ewerk 27247 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 PS if you don't think Mort needs to prove his competency then your standards are shocking. The fact that he's a 'top lawyer' doesn't necessarily qualify him to have conduct of the affairs of a football club. That's not to say he's not up to it, but you're basically saying that it necesarily follows that he does because he's a top lawyer. Completely nonsensical. I'm a junior lawyer and I don't feel qualified to be chairman of a lower league club. PS Gordon McKeag was a lawyer by trade. That is why I'm still surprised he hasn't bought in one or two senior football figures as advisors or non-executive board members. Ashley has Kelmsley. Harry Redknapp indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20267 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I'll have him. While I expected our managerial search to descend into farce following 'Arry's refusal, I'm surprised and pleased that some actual names are being bandied about and we might somehow land one of them. Shearer will have his time but I don't think it's now. He needs to get involved with Hartlepool/Darlo/Carlisle etc. and get some hands-on experience while still staying on the radar and then move up. don't see it happening tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big TRon 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I am probably in your camp with not really having a clue. It's more about not getting excited by certain names. I mentioned in another thread that the most important criterion for appointing a manager is that he matches with the club and its philosophy. And I think there are managers despite their superb CVs or playing careers could be failures. And to be a bit arrogant, I've quite often been right with my feeling about managers. I live close to Stuttgart (among the most fickle football fans you can think). When they replaced Trapattoni with Veh, a manager who had more or less only managed lower league teams and been unemployed for a couple of years, I was more or less on my own when I thought, he would be successful because he would really match with the club. A bit over a year later he had lead them to a league title and to a cup final. I was sure about Klinsmann being a success for Germany or most lately Schuster doing brilliant at Madrid (I think I even mentioned it on N-O). I've been in many cases (Gullit for example) though... I've have to say I am not really a big fan of French, Italian and Spanish football and it is probably because of this think that most players/managers who were brought up in this environment would struggle at Newcastle. Though I know too little about the likes of Pellegrini for example. Being more nordic orientated I think a manager like Morten Olsen for example who plays a decent football could do a job. Or maybe someone like Michael Laudrup who is now at Getafe (and who I think I mentioned here already a couple of years ago). Of course my favourite would be van Gaal, although I do believe he is far too happy at Alkmaar (and hates English football) to take the job. Another person I always mention who imho would fit in well at Newcastle is George Burley. Or maybe now the likes of Mowbray or Magilton (a bit of an Ipswich school of bringing up a certain kind of managers). Have to stop here, because I've actually some work to do, I'll try to think of more names more of my liking. There is some logic to that. You could imagine continental managers being far happier in London, and Deschamps turned down City because there were no French schools (none here either). French managers have done relatively well in England though, Houllier, Wenger and Tigana initially at least. Then you wopuldn't imagine Rafa would have fitted in with the culture of Liverpool either but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17423 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Just one thing Didnt He Buy Boumsong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Just one thing Didnt He Buy Boumsong Did a job in Serie B..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Just one thing Didnt He Buy Boumsong Yes, and won the league with him in his squad. The man is a miracle worker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17423 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Just one thing Didnt He Buy Boumsong Yes, and won the league with him in his squad. The man is a miracle worker! BSA Could win Seria B with BRAMBLE in the squad man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9045 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Just one thing Didnt He Buy Boumsong Did a job in Serie B..... ... just not really a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 8 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Didier Deschamps has not been approached for the Newcastle manager's job, but is interested in the position, according to his agent. The ex-Juventus boss and World Cup winner is the bookmakers' favourite to succeed Sam Allardyce. "At the moment we do not have contact with the club, nobody has called us," agent Jeannot Werth told BBC Sport. When asked whether the former France captain was interested in the job Werth replied: "Yes, why not?" Newcastle chairman Chris Mort has not ruled out appointing a foreign manager, although he insisted he must speak English. "This is a big job without having to operate through an interpreter," said Mort. Deschamps is a competent English speaker having spent a season with Chelsea in the 1999/2000 season. And the 39-year-old has experience in a high-pressure role, guiding Juventus back into Serie A after the Italian giants were relegated in the fallout of the match-fixing scandal. However, Deschamps resigned 10 months later