LeazesMag

Fact is, after 46m quid or so in 12 months, we must be selling someone to help pay for Owen, and luque in the last week too. This is monopoly money mate.

Are they making arses of themselves......

bit daft that like man !

Always thought we should have got Carrick ... we have Parker and Emre now though. Would still like him at Newcastle but I think if Jenas has financed Owens move then we will have to get of Viana and someone else to find the money for Carrick now. Or do a swap like you say and get rid of Viana and someone else quickly. All wheeling and dealing isn't it ?

I think we will have to, financially, after today. And football wise, take the money while we can and take the risk. EDIT: I agree with sima, he must be to finance this deal. While thinking that Jenas may well find more with someone else than he's shown us, I don't think he was ever going to find it here anymore anyway, so it's a good deal to get rid and finance this one particularly, who can think it isn't ??????????

Well done Fat Fred

Who's hacked LM's account? 22628[/snapback] can I just say .....

UNBELIEVABLY SUPERB

It used to be the case that managers got until the end of Sept, or October time before they were sacked. A new boss came in, and he could take a fresh look at things, and make one or two quick buys to freshen things up, give people a boost, and quite often the new buys were just what was needed as he addressed the reason the ex boss was binned. The transfer window has changed all that, you now can't do that until half way through the season. I agree with you mate regarding losing the next few games, he will have to go, but it's another reason why those who are saying give him more time are wrong, you can't give them time, you only have until the end of August, or the new man has his hands tied. His time was up months ago, it was obvious he is a management pygmy, he has been for years. Also agree with Cali Mag and Renton, as usual.

History never repeats...I'd have said 6 months in a leaky boat as well like

Funny, as I was reading the last 6 pages I was thinking the same thing and how last season Arsenal had also lost a lot of that movement. Pires and Ljundberg have lost some of their pace and stamina and you can see it in the way the team now plays more of a shape than the season prior total football style. Maybe with the younger players coming through they may find it again but I think we will see a slight decline in their performance. As for formations and tactics, why does everyone seem to thing this is a new thing? The 1974 World Cup and The Netherlands showed the world what total football could do, how attractive it was with pass and move. Then they faced West Germany and the world saw how the beautiful game could be stopped. Rigid formations, hard tackling, "proper players" kicking the life out of the Dutch squad. The difference between a crap and a brilliant manager is the crap one can send a team out using their formation and stick with it through thick and thin and a brilliant manager can start the game with one shape, see it's not working and change it. The first uses formations, the other understands tactics. 22216[/snapback] That is right, and going slightly off tack back to the manager topic, thats why I think Wenger could be tempted to come to Newcastle. Only he knows how he really rates his younger players, but if he feels he needs to rebuild, then so do we and it would be a new challenge for someone like him, and someone with his standards and achievements wouldn't turn it down because it was too big for him like some others have done.

Can i ask why? 22140[/snapback] Are you that guy Robinson, that writes for the Sunday Sun? The reason is that your "article" is pathetically naive, and completely misses the point that Souness has been a disaster at every club he has been with, bar Rangers. Oh yeah, and your little pathetic dig at the fans, who personally I thought were way too generous on Sunday. Oh, and also your utterly stupid comparisons to Robson's team 3 years ago. If you can't tell the difference between now and then mate, I pity you. 22146[/snapback] there was no pathetic little dig at the fans. i just feel the "sack the board" chants are not going to help the team's morale. after all we as newcastle fans all want the best for the club. these revolts are not going to the make the situation anymore prettier than it already is oh and in case you missed it, we aren't Galatasary, Liverpool or Blackburn, we are Newcastle. What he did in the past doesnt always reflect what he does in the future 22150[/snapback] The bit in bold - probably the most idiotic thing I have heard anybody say, ever. I really hope you are not, and never become, a person that employs people for a job at any company. Also, I take it you did not go to the ManU match? There was no "sack the boarsd chants", just rounds of applause by people like you that accept mediocrity - or worse. There was a small demonstration after the West Ham game I believe (I wasn't there) - they are the real fans in my opinion - not people like you who write ridiculous "happy" articles. Your head is either in the sand or up your own arse, or both. People like you are going to get us relegated! 22164[/snapback] there has been talk of such chanting and it has also been discussed on the internet but i was wrong by what i said about the chanting should stop since it hasnt even begun. i dont accept mediocrity, i like all fans what newcastle to be the best and i think you have no right to say who is and isnt a real fan. of course i am a real fan or i wouldnt have bothered with signing up to this board or writing that article or making my own website. i would have just said of piss it, i dont care what happens to the team anyway . I just like to keep optismistic. it isnt idiotic, i'm not up my own arse and i in no way want the club to get relegated. no fan does. it isnt a ridiculas article it is my opinion. i dont call your opinion idiotic. i hope i do become a manager of a company so i can not hire people like you who cant except that other people have opinions too and they may not always be the same as yours but that is no reason to insult me and my abilities 22170[/snapback] A real fan who doesn't care what happens to the club. Congratulations on beating the award for the stupidest post on the board, which I thought I'd just witnessed about 5 minutes ago.

