THE CCC is going to be a walk in the park................

[Guest alex]

Think he has the chance to achieve real good memorable things here, particularly if the takeover goes through.

 

It all depends how strong the ties are. Le tiss at southhampton etc.

 

While I know it's always got to be the aim, I am already more excited about this season and "enjoying" the break from the pre decided prem. I have know idea whether we will get promoted or relegated and I like that.

Is he expected to wait for the takeover to go through like and put his career on hold?

 

point I'm making is that given he's a local lad he can do very well for himself staying here and all that goes with that. He could go to Everton and be calamity Taylor.

 

Would he enjoy himself being hero worshipped here and helping to get us promoted or maybe finding it tough going in an Everton side that probably is going to be overtaken by other clubs.

 

I think when your a local lad there has to be a massive reason to move on. I'm a homebird and would hate to have to uproot and move, especially for no more money.

I think he might struggle at Everton because he's just not that good. He'd do well for us in the Championship for us though, I'm pretty sure of that. The club's an absolute shambles though so it's probably a good career move from his point of view.

Edited August 16, 2009 by alex

[Andrew 4720]

You really need to stop starting threads

 

We've played two games FFS and at current are pretty close to our full strength, certainly in attack and defence, we have a tiny squad from which players are still leaving and look like getting next to no one in to replace them

 

you are a clown

[Norbert Colon 0]

Think he has the chance to achieve real good memorable things here, particularly if the takeover goes through.

 

It all depends how strong the ties are. Le tiss at southhampton etc.

 

While I know it's always got to be the aim, I am already more excited about this season and "enjoying" the break from the pre decided prem. I have know idea whether we will get promoted or relegated and I like that.

Is he expected to wait for the takeover to go through like and put his career on hold?

 

point I'm making is that given he's a local lad he can do very well for himself staying here and all that goes with that. He could go to Everton and be calamity Taylor.

 

Would he enjoy himself being hero worshipped here and helping to get us promoted or maybe finding it tough going in an Everton side that probably is going to be overtaken by other clubs.

 

I think when your a local lad there has to be a massive reason to move on. I'm a homebird and would hate to have to uproot and move, especially for no more money.

I think he might struggle at Everton because he's just not that good. He'd do well for us in the Championship for us though, I'm pretty sure of that. The club's an absolute shambles though so it's probably a good career move from his point of view.

 

I am not sure he would enjoy the fans leniency that he gets here anywhere else like

[tinofbeans 91]

I think the team is looking good at the minute because of the motivation / passion of Smith / barton. Lose either of them to injury or suspension and let butt sneak in and we will be back to toothless wonders.

 

Some of the one touch football ( jonas aside) was excellent yesterday and will only get better as confidence grows and runs are made in anticipation of the first time pass.

 

Keep these key players in the team and things could go really well. IMO this one touch play is where smith and bartons class ooze through.

I think Butt would be fine as long as he just has to sit in front of the back four, i.e. do what Smith is doing. After all, he looked a considerably better midfielder than Smith in the Premier League.

 

fading mobility counts against him. his passing selection also concerns me. not that smith is quick btw. just a better user of the ball perhaps. one and 2 touch seems to work for him if he has runners working for him.

I don't think he's any less mobile than Smith or any worse at using the ball. Better in fact. Smith's only looked like a midfielder who could do a job since we've gone down.

 

he has been injured for a while, but i get your point. maybe the point is about balance then, i.e. butt works better deeper and doesn't get forward perhaps as well. moot point really as smith has as you say found his level in the championship. neither are premier league players any more in my opinion...

[Guest alex]

I think the team is looking good at the minute because of the motivation / passion of Smith / barton. Lose either of them to injury or suspension and let butt sneak in and we will be back to toothless wonders.

 

Some of the one touch football ( jonas aside) was excellent yesterday and will only get better as confidence grows and runs are made in anticipation of the first time pass.

 

Keep these key players in the team and things could go really well. IMO this one touch play is where smith and bartons class ooze through.

I think Butt would be fine as long as he just has to sit in front of the back four, i.e. do what Smith is doing. After all, he looked a considerably better midfielder than Smith in the Premier League.

 

fading mobility counts against him. his passing selection also concerns me. not that smith is quick btw. just a better user of the ball perhaps. one and 2 touch seems to work for him if he has runners working for him.

I don't think he's any less mobile than Smith or any worse at using the ball. Better in fact. Smith's only looked like a midfielder who could do a job since we've gone down.

 

he has been injured for a while, but i get your point. maybe the point is about balance then, i.e. butt works better deeper and doesn't get forward perhaps as well. moot point really as smith has as you say found his level in the championship. neither are premier league players any more in my opinion...

