Kitman 2188 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I don't understand the mentality of the Mackems regarding the Bent deal. £18 million is a good deal but without a ready made replacement waiting in the wings you will struggle. Money in the bank doesn't score goals. I reckon he demanded to go to Villa and made it clear he would be very unhappy to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 According to Caulkin the Bent deal is being paid for in installments and they're worse off in the short term as the first fee doesn't cover the amount still owed to Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 They've still got a shit load of money like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys1879SAFC 0 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Unlike the majority of Mackems I have grown to think that this is a good deal for the football club. There's still a lot of bitterness there but whats the point in having an unhappy footballer on your hands? In fact he hasn't looked his usual self since as early as November. I remember against Bolton at the SoL the week before Xmas, we won 1-0 and usually when we score he's the first on the scene celebrating, Welbeck scored but Bent instead of congratulating his teammates just shrugged his shoulders and walked back to the half-way line. What knarks me is that Sunday was our biggest game of the season so far and he was already thinking about handing in a transfer request the selfish bastard. £24M is the same as Man City paid for Tevez however so at least that has healed the pain somewhat. Edited January 20, 2011 by Rhys1879SAFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The should stop talking about this £24m figure, no one apart from the 2 clubs know the stipulations it could be like £2m after 100 league appearances etc in which case they wont see that money for a long long time. Villa have obviously gambled knowing they need a goal scorer that he's going to push them up a few places meaning more money in and possibly avoiding relegation, if he starts banging them in and Villa finish mid table I guess it's been a good deal for them. If what Caulkin's said is true it's a wank deal for the Mackems, would be comical if they ended up with Fuller and sewper Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Welbeck out for 8 weeks as well. Don't fancy Gyan to score the goals alone and it's not like the midfield has been helping out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Welbeck out for 8 weeks as well. Don't fancy Gyan to score the goals alone and it's not like the midfield has been helping out! Ouch, 11 days left to fill a tough position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 £3m bid for Fuller accepted according to the Beeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 £3m bid for Fuller accepted according to the Beeb. Injury prone impact sub? Go on then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackbleep 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 £3m bid for Fuller accepted according to the Beeb. Injury prone impact sub? Go on then Ahh but they've got £15m in the bank remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Unlike the majority of Mackems I have grown to think that this is a good deal for the football club. There's still a lot of bitterness there but whats the point in having an unhappy footballer on your hands? In fact he hasn't looked his usual self since as early as November. I remember against Bolton at the SoL the week before Xmas, we won 1-0 and usually when we score he's the first on the scene celebrating, Welbeck scored but Bent instead of congratulating his teammates just shrugged his shoulders and walked back to the half-way line. What knarks me is that Sunday was our biggest game of the season so far and he was already thinking about handing in a transfer request the selfish bastard. £24M is the same as Man City paid for Tevez however so at least that has healed the pain somewhat. I can never agree with this. You should never sell your best players, and if they want to go from you when you should be big enough to keep them and attract others, you have to ask yourself the reason why. If its geographical, or there are personal problems, OK. But if he considers Villa to be a superior club, the mackems have every right to ask themselves why ? Sorry mate, but every time I see posts like this on any NUFC message board it makes me cringe, it is nothing other than 3rd rate defeatist mentality, and the mackems are certainly a bigger club with bigger support than the likes of Villa too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 £3m bid for Fuller accepted according to the Beeb. Injury prone impact sub? Go on then Ahh but they've got £15m in the bank remember the whizz kids on NO would be creaming their knicks if this was us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 £3m bid for Fuller accepted according to the Beeb. the beeb It is understood that the much-travelled former Crystal Palace, Preston North End and Portsmouth man would not pass a medical on Wearside, but Sunderland boss Steve Bruce is prepared to make a concession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackbleep 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 £3m bid for Fuller accepted according to the Beeb. the beeb It is understood that the much-travelled former Crystal Palace, Preston North End and Portsmouth man would not pass a medical on Wearside, but Sunderland boss Steve Bruce is prepared to make a concession. Fuck me Bagpuss must be desperate to appease fans of the unwashed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I quite like Fuller, especially during his PNE days(seemed to score every week), but £3m is a LOT for a crocked striker, even if it is just to tide them over to the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I quite like Fuller, especially during his PNE days(seemed to score