and has since not been involved in a full-time football role. As a player he guided France to the World Cup in 1998 and to the European Championships two years later in 2000. He also won the Champions League and three Serie A titles with Juventus. Deschamps retired in 2001 but was soon appointed coach of Monaco, helping the French club to the Champions League final in 2004. From bbc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 "Trust me, Greg, when you start having little Fockers running around, you'll feel the need for this type of security" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20267 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Just one thing Didnt He Buy Boumsong Did a job in Serie B..... ... just not really a good one. eh? he took them up didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9045 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) Just one thing Didnt He Buy Boumsong Did a job in Serie B..... ... just not really a good one. eh? he took them up didn't he? I thought he meant Boumsong. Though, even if he meant Deschamps I don't think it was that much of a great job. After all he had a squad with the likes of Buffon, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Nedved etc. to his disposal who you think would play at the top in Seria A. Ten draws, four losses after all. The games I saw were mostly rarther poor. And from the Italians I know here in Germany, some of them Juve fans, they mostly weren't happy with him and quite relieved when he packed in after the season. Edited January 16, 2008 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Deschamps flying in for talks, breaking news on SSN. Currently running across the little yellow ticker on the bottom of the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Any news on how the talks went with Houllier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20267 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Any news on how the talks went with Houllier? dunno but apprantly he's told his bosses that he doesn't want to leave his current role at the french fa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2934 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) I thought he meant Boumsong. Though, even if he meant Deschamps I don't think it was that much of a great job. After all he had a squad with the likes of Buffon, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Nedved etc. to his disposal who you think would play at the top in Seria A. Ten draws, four losses after all. The games I saw were mostly rarther poor. And from the Italians I know here in Germany, some of them Juve fans, they mostly weren't happy with him and quite relieved when he packed in after the season. Wolfgang, forgetting Boumsong I think you're being a tad harsh there. Juventus last season only lost 3 league games, over turned a 15 point deficit to win the league by 6 points! Can you see any of the british managers we've been liked with doing that? And you name Del Piero and Nedved neither who are at the peak of their games. EDIT: Sorry my mistake 4 loses as you rightly pointed out. Edited January 16, 2008 by sammynb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 8 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I believe the ban got reduced from 15 points to about 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17423 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dennis Wise anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20267 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dennis Wise anyone nah; i'm alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9045 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) I thought he meant Boumsong. Though, even if he meant Deschamps I don't think it was that much of a great job. After all he had a squad with the likes of Buffon, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Nedved etc. to his disposal who you think would play at the top in Seria A. Ten draws, four losses after all. The games I saw were mostly rarther poor. And from the Italians I know here in Germany, some of them Juve fans, they mostly weren't happy with him and quite relieved when he packed in after the season. Wolfgang, forgetting Boumsong I think you're being a tad harsh there. Juventus last season only lost 3 league games, over turned a 15 point deficit to win the league by 6 points! Can you see any of the british managers we've been liked with doing that? And you name Del Piero and Nedved neither who are at the peak of their games. EDIT: Sorry my mistake 4 loses as you rightly pointed out. It was also reduced to a 9 point deficit, wasn't it [EDIT: khay beat me to it]? Del Piero was still their major player and was the best goalscorer in Seria B. I'd actually expect most members of this forum to win promotion with this kind of squad. Edited January 16, 2008 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I have to admit I know fuck all about how Boumsong did.... I just want Deschamps to come here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Toon 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 He made an awful mistake on his debut that led to a goal. That's all I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 According to Talksport: "Didier Drogba is the new favourite to replace Sam Allardyce" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big TRon 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 According to Talksport: "Didier Drogba is the new favourite to replace Sam Allardyce" He'd probably do a better job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Was the thread title babelfished?? Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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