PaddockLad 22508 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Kuennsberg in No. 10 for a hastily arranged interview with Johnson apparently. Election time? Think she's shagged him at some point?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63249 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 There's definitely something not right about their relationship. And she certainly pays for all this access with her integrity..... But whether she'd actually let him on.... Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8366 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 If Johnson is about to go for an election then the game, amazingly, is still on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8366 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 God I hope this comes back to bite him. Cummings has just put 95% pure Brexit on the table as part of an all or nothing gamble to get 100% pure Brexit. It's completely irrational from his perspective. Even from Johnson's unless he thinks Corbyn will vote it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63249 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8366 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Wait wait wait. His deal is still there. It almost looks like he's saying he'll grant the timetable extension for the deal to be read if there is an agreement about having a general election afterwards. So he'll continue with the deal, potentially achieve Brexit, and then crash into a general election having terrified the Labour rebels into voting for it. This is actually, depressingly, a smart move. He gets everything he's ever wanted, unless Labour can absolutely trash the deal in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63249 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Wait wait wait. His deal is still there. It almost looks like he's saying he'll grant the timetable extension for the deal to be read if there is an agreement about having a general election afterwards. So he'll continue with the deal, potentially achieve Brexit, and then crash into a general election having terrified the Labour rebels into voting for it. This is actually, depressingly, a smart move. He gets everything he's ever wanted, unless Labour can absolutely trash the deal in the meantime. There's no way his deal is getting passed before the election. All the opposition parties need to do is spend the week picking it apart and spelling out what a fucking shitshow it is. There's still not enough time to pass the deal before the election, this is just a Cabinet that couldn't come to agreement trying to get the best of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8366 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: There's no way his deal is getting passed before the election. All the opposition parties need to do is spend the week picking it apart and spelling out what a fucking shitshow it is. There's still not enough time to pass the deal before the election, this is just a Cabinet that couldn't come to agreement trying to get the best of both worlds. Everything that stops that deal going through is going to be held up as a reason to vote for Johnson. As far as plays go, it's a good one. We need Labour and the Remain camp to be shit hot on this now. Terrifyingly. But either way, they should go for it. Meet him head on, for death and glory Edited October 24, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39245 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 As long as we’re still in the EU then the Tories lose votes to the Brexit party. It’s a fact that isn’t up for debate. The only way they minimise it is by pledging no deal which they can’t do now that he has his great new deal. An election now is not good for Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Everything that stops that deal going through is going to be held up as a reason to vote for Johnson. As far as plays go, it's a good one. We need Labour and the Remain camp to be shit hot on this now. Terrifyingly. But either way, they should go for it. Meet him head on, for death and glory Corbyn and shit hot do not belong in the same sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8366 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, ewerk said: As long as we’re still in the EU then the Tories lose votes to the Brexit party. It’s a fact that isn’t up for debate. The only way they minimise it is by pledging no deal which they can’t do now that he has his great new deal. An election now is not good for Johnson. And yet he's backing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27791 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Iirc Gina Miller said she would release a tactical voting app, to maximise the damage to the tories. It wouldn't need an opposition pact, although this might happen in some seats (Johnson is very vulnerable). Could this make a difference? It's not a strategy I think makes sense for the tories,given their only competitor is the BP on a no deal ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63249 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Twitter reckons the opposition parties will be telling Johnson that his deal is off the table if he wants an election. Pull the bill and you can have your election. Which sounds reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39245 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Rayvin said: And yet he's backing it. Aye because he hasn’t put a foot wrong so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 11895 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Holy shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39245 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I’d like to see the raw data on that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8366 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I find it fairly believable. For Remainers, this is about freedoms. For Brexiteers, it's about being right. Both deeply held views, with the latter being emotionally immature in the extreme ofc, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22508 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 If Johnson gets the WAB through in any form he’ll piss a mid December election. Fuck that. Tell him to go fuck himself Jezza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, ewerk said: There are many things in this life that you don't understand, Phil. Indeed. You can add Dianna Abbott having a front bench role to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39245 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Plus you knowing what her name is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27791 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Question time from South Shields. The usual gammons of course but Jesus Christ, these are full blown gammontards. Never have I seen such a bunch of weird looking inarticulate freaks slathering meaningless sound bites. An absolute embarassment to the North East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Renton said: Never have I seen such a bunch of weird looking inarticulate freaks slathering meaningless sound bites. Sounds like a carbon copy of Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27791 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Look at this freak, a mature student at Sunderland university. Has CT gone back to school? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42155 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Phil said: I've never understood the remain stance of a second referendum. There is no way the leave campaign will accept a second referendum that is anything other than leave no deal or leave with this deal. What is the colour of the sky on your planet? Think about it. Leave won, the follow up question can only be "how". To suggest you can overturning the original vote with a narrower leave option vs remain is laughable. The outcome would be ignored and the Brexit party would run in the next GE picking up a lot of protest votes. Wake up and smell the coffee. You lost accept it. If you truly want to stop no deal, stop blocking every option on the table. The next election will be a hung parliament and the king makers will be either the Lib Dems or the Brexit party. Remain are playing a very risky game. Foolish if you ask me when you factor in they are banking on Corbyn. The only thing worse than a Tory cunt is a thick Tory cunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39245 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Well this all seems perfectly normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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