Smith's captain anyway so he'll play. Basically what I was getting at though is it's a bit unfair to compare Smith in the Championship to Butt in the Premier League.

[Dr Gloom 21823]

all of the midfielders on show yesterday showed they can do a job at this level. i wouldn't get carried away though thinking we're going to walk the league going on yesterday's performance. there's still time for ashley to sell a few more players, we don't know what kind of replacements we'll get - if any- and the squad is still looking thin in terms of numbers.

[Guest alex]

We don't have the squad or the strikeforce for promotion.

we need a proper pacey finisher for this campaign and we don't have one, carroll and shola will not get goals every week just from punts being put upto them, especially when we pickup a few inevitable injuries.

 

 

walkover no chance, without serious squad bolstering and a couple of decent acquisitions were heading for midtable

That's not how we've played so far though.

[Papa Lazaru 0]

The championship requires hard work, fitness and willingness to fight as its 46 games and you'll know you've been in a battle, so its not easy in that sense, But some of the quality of footballers is very poor and if you have got some decent footballers and you fight for the right to play your football its not as hard as some people think.

 

When i thought it was going to be Shearer in as boss, he'd clear the shite out, bring in the right players and keep the likes of Beye and Bassong etc i was sure we'd get back up. As it is now we still have a really good chance, the problem is you can see severeal more key players being sold and suddenly it will become alot harder to get promoted, especially when our standard injury crisis hits. Then we'll find out if some of the youngsters are good enough or not, hopefully they are.

[S-I-S-S-O-K-O 0]

bartons class ooze through.

 

Was I watching a different game yesterday (and every other game he's played for us)?

Because I can't see it.

 

Neither can I.

[The Fish 10750]

bartons class ooze through.

 

Was I watching a different game yesterday (and every other game he's played for us)?

Because I can't see it.

 

Neither can I.

I think he had a quiet game yesterday but I'd put that down to bring out wide and Smith's card. Barton seeing Smith in a card seemed, to me, to instantly put his fire in his back pocket. If smith was clean and clear I reckon we'd have seen the tackles and snarling Joey we've come to expect.

 

Enrique was MoM for me. I know Shola got his hat trick but on overall play, Jose was a cut above the rest. Special mention to Reading though, after the first goal went in and their instant response was rebuffed they gave up the ghost. Their Captain was entirely at fault for their second. We beat a team with zero experience who had no answer to our steel in midfield and couldn't cope with our marauding fullbacks.

 

Mark my words. We'll not have it as easy in the future. Away to Sheffield will be a much trickier proposition, especially without Duff and Taylor. If Sol is coming our centre backs will be Slow and Nervy.

 

Happy with the result and the performance but don't for one

minute think that this is proof of any damned thing

[accadacca 0]

Whether or not Ashley sells before 31/8 or not, this season is going to be a piece of piss. I said this in earlier posts and got shot down - who's having the last laugh now eh ?

 

The CCC is very very poor with no one to match even the threadbare 16 man squad that is currently in operation.

 

 

The midfield is as solid as owt with Butt and Guthrie to cover Nolan/Barton/Smith/Spider.

 

The defence looks solid enough and the cover is there now with Simpson and even Geremi plus Kadar is ready to come in.

 

Upfront, Carroll looks the part, whilst CCC is Ameobi's level - he'll get 15-20 this season easy.

 

The club will be sold this week and changes will occur just in time so its onwards and upwards - nee bother.

 

 

How old are you?? 16??

 

This league is anything but a piece of piss.

 

 

 

48 mate and I have watched a lot of CCC games over the last 3 seasons to KNOW this division is CRAP - if the current squad can be more or less kept together, the title will be won with 6-10 games to spare.

 

And, I will be backing that up in the bookies.

[accadacca 0]

You really need to stop starting threads

 

We've played two games FFS and at current are pretty close to our full strength, certainly in attack and defence, we have a tiny squad from which players are still leaving and look like getting next to no one in to replace them

 

you are a clown

 

 

why, just because my pint is half full ? bet you are a real fun person to have at parties.

 

stop building the CCC as some really difficult league where cloggers reign supreme.

 

the fact is that most of the 24 teams have very little quality - anyone that shows promise is whisked away in to the premier.

 

just name me 6 teams that will finish above us and we'll see who the clown is.

[The Fish 10750]

thing is, it's impossible to gauge what final positions will be. Boro' have done all right in their first couple of games and are highly unlikely to lose any of their key players before the window. I think the problem, accadacca, is that we don't know which side will turn out on Wednesday, let alone three months down the line. So for you to say we'll walk this league is based on nothing but gut feeling. And as we all know, guts are full of shit.

