ewerk 26447 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 And even if it makes no odds anyway... The reasonably priced option would be the way to go. I know it's a pointless debate. People pay £1000s on a pair of shoes for a name. Just bizarre to see normal working class men buy into that. Yeah but I got a free U2 album. I'm no apple fanboy, the iphone is the only piece of hardware of theirs that I have bought. I like that I can upgrade and have my new phone up and going in 20 minutes. The only problem I had with the phone was that the screen was too small and that has now been rectified which is the only reason I'm upgrading. I can sell my 5S for about £400 so it's only really costing be £300 for a larger, better phone with twice the memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 It's not premium though, if the alternatives have a higher spec. from a brand perspective it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm struggling to think of any. Someone might find something in the materialism thread. But I only tend to get a name brand for clothes or electricals in the sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 http://www.itproportal.com/2014/09/09/iphone-6-vs-lg-g3-full-specs-comparison/ You're missing the point. Some people do think the iPhone is the best hardware wise, they're idiots. I've had an android in the past, I didn't like using it compared to iOS. I had a PS4, which is technically more powerful than an Xbox one, but I didn't like using it, I switched and am happier with my product now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34615 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 from a brand perspective it is. Yeah but that's kind of the point he's making. You're paying more for less. You aren't getting premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm a total apple fanboy. I still use iTunes.. ...even though people slate it... I always have, it looks lovely and it works for me. The pain of changing to something else would be too much. But that's free. No chance would I put myself out of pocket to use it cos I know better is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You're missing the point. Some people do think the iPhone is the best hardware wise, they're idiots. I've had an android in the past, I didn't like using it compared to iOS. I had a PS4, which is technically more powerful than an Xbox one, but I didn't like using it, I switched and am happier with my product now. Link was just to answer the 1gb ram question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm a total apple fanboy. I still use iTunes.. ...even though people slate it... I always have, it looks lovely and it works for me. The pain of changing to something else would be too much. But that's free. No chance would I put myself out of pocket to use it cos I know better is available. Better is subjective, hardware wise you're right, clearly, but user experience and hardware specs often don't line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Link was just to answer the 1gb ram question. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26447 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Even once the specifications of the Apple A8 processor are made available, a comparison between it and the SoCs used by the Android flagships will be difficult to make, with dissimilar benchmarks to run due to the differing nature of the platform the SoCs are made for. Even if the Apple A8 reveals specifications that on paper are obviously lower than the SoCs used on Android flagships, real world performance is the only indication we can use - as Apple in the past has shown it is able to deliver top-end performance with meagre specifications due to its hardware-software optimisation. Apples and oranges, innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26447 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Link was just to answer the 1gb ram question. I've seen a few articles claiming that the 6 has 1gb but the 6 Plus has 2gb. We won't know for sure until they ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I've seen a few articles claiming that the 6 has 1gb but the 6 Plus has 2gb. We won't know for sure until they ship. Which would add credence to the fact that more RAM gives better performance even on an iPhone... So why pay a double premium for a 6 plus when 3gb comes standard on top end androids for less than an iPhone 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26447 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Because 3gb is overkill for the iphone? As the quote above states, apple's specs have been behind the market leaders for years but it hasn't affected the actual user experience due to how ios operates. I do realise that apple charge to pay a premium for their products, I just don't think that it's overly excessive with the iphone for the continuity it allows me to have. Edited September 12, 2014 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Which would add credence to the fact that more RAM gives better performance even on an iPhone... So why pay a double premium for a 6 plus when 3gb comes standard on top end androids for less than an iPhone 5. Does that even need saying? I could technically put 16 million terabytes of ram in my PC, it'd definitely be faster. I don't need that though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34615 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Andrew is not taking this challenge well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Does that even need saying? I could technically put 16 million terabytes of ram in my PC, it'd definitely be faster. I don't need that though 10 minutes ago you said it makes no odds for regular phone use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Aren't I? Its just an odd assertion, any computer with more RAM is technically better off, its not always necessary though and more RAM does not make one machine strictly better than another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 10 minutes ago you said it makes no odds for regular phone use I haven't contradicted that, an iPhone 6 with more RAM would be better than one with less, but its not necessarily worse than an android phone with more RAM because they have totally different architecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Aren't I? Its just an odd assertion, any computer with more RAM is technically better off, its not always necessary though and more RAM does not make one machine strictly better than another. But apple definitely say it does between their phones and charge a premium for the extra ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 But apple definitely say it does between their phones and charge a premium for the extra ram. because those phones have the same OS and architecture. with all else being equal more RAM is a better option. iPhones and Droids are not a case of all else being equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I haven't contradicted that, an iPhone 6 with more RAM would be better than one with less, but its not necessarily worse than an android phone with more RAM because they have totally different architecture. That's fair enough. But works both ways. So the premium brand thing isn't a claim you can prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You'd argue Apple isn't a premium brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I said it was in terms of brand. But someone moved it onto hardware/software. As well. Where it's not, no. Like beats by Dre, its a reasonably good product with a remarkable price hike attributable solely to the brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 So why can't I prove apple is a premium brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 All these phones have the same bits inside. Buying Apple just shows thickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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