every week), but £3m is a LOT for a crocked striker, even if it is just to tide them over to the summer. So do I, but the bigger issue for them is why Bent wanted to leave for a club like Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Apparently I'nsomnia is going to cost them £12m That plus the £50/60k is wages he'll be after! Fuller is gash btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Fuller's ok, but buying a player who can't pass a medical is a bit desperate. That sort of money for N'Zogbia is crazy too, and I've got a bit of time for him (as a player anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I heard Jamie Redknapp was saying Spurs received 6m from the Bent transfer. My assumption is the sell on clause was 25% of 24m(despite there being add ons and so on?) as 33% of 18m just wouldnt sound right. So the deal doesn't look as good for Brucie if that's the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Apparently due to the money to Spurs all the money being paid to Sunderland is in instalments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys1879SAFC 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Unlike the majority of Mackems I have grown to think that this is a good deal for the football club. There's still a lot of bitterness there but whats the point in having an unhappy footballer on your hands? In fact he hasn't looked his usual self since as early as November. I remember against Bolton at the SoL the week before Xmas, we won 1-0 and usually when we score he's the first on the scene celebrating, Welbeck scored but Bent instead of congratulating his teammates just shrugged his shoulders and walked back to the half-way line. What knarks me is that Sunday was our biggest game of the season so far and he was already thinking about handing in a transfer request the selfish bastard. £24M is the same as Man City paid for Tevez however so at least that has healed the pain somewhat. I can never agree with this. You should never sell your best players, and if they want to go from you when you should be big enough to keep them and attract others, you have to ask yourself the reason why. If its geographical, or there are personal problems, OK. But if he considers Villa to be a superior club, the mackems have every right to ask themselves why ? Sorry mate, but every time I see posts like this on any NUFC message board it makes me cringe, it is nothing other than 3rd rate defeatist mentality, and the mackems are certainly a bigger club with bigger support than the likes of Villa too. I don't think we are, certainly historically they have been more successful, winning a European Cup and 7 league titles, they've also consistently played their football in England's top flight since the Premier League came into being, something we haven't been able to do. I do think we have a bigger fanbase however, Villa couldn't even sell their allocation of 1500 for the Birmingham derby on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Villa got less than 15'000 the season after they won the European cup man, Support has never been their strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys1879SAFC 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) That is bad but attendances in the 80's were very poor at a lot of clubs, including the two big north east clubs. Edited January 21, 2011 by Rhys1879SAFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Unlike the majority of Mackems I have grown to think that this is a good deal for the football club. There's still a lot of bitterness there but whats the point in having an unhappy footballer on your hands? In fact he hasn't looked his usual self since as early as November. I remember against Bolton at the SoL the week before Xmas, we won 1-0 and usually when we score he's the first on the scene celebrating, Welbeck scored but Bent instead of congratulating his teammates just shrugged his shoulders and walked back to the half-way line. What knarks me is that Sunday was our biggest game of the season so far and he was already thinking about handing in a transfer request the selfish bastard. £24M is the same as Man City paid for Tevez however so at least that has healed the pain somewhat. I can never agree with this. You should never sell your best players, and if they want to go from you when you should be big enough to keep them and attract others, you have to ask yourself the reason why. If its geographical, or there are personal problems, OK. But if he considers Villa to be a superior club, the mackems have every right to ask themselves why ? Sorry mate, but every time I see posts like this on any NUFC message board it makes me cringe, it is nothing other than 3rd rate defeatist mentality, and the mackems are certainly a bigger club with bigger support than the likes of Villa too. I don't think we are, certainly historically they have been more successful, winning a European Cup and 7 league titles, they've also consistently played their football in England's top flight since the Premier League came into being, something we haven't been able to do. I do think we have a bigger fanbase however, Villa couldn't even sell their allocation of 1500 for the Birmingham derby on Sunday. Well, talk down your club if you like. I'm being honest with you here, you are one of the biggest clubs in the country, behind us mind, but bigger than Villa. Bob Murray ran your club disgracefully for 20 years man, just like the wankers we had pre-1992 and the current tosspot is running it down too, despite our decent enough first season back which is all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Fuller's ok, but buying a player who can't pass a medical is a bit desperate. That sort of money for N'Zogbia is crazy too, and I've got a bit of time for him (as a player anyway). Why ? He's well worth that fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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