[sweetleftpeg 0]

It's a weird division like. I thougt West Brow were ordinary last week and there for the taking and Reading were just garbage. Still early days like and if we lost Taylor tomorrow then we become more vunerable. I think we have a better starting 11 than many of the teams in the league, but if we start selling them (likely), don't bring any one in (very likely) and start to get injuries and suspensions (this is NUFC - very very likely) then we'll start to struggle. Personally, I havn't got a fucking clue how good this league is, so I'm just trying to enjoy the win.

[Deano 0]

This league is anything BUT a walk in the park. Its going to be a long gruelling campaign with highs and lows, but that being said i am confident we will bounce back up but it wont be easy. Just worry about hughton being able (or not) to motivate some of the lads on a cold away day to blackpool.

[accadacca 0]

thing is, it's impossible to gauge what final positions will be. Boro' have done all right in their first couple of games and are highly unlikely to lose any of their key players before the window. I think the problem, accadacca, is that we don't know which side will turn out on Wednesday, let alone three months down the line. So for you to say we'll walk this league is based on nothing but gut feeling. And as we all know, guts are full of shit.

 

 

 

fair point mate, but everyone is assuming that another 5/6 players will be moving out just because the papers say so.

 

the post speculating about Taylor being on his way just because he looked sad after the final whistle - pure conjecture.

 

IF 5/6 more do go and are only replaced by young uns on loan deals etc, then my optimism might be dampened, but until it happens, what is wrong with being upbeat ??

 

most teams in this division are very average/mediocre - who would disagree with this ?

 

what makes it a tough league is the 46 league games plus a few cup games - it is demanding both physically and mentally - it is not tough because of strong teams with class players ffs !!

 

the way things stand at present, Colocinni, Xisco and Spider would not really be missed - IF the likes of Taylor, Krul and Carroll go, that would be far more worrying.

 

yes, and Reading were shite, but they got a play off place last season which tells it's own story.

[accadacca 0]

It's a weird division like. I thougt West Brow were ordinary last week and there for the taking and Reading were just garbage. Still early days like and if we lost Taylor tomorrow then we become more vunerable. I think we have a better starting 11 than many of the teams in the league, but if we start selling them (likely), don't bring any one in (very likely) and start to get injuries and suspensions (this is NUFC - very very likely) then we'll start to struggle. Personally, I havn't got a fucking clue how good this league is, so I'm just trying to enjoy the win.

 

 

trust me, its aload of shit.

[Dr Gloom 21823]

It's a weird division like. I thougt West Brow were ordinary last week and there for the taking and Reading were just garbage. Still early days like and if we lost Taylor tomorrow then we become more vunerable. I think we have a better starting 11 than many of the teams in the league, but if we start selling them (likely), don't bring any one in (very likely) and start to get injuries and suspensions (this is NUFC - very very likely) then we'll start to struggle. Personally, I havn't got a fucking clue how good this league is, so I'm just trying to enjoy the win.

 

sums up how i feel. we're pretty well placed to mount a promotion challenge as things stand but a lot can still change between now and when the transfer window shuts. nightmare scenario come sep 1st is ashley still in charge, half our first team squad sold and no decent replacements brought in.

[Geordiejihad 0]

Last time i walked in the park ....i got mugged : )

[acrossthepond 872]

Last time i walked in the park ....i got mugged : )

 

And I see us getting mugged quite a few times before this season's over. OP is living in cloud cuckoo land.

[Guest alex]

We don't have the squad or the strikeforce for promotion.

we need a proper pacey finisher for this campaign and we don't have one, carroll and shola will not get goals every week just from punts being put upto them, especially when we pickup a few inevitable injuries.

 

 

walkover no chance, without serious squad bolstering and a couple of decent acquisitions were heading for midtable

That's not how we've played so far though.

 

maybe should have said "carroll and shola will not get goals every week"

i'd say shola used up a lot of his quota for the season yesterday lol

So what you were saying is the strikers won't score every week?

[Guest Hova]

Fucking prat.

[Tom 14011]

What a mental knee jerk!

[Guest alex]

I see it more as a wank in the bath.

[Kitman 2204]

nightmare scenario come sep 1st is ashley still in charge, half our first team squad sold and no decent replacements brought in.

 

I would say the nightmare scenario is looking more likely every day. Add to that some no mark manager in charge, or Hughton still caretaking. I don't share the OP's wild optimism on the back of one win frankly. Doesn't matter how poor the other runners are in a race if you're hobbled.