Meenzer 14090 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 ...because the Lib Dems almost always vote with Labour, and in my years in Parliament I can't remember a single moment when they opposed a Labour measure to expand state spending or state control. Just don't mention the war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barrack Road Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 They are a bunch of euro-loving road-hump fetishists who are attempting like some defective vacuum cleaner to suck and blow at the same time; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Only Boris could think gloating over a £1000 bet would win voters during the worst recession since his party were in power. The biggest problem they have is that Cameroon doesn't look like a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) It was one of those times when there seems to be only one solution to the problems of British politics, and that is to dissolve the electorate and summon a new one. Not too sure about the tactic of calling the electorate the 'problem', or advocating a cull either. Watching that debate, I had the clear impression that Cameron aced every question. His answers were clear, concise and knowledgeable, and in my focus group of 12- to 16-year-olds he was the overwhelming winner. "David Cameron knows more than the others," said the 12-year-old, "and everything he says is true!" Unsurprising to read Boris thinks like a 12 year old. Edited April 19, 2010 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17848 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Watching that debate, I had the clear impression that Cameron aced every question. His answers were clear, concise and knowledgeable, and in my focus group of 12- to 16-year-olds he was the overwhelming winner. "David Cameron knows more than the others," said the 12-year-old, "and everything he says is true!" Oh dear. [\Stevie] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Reading through that in its entirety just makes me think 'what a cunt' tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem is this new style of "debate". Its more like Britains got talent than question time and all about soundbites rather than policy. The clueless public will have Clegg as their favourite and be wanting him to win the "grand final". Boris is great btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17848 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem is this new style of "debate". Its more like Britains got talent than question time and all about soundbites rather than policy. The clueless public will have Clegg as their favourite and be wanting him to win the "grand final". Boris is great btw It was Cameron who originally wanted the Live debates though wasn't it? Bet he regrets it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem is this new style of "debate". Its more like Britains got talent than question time and all about soundbites rather than policy. The clueless public will have Clegg as their favourite and be wanting him to win the "grand final". Boris is great btw Seetihing that the Tories aren't cruising it I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3986 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem with the debates is the restrictive rules - not sure if there's a way around it that would generate a proper argument though - maybe they should get them all pissed on Stella and let them go at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem is this new style of "debate". Its more like Britains got talent than question time and all about soundbites rather than policy. The clueless public will have Clegg as their favourite and be wanting him to win the "grand final". Boris is great btw It was Cameron who originally wanted the Live debates though wasn't it? Bet he regrets it now. He wasn't as keen as Christmas "Cant wait for the leaders debate" Tree though.... http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry730894 Textbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14090 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Its .. all about soundbites rather than policy.... Boris is great btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6308 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Murdoch is evil basically. For once Parky I agree. Looks like it might go tits up for the tories still, they're clearly rattled. Aye, they're shitting it over the Lib Dems atm. Using the election seat calculator on the BBC, Labour are now projected as the largest party: Tories: 239 Labour: 291 Lib Dems: 91 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ele...010/8609989.stm Following today's YouGov, it's right down the middle I'm presuming that grey dot in Central London is a BNP seat too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14090 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I'm presuming that grey dot in Central London is a BNP seat too! Respect, I think? I know it's a simplified map but I think Barking (the BNP target) would still be further out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The BNp are throwing everything at Barking, I think it will be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14090 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The BNp are throwing everything at Barking, I think it will be close. All else being equal, Labour should hold it comfortably enough. Although I suppose there's a rather ironic possibility that the Lib Dems taking votes from Labour could let the BNP in. I think the locals are clued up enough to know how best to vote tactically though. Even if they don't get an MP though, I reckon the BNP will have some pretty big local council scalps to boast about come May 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem is this new style of "debate". Its more like Britains got talent than question time and all about soundbites rather than policy. The clueless public will have Clegg as their favourite and be wanting him to win the "grand final". Boris is great btw Seetihing that the Tories aren't cruising it I take it. Nah not really. I know theres some major lefties on here, but the days of it really making a massive difference who gets in are long gone. Even more so with the state of the economy. If I was the next Blair I would be hoping Brown lost, the tories got 5 years of only being able to make cuts etc and then hoping Labour would romp back in. I do like those two politicians of question time this week, one was a lib dem and the other a tory, both red heads? and ugly but seemed quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem with the debates is the restrictive rules - not sure if there's a way around it that would generate a proper argument though - maybe they should get them all pissed on Stella and let them go at it. Forget debates. Cameron question time with a labour audience and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The BNp are throwing everything at Barking, I think it will be close. All else being equal, Labour should hold it comfortably enough. Although I suppose there's a rather ironic possibility that the Lib Dems taking votes from Labour could let the BNP in. I think the locals are clued up enough to know how best to vote tactically though. Even if they don't get an MP though, I reckon the BNP will have some pretty big local council scalps to boast about come May 7th. They are leading the local council in B&D iirc and have kicked some arse on housing issues. Think it will be closer than peeps think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17848 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem with the debates is the restrictive rules - not sure if there's a way around it that would generate a proper argument though - maybe they should get them all pissed on Stella and let them go at it. Forget debates. Cameron question time with a labour audience and vice versa. Aye, that would solve a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted April 19, 2010 Author Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem is this new style of "debate". Its more like Britains got talent than question time and all about soundbites rather than policy. The clueless public will have Clegg as their favourite and be wanting him to win the "grand final". Boris is great btw It was Cameron who originally wanted the Live debates though wasn't it? Bet he regrets it now. He wasn't as keen as Christmas "Cant wait for the leaders debate" Tree though.... http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry730894 Textbook. Nowt wrong with that I like political fights and Clegg won the event simples. Its not my fault Cameron is a smarm meister and tried to play it to serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. © CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Slightly off-topic but Meenzer - does your dad have a Santa Claus beard? If so then I keep seeing him on the local news with regards to various lercal political habdabs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The problem is this new style of "debate". Its more like Britains got talent than question time and all about soundbites rather than policy. The clueless public will have Clegg as their favourite and be wanting him to win the "grand final". Boris is great btw It was Cameron who originally wanted the Live debates though wasn't it? Bet he regrets it now. He wasn't as keen as Christmas "Cant wait for the leaders debate" Tree though.... http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...mp;#entry730894 Textbook. Nowt wrong with that I like political fights and Clegg won the event simples. Its not my fault Cameron is a smarm meister and tried to play it to serious. It's pretty funny you were so excited about the debates last week, but now you think they're everything that's wrong with politics. If you think Cameron's a smarm meister, why you gonna vote for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14090 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Slightly off-topic but Meenzer - does your dad have a Santa Claus beard? If so then I keep seeing him on the local news with regards to various lercal political habdabs! That'll likely be him, aye. Or at least he'd developed one when I last saw him at Christmas (appropriately enough). I think it's a very Lib Dem way of having a second mid-life crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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