trophyshy 8997 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Craig said: Fucking hell, TS Still no fucking trophy, I did get one of those tellies though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12321 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 23/05/2007 at 17:06, Gemmill said: Fucking hell, just when you thought there was no hope for this club, we sign Allardyce one week and then look like getting bought by a billionaire the next. Happy days are here again. Oh, my - getting excited about Allardyce and Ashley in the same post. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15508 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I think we’ll all be guilty of something like that deep in the murky archives of toontastic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15508 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Subtitle Update : 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12321 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 All joking aside, almost 15 years ago to the day we were almost unequivocally rejoicing at the replacement of both Roeder & Shepherd (both now sadly RIP) will Allardyce & Ashley. We really didn't understand what was about to hit us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12321 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom said: I think we’ll all be guilty of something like that deep in the murky archives of toontastic Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 8997 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I'm not ashamed of the post, the prose however is a tad regrettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 8997 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 was probably pissed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43811 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tom said: I think we’ll all be guilty of something like that deep in the murky archives of toontastic Speak for yourselves. (I didn't join till 2009). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39127 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 23/05/2007 at 15:28, ewerk said: I have to see I am relieved that it's an Englishman who wants to buy us. Never trust the Brits. Did my training teach me nothing? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 5277 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Not sure about on here but I can remember describing Allardyce as a "grown up professional" in his early days. I think Derby away changed everything for me and opened my eyes even more than the Portsmouth game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4928 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I never thought Allardyce was any good but I was sick of Shepherd recruiting shit managers (including Allardyce iirc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17219 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, NJS said: Not sure about on here but I can remember describing Allardyce as a "grown up professional" in his early days. I think Derby away changed everything for me and opened my eyes even more than the Portsmouth game. I think a lot of people had the wool pulled over their eyes with Allardyce due to a combo of him overachieving with Bolton and the press constantly telling everyone how great he was. Then again, not sure anyone could have predicted he’d react to having money for the first time ever by signing a finished Alan Smith for 7 million or whatever it was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43811 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: I think a lot of people had the wool pulled over their eyes with Allardyce due to a combo of him overachieving with Bolton and the press constantly telling everyone how great he was. Then again, not sure anyone could have predicted he’d react to having money for the first time ever by signing a finished Alan Smith for 7 million or whatever it was It was £6m and I was gobsmacked he'd paid it even at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17219 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: It was £6m and I was gobsmacked he'd paid it even at the time. £12 million for him and Barton and then god knows what Geremi was on a week. 3 players that their respective clubs couldn’t wait to get shot of 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42056 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 23 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: Priced a fair few fans out at the beginning of the ride and a Thatcher disciple, so thanks for getting involved and starting the turnaround but don't pretend you and shepherd never made a small fortune out of NUFC. I think I read that, when Ashley bought the club, the debt was more of less equal to the amount the Halls and Shepherd had paid themselves during their tenure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42056 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 So that’s before the actual money they made from the sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42056 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 17 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: £12 million for him and Barton and then god knows what Geremi was on a week. 3 players that their respective clubs couldn’t wait to get shot of Don’t forget Barton wouldn’t come at first because of a dispute between him and Man City. It was over a £1m loyalty bonus which they claimed he was no longer due. Can’t remember if we paid the extra via the transfer or a signing on bonus but NUFC definitely footed the bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12321 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I'm mixed about Barton. At the time I thought it was a decent purchase but then during the 08/09 relegation season I think he was somewhat of a liability - both on and off the field. However the promotion season and then subsequent time he was with us I think he flourished. He certainly paired up well in midfield with Tiote & Nolan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17219 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Barton had about 1 good season and goes on like he’s Mr Newcastle whenever he’s interviewed. Can’t be doing with it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12321 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 He was first class at shithousery / winding the Mackems up and he hated Ashley, making little effort to hide the fact. I seem to recall the consensus when he moved on was we were gutted. He was a far better acquisition than some of the other names that were spoken about - Alan Smith / Geremi / etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 26308 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Craig said: He was first class at shithousery / winding the Mackems up and he hated Ashley, making little effort to hide the fact. I seem to recall the consensus when he moved on was we were gutted. He was a far better acquisition than some of the other names that were spoken about - Alan Smith / Geremi / etc. smith was a parasite and geremi had forgotten how to play football by the time he rocked up at sjp - classic case of a final payday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42056 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Craig said: I'm mixed about Barton. At the time I thought it was a decent purchase but then during the 08/09 relegation season I think he was somewhat of a liability - both on and off the field. However the promotion season and then subsequent time he was with us I think he flourished. He certainly paired up well in midfield with Tiote & Nolan. He was injured for the majority of the promotion season. Danny Guthrie made something like 5x more league starts, to put it into perspective. He had a good season the following year on the right when Tiote played so well Nolan’s lack of mobility wasn’t even noticed in a 4-4-2 (Nolan played well but Tiote allowed him a degree of freedom). Considering the transfer fee, wages and considerable hassle, I don’t think one decent season in the PL represented good value for money re: Barton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42056 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: Barton had about 1 good season and goes on like he’s Mr Newcastle whenever he’s interviewed. Can’t be doing with it That and his attempted transformation to misunderstood intellectual 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15508 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Hahah remember him on Question Time with his librarian glasses on and the first thing he comes out with is a deeply mysoginistic simile about fat women. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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