Gemmill 63312 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 She's fucking horrendous. The worst thing is that other journalists leap to her defence and it gets twisted as misogyny. No mate, she's just an awful dyed in the wool Tory who acts as a mouthpiece for No 10. The only reason she's not officially on his staff is cos she gets paid more at the BBC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42160 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Pretty much, aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Alex said: For every pound the UK put into the EU, he got £1.50 of that. It was on Facebook Great source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39290 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 What's Farage's angle then? He sounds more confused than Bruce Jenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63312 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 He's just realised he's about to become completely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: He's just realised he's about to become completely irrelevant. I suppose that was the ironic thing about him, he campaigned against Europe but he rinsed that gravy train for all it's worth for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27805 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 So is the MSM going to point out what a hypocrite and outright liar Johnson is? Thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 11896 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Renton said: So is the MSM going to point out what a hypocrite and outright liar Johnson is? Thought not. It just goes to show how self serving these politicians are when it comes to morals and making their lives easier, they'll literally say anything to further their own cause. Edited October 17, 2019 by Anorthernsoul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42160 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Aye, you have to wonder how fucking thick you’d have to be to be taken in by his and Farage’s patter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63312 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Raab is actually using the phrase "cracking deal" in interviews this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27805 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hmmm, Raab on the BBC saying what a great deal this is for NI because they will have frictionless access to the EU. If that's good for NI, why is it not good for the rUK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 14520 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Renton said: Some MPs, like Caroline Flint for instance, seem to be only bothered about their job. Couldn't give a shit about telling hard truths and saving their constituents jobs. That is all any of them are bothered about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28572 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Feeling more pessimistic now than at any point since 2016 about chances of hard Brexit being avoided (and make no mistake, the only version of Brexit harder Johnson's proposed 'deal' is no deal). My prediction: even if the DUP hold firm (Ian Paisley will surely raise from the dead if they fold), there will be sufficient cowardice amongst Tory 'rebels' and Labour Brexiteers (Hoey. Kinnock, Flint et al) to squeak this over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27805 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Feeling more pessimistic now than at any point since 2016 about chances of hard Brexit being avoided (and make no mistake, the only version of Brexit harder Johnson's proposed 'deal' is no deal). My prediction: even if the DUP hold firm (Ian Paisley will surely raise from the dead if they fold), there will be sufficient cowardice amongst Tory 'rebels' and Labour Brexiteers (Hoey. Kinnock, Flint et al) to squeak this over the line. Most commentators have it failing by 3 or 4 votes. I can't help thinking Johnson's appalling performance a few weeks back (humbug gate) might tip the balance against him. Would be poetic justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28572 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just need the staff of Nissan to do something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42160 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 You obviously don’t know many of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Why is Labour not threatening to remove the whip from any Labour MPs who vote for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42160 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Because they’re as spineless as they are clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 5305 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 A couple of NEC members have said any deal backers will be replaced as candidates for the GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, NJS said: A couple of NEC members have said any deal backers will be replaced as candidates for the GE. Well they fucking should be, but why leave it to the exec committee? On the deal itself, the entire ERG will vote for it - looking at what is being said now I'm basically certain of that. The Tory rebels will most likely all go for it with perhaps 3 exceptions. So he only needs about 10 Labour rebels. It'll be a dark day in they vote it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Ant said: i'm so far passed giving a fuck now, from a purely short term personal view any sort of extension or this deal going through would immediately make my life a ton less stressful I think this is where a lot of people are coming from now - I saw the guardian reference a poll that said 54% of people now back a deal over any other alternative. I doubt they know what's in the deal, what it means for them, or anything other than the fact that it "ends Brexit" - but that's where a lot of people are. I think on balance that this would chance over the course of a constructive referendum campaign, but it's still a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39290 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 As a Labour MP, whether you're for or against Brexit a defeat for Johnson tomorrow would be massively electorally damaging for him. To back his deal is highly likely to mean another five years of Tory rule. It's completely unconscionable to do that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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