...But they should accept disapointed reactions after the game if their display deserves it. *ROmantic twaDDLE **note. this only refers to the team on the pitch. 22152[/snapback] totally agree. Bullshit of the 1st degree. And idiots who go on about "sooperfans".....it's just that some of us have a bit of common sense and the others don't have what they are born with.

Omar. I saw the way you goaded HTL into making true statements that forced the race card being played and HTL being banned from the old site. You aren't going to pull that stunt on me So. I'll just say once and once only. You talk the biggest load of utter shite that I have read so far on this forum. You know absolutely sweet fuck all about this football club. So don't bother answering my posts, with your replies, they are utter complete total crap. All of them. I will answer one question about Kluivert, because apart from convincing yourself I am HTL, this is what is bugging you isn't it, the fact that I said correctly your fat bone idle mate would be a waste of space. Yes, I thought he would be a waste of space. So fucking what ? It was based on how he played for Barcelona. When someone signs a player for a football club, they do it on the basis of judging how they have performed for their previous club, and so make a judgement before he has signed. I did that, as a fan. So, I'm not "abusing" you, I'm only disagreeing with you, and I have better things to do than argue the toss, which is proven, and sealed. You have your opinion, I have mine. End it. Give it a rest. He's gone and he was crap when he was here.

jonnyh, your avatar says everything about your intellect

Good post Seggie, thanks for the insight. You can see some of us think like you and some don't. I don't think Souness will last long though, possibly only Owen can save him, but although I would be obviously happy with that I would be worried about the financial road he has taken us down. Considering we would have spent 48m quid and still have to replace Shearer. I think after reading and getting involved in the debate about Hitzfeld, I would rather miss out on Owen, and get Hitzfeld for the better long term good of the club.

This comment, along with his track record, reflects exactly the type of manager a club like us needs to get in. It's what it's all about and seperates the men from the boys.

in the last 14 league games. We have won 1. We have scored 6 goals. We have failed to score in 9 games. Looks like the "northeast league" invented by the mackems when they are above us, may be a close run thing this year.

errr...if we had kept Bellamy, we probably wouldn't be 2nd bottom of the league... nor would we be in a position of spending millions of pounds to replace him [that we might not have] and could use the money to replace Alan Shearer instead.... 21943[/snapback] Theres also the fact that Bellamy and Owen would be our first choice strike partnership under any manger with half a brain, and i would hate to be a defender havign to cope with stopping both of them! 21961[/snapback] Absolutely. Just think, if we sign Owen for 18m quid, Souness will have been handed 48m quid in 12 months to strengthen a team that was 5th in the league. And not a penny of it has gone to replace Shearer, thanks to Souness. Looks like Shepherd will be told he's a greedy bastard for not splashing the cash again in a years time eh !!!

errr...if we had kept Bellamy, we probably wouldn't be 2nd bottom of the league... nor would we be in a position of spending millions of pounds to replace him [that we might not have] and could use the money to replace Alan Shearer instead.... 21943[/snapback] More than likely Bellamy would be injured for us as he is for Blackburn at the moment too. 21949[/snapback] or Dire who's now been put on 80 clicks a week due to Souness' wisdom

errr...if we had kept Bellamy, we probably wouldn't be 2nd bottom of the league... nor would we be in a position of spending millions of pounds to replace him [that we might not have] and could use the money to replace Alan Shearer instead....

i was listening to Graham Taylor recently on radio 5 [another manager like Keegan who's record at club level is ignored in favour of his England one by cockney hacks and pompous cockney arseholes in the press] saying that Arsenal would never win the European Cup despite having the ability, because they weren't prepared to play dirty and adapt to how the situation demands, which all true great teams have to do. Pretty accurate I think. Not knocking his [Wengers] record though, he's one of the best.

It's called shit man-management, and potential bankruptcy mate.

What puzzled us [me and my mate again] on Sunday, was Souness spending months telling us he didn't believe in wingers....then seeing Luque hogging the touchline quite a lot. Or maybe we shouldn't have been .... Emre and Parker are the best pairing we've had since Rob Lee left. Oh, For Gemmill etc etc I judged Rob Lee after one game, on the right midfield too, and in the old first division. I told a mackem lad at work he would play for England. He then went on to become the best English midfield player during the period 94-98. The complete modern midfield player. Only Roy Keane in Britain was probably better. The great thing about KK's side was they just played simple football, pass and move. To hell with stopping the other team playing first [souness' way], we played our own game and set out to dictate the game and keep the ball. [Gordon Lee's too, as I told you a few weeks ago] Keegan bought footballers, and they seemed able to adapt and switch around sometimes easily. Witness Man U on Sunday, O'Shea at right back, Rooney playing wide and deep, Ronaldo may be a diver, but he's a great player, at ease on both flanks, crossing with both feet on the run etc. Maybe it was the training under Keegan ie the 5 a sides, but they were totally at ease with passing and moving and playing the ball.

better watch it man, Gemmill will be after you, judging someone in one game like ....