasons, reasons that meant they'd go for less than their natural talents would normally allow, so its reasonable to expect we'd have to pay more for better players (i.e. equivalent/better skills, much better characters meaning they play more matches, etc.). The point is, the better the manager, the more you'll sell your bad players for, and the less you'll spend on better replacements. 30757[/snapback] We have a very nice ground now, one of the best, and whether we like it or not, it is bound to impact money available to transfers. Personally, I was always in favour of building a new ground - I don't give a toss for tradition and staying at SJP - and now having been to the Millenium last April the thought we could have had a stadium like that for half the price....even my mate who I've always discussed this with and wanted to stay at SJP concedes a stadium like the MIllenium would have been canny ! Agree totally with the highlighted bit, it's spot on. Good managers don't just spot talent, they spot them before others

If its a direct quote then that is exactly what he's saying. Because he says it was "nothing to do with the fact i didn't get on with Souness" it means that even if that's not the reason he left, he didn't get on with him. 30916[/snapback] You're both making it mean what you want it to mean. Read it for what it is - an unfortunately phrased sentence. It's clearly been put to him that he didn't get on with Souness and all he's doing is saying "No, that's not why I left. It had nothing to do with me not getting on with Souness at all". But you two believe what you want to believe. 30927[/snapback] As i said if its a direct quote then he is saying he didn't get on with Souness, if its because he's unable to use the english language properly its hard for me (somebody who can) to decipher that from here! Personally i couldn't give a shit what he is or isn't saying and i'm not believing what i want to believe. If that was the case i'd have said Souness acted like a child with him and then drove him out the club for less than he was worth, but that happened with another player entirely 30931[/snapback] ... and I don't believe what I want to believe either but I certainly agree with that ...

Rob started the craze of "happy slapping" back in the 1930's as a kid, but it never caught on back then. 30918[/snapback] quite like the photo of him fishing in the river anarl

but Rob....most of the other posters agree with me !!!! Had a feeling it would be fudged like .........

he's saying - he didn't get on with Souness, but thats not the reason he left.

Attack mode...nah, not to you anyway

1. Why is it that cockney press, and other people who only wish to have a downer on Keegan, say he spend 60m quid and won nothing. The simple fact is, up to the point where we came 90 minutes from the title, he spent 42m That is not taking into account the players he sold, not the revenue his successful created. 2. Only stupid cockney arsesholes also pay no regard to the position the club were in, which was facing relegation to the old 3rd division, because they don't know and they don't want to know so f*ck them. 3. Over the last 10 years. The figures you seek are on NUFC.com. 4. The amount a manager spends, against "net" has its merits, but at the end of the day, the manager is being trusted to sell players he doesn't think are good enough, and then being allowed to spend x amount of money to improve the team. So, it's money he has spent, whatever you want to call it, thats a fact. If a manager sells a player for less than he is worth, then it's his judgement. He wil stand or fall on it. And it affects his spending power. If he can't replace the player for the amount he sold him for, he's a wanker. Full Stop. And obviously wrong to sell him. Going back to your point, I sense you are going to slag off Shepherd for only sanctioning NUFC to be the 3rd top spenders in the premiership over the last decade, only eclipsed by manure, and in the last few years, Chelsea. So I would like to ask you a fairly basic question. How much more money do you think the board at Newcastle need to allow their managers to spend, for you to accept they are backing them fully ?

oh dear

I know where you are coming from here. It's a great city alright, and we have so much pride we are blind to the bloody footbll clubs faults....never mind we can always just get ratarsed instead !! I loved the Keegan era, savoured it from day one, you could sense the unique atmosphere he created all the time, it chills me to the bone when I think about it. If we had won the league that year, we would have a totally different club to now, I really think he would have made us into a Shankly type dynasty. He knew what he was doing, and you know when he said something he meant it. You can't help but be cynical, of course thats what we need to do, I just hope he gets lucky when Souness goes, you never know. If Shearer has really played such a pivotal role in the signings of Owen and Parker, my reservations about his managerial potential have been eased a bit. One thing is for sure, if he turns out to be the new Shankly or Clough, he'll do it for Newcastle. Speaking of Shankly or Clough, if we had the club then that we have now, I;m pretty sure we would have been in for both of those. I went to see the mackems with my mate in 1976 a few times [he's a mackem] when they were relegated, and during the period when Bob Stokoe was sacked they were all singing "Brian Clough". Phew ! Just despair mate .. win the lottery and buy them all out will do for me.... when I do I'll take my rightful place running the club and being the manager you won't see a shambles any more I tell yer. I bet you now that Souness realises we are the biggest club he's managed ............ Havent' seen Shariah TV. And I only mentioned those 3 because i thought of them first, there are others. Your view of Winter is exactly the same as mine, he's a top class arse. Paul McCarthy, all he ever does is call Shepherd, Keegan, the club, he thinks Souness is good for Newcastle. I'd read enough by him, but a short while ago he wrote a piece about Souness doing a good job at Newcastle ... red rag to a bull...he's doing a good job alright if you want to keep Newcastle down. Ken f**king Bates is another cockney...whats he doing having a pop at Robert for blasting Souness....didn't stop to think whats he having a go at a club that doesn't concern him...Danny Baker, another cockney twat who says "keegan won nowt"...a bloody MILLWALL fan...how the hell does a Millwall fan know anything about Newcastle, these cretins look at us finishing 2nd in the league under Keegan and think Dalglish, Gullit, Robson and Souness did/are doing better...... AAAHHHHHHHHH.... I despise all of them............in fact, most of them slagged off Keegan when he was manager of England, applauded the appointment of Eriksson as a "tactical coach"....by "tactical" what hacks mean is "defensive"....now they are all saying Eriksson is crap. McCarthy certainly did, and so did a lot of others. Rant over. Bollocks to England.

... quite a few giving this one a miss .......

Good post mate, some good points. Regarding the mentality of the club [and some fans] I always despaired of the attitude in the past that everything was alright just so long as we had a centre-forward and gave manu, Liverpool etc a decent game. Small time thinking and not good enough. The only ambitious managers with a grasp on this was for me, Gordon Lee, and Arthur Cox could have done better if he had better support inside the club. I thought Keegan changed this attitude though, he had the backing of the board and fans and actually, although he spent a lot of money, almost every penny he spent was well spent, generated by his own success, and he was very much for building a proper team, rather than a one dimensional one. Unfortunately, Shepherds utterances about "Geordie nation" and the way he seems to see things tell me he is the old type of "supporter" who is indeed limited in his views and doesn't have the intelligence of the real demands of the modern game and the way it has changed. In short, I think he is thick. I thought he was thick when I first heard him and seen him on TV, then wondered if I was wrong when he backed Dalglish and Gullit with cash, but now realise my first impression was right. So, no, he isn't an ideal chairman. I know it sounds a poor defence saying we could do a lot worse, but quite simply we could. We could do a lot, lot worse. Thats why I point out the numerous ones who are worse, and the few who are better. There isn't too many. I don't know the answer, I wish I did. I just think that if he is appointing managers with proven reputations, backing them with cash, and we still win nothing and sack them, where does it go wrong. Just what are we doing wrong exactly ?? The remarks about Jimmy Hill don't surprise me - I missed that one this week - however much I despise cockney journalists who are too happy to print things undermining us - because they know how great we could be is the reason, they don't want us to threaten and beat their own darlings - I did think people who actually have been in the game like Hill has been would be more aware of how special Newcastle is and would be if we were to start winning serious competitions on a regular basis. And, they would be aware of the financial state of the club, and the fact that Keegan particularly generated his own spending money through winning games. I just find it amazing. I would have liked to have seen the faces of those who listened to the comments about it the club generating money, in fact I am very surprised they didn't argue, or maybe the fact they didn't proves my previous point. They know it's highly likely we did have it. Harry Harris, Paul McCarthy, Henry Winter....are 3 who all hate NUFC. Fact.

Don't disagree with most of what you say, and agree particularly with the bold bit. I only point out the money that they have backed their managers to those who say they don't back their managers!!!! Because they do, and the money proves it !! Look not just at transfers, but the stadium and the new training complex. It's all part and parcel of building a bigger club all round. Shepherd bugs me as much as anyone with his "geordie empire" rubbish... I wish he would just shut up and stay shut up too. See my past post concerning the choice of managers. We were all happy with the appointments and sackings at the time. Well, most of us anyway. Personally I agreed with Dalglish [although devastated at keegan leaving] and not happy with Gullit. Happy with Bobby Robson and completely dumbstruck at the appointing of Souness, I thought they were taking the piss or it was April 1st. Oh aye, see above. I just can't get my head around others who think the club has a bottomless pit of money just to go out and buy our way to everything. We have spent a lot of money in the last decade, as much as any of us are entitled to expect, but there comes a point where you have to look at the managers for the reason why it has been wasted, after all it is they who decide who they want to buy and sell, not Shepherd.

Not only pointing out how inferior the ones in the past were, but also pointing out that they have backed their last 5 managers to the hilt in the transfer market, more than anyone apart from Manu and Chelsea [only since Abramovic] and pretty much neck and neck with Liverpool. Why do some people not consider this anything other than backing their managers to the hilt ? Do you seriously think we should spend the money that manu and Chelsea have. Wise up and get real if you do. Thing is mate, most of us, the vast majority were quite happy with the appointments of Dalglish and Gullit at the time, so you can't call them now, if someone does then they are in no position to call the board for being incompetent if you thought the same as they did at the time. The only thing they can do further to that is allow them the money and backing they ask for and none of our last 5 managers has complained about financial backing or any other backing given to them. Now that is a fact. Even when gullit and Dalglish were sacked, the vast majority of us totally agreed with it.

clap clap clap for accepting mediocrity. Very good. I expect you are a Souness fan as well then .........

Agree, he was an entertainer at times but didn't delive anywhere near enough when it mattered, week in and week out. 29622[/snapback] .... and if you don't do this, you are indeed a